Stealth Cabinet Blueprint

Shackleford.R

Shackleford.R

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Shackleford.R said:
so the temps nearly cooked my seedling.. working on a fan mod today.. will post pics/guide later today (hopefully!!!)

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Shack
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as it turn out.. easier said than done.. i was hoping to mount the fans flush in the cabinet surface.

the plan is two fans on the light shelf (one on either end, outside the power strips) since the cabinet is open open space underneath, two in the floor. in my head i pictured PC fans coming apart in two pieces. a simple cut from a hole saw and snap one piece in from the top and slide the other piece in from the bottom.. this is not the case. everything i've found is they are solid square construction. so i guess mounting entails a hole saw (of equal diameter to the fan itself) and attaching flush to the upper side of the light shelf (to pull up and out of the grow space) and for the floor similar holes cut, but mounting on the underside to keep the floor clear of the fans. possibly both fan applications, but definitely floor adding in a metal grill so that nothing falls into the floor fans. the light shelf fans i don't think need the grills, odds of something getting sucked up are not as likely.

question now for you RIU..

1- Should my fans match? meaning if I mount TWO in the light shelf do I want TWO in the floor? or would I want one in the floor, two in the shelf or vice versa?? what i'm trying to discern is whether or not i want my fans to replace air as quickly as it is taken away.

EXAMPLE: Fans in shelf displace at a rate of 80 CFM the floor fans are replacing at 80 CFM, is that efficient? overly efficient? under efficient?

Looking for pros on this one, just hope one checks out the thread!

:peace:
Shack
 
dingbang

dingbang

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Shackleford.R said:
as it turn out.. easier said than done.. i was hoping to mount the fans flush in the cabinet surface.

the plan is two fans on the light shelf (one on either end, outside the power strips) since the cabinet is open open space underneath, two in the floor. in my head i pictured PC fans coming apart in two pieces. a simple cut from a hole saw and snap one piece in from the top and slide the other piece in from the bottom.. this is not the case. everything i've found is they are solid square construction. so i guess mounting entails a hole saw (of equal diameter to the fan itself) and attaching flush to the upper side of the light shelf (to pull up and out of the grow space) and for the floor similar holes cut, but mounting on the underside to keep the floor clear of the fans. possibly both fan applications, but definitely floor adding in a metal grill so that nothing falls into the floor fans. the light shelf fans i don't think need the grills, odds of something getting sucked up are not as likely.

question now for you RIU..

1- Should my fans match? meaning if I mount TWO in the light shelf do I want TWO in the floor? or would I want one in the floor, two in the shelf or vice versa?? what i'm trying to discern is whether or not i want my fans to replace air as quickly as it is taken away.

EXAMPLE: Fans in shelf displace at a rate of 80 CFM the floor fans are replacing at 80 CFM, is that efficient? overly efficient? under efficient?

Looking for pros on this one, just hope one checks out the thread!

:peace:
Shack
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you def want more cfm's on your exhaust than your intake fans and i would make light proofing the cab an immediate concern also.
 
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rudy.racoon

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I was thinking about this cabinet set up, did you start from beginning to harvest with the aerogarden, or did you transplant to a different system?
 
Shackleford.R

Shackleford.R

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rudy.racoon said:
I was thinking about this cabinet set up, did you start from beginning to harvest with the aerogarden, or did you transplant to a different system?
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i ended the grow prematurely.. given more time and effort (than i was willing to give) could have successfully brought the crop to harvest. i stopped after about 2-3 weeks from the start of flowering.

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Shack
 
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myxedup

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In regards to your fans, as DingBang said, you definately want more cfm's on your exhaust side. The reason for this is to create a negative air pressure within the cabinet resulting in the cabinet's air only exiting where you want it to, otherwise any type of odor control that you have in there won't do a thing as you'll be venting out of your door seals and any other place that isn't completely sealed.
Also, an easy solution to your light leaks would be to go and pick up some black and white polyfilm from your nearest hydroponics store and use that at your doors to prevent any light leakage there and then grab some cheap wood to line your door frame itself so that you have no light leaks whatsoever, you could even take a piece and nail it to one of the doors to overlap and you would be set there.
Hope you understand what I'm trying to say and that your next grow goes well.
 
DCBudz

DCBudz

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Dumb question here, but we would make the light leakage an immediate concern only for stealth reasons correct? Light leakage shouldn't affect the actual grow right? I still have a small problem with light leaking through my cab doors, but stealth really isn't an issue for me (I actually like to leave the doors open whenever I'm home). Just wondering if you would actually lose a significant amount of light to your plants by leaving the doors open or having light leakage while closed.

*Edit - Another reason I leave the doors open most of the time is because I still havn't purchased an exhaust fan for the cab. I guess once I do that, leaving the doors closed would be best as the plants would be able to get more light reflection.
 
Shackleford.R

Shackleford.R

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DCBudz said:
Dumb question here, but we would make the light leakage an immediate concern only for stealth reasons correct? Light leakage shouldn't affect the actual grow right? I still have a small problem with light leaking through my cab doors, but stealth really isn't an issue for me (I actually like to leave the doors open whenever I'm home). Just wondering if you would actually lose a significant amount of light to your plants by leaving the doors open or having light leakage while closed.

*Edit - Another reason I leave the doors open most of the time is because I still havn't purchased an exhaust fan for the cab. I guess once I do that, leaving the doors closed would be best as the plants would be able to get more light reflection.
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Light leaks are actually a problem when the lights are OFF!
the plan needs pitch darkness to promote rest and such...
long story short, if light leaks out, then light leaks in, and your flowers will suffer on down the road

:peace:
Shack

hope that answered your question. ACL erased my brain today!
 
DCBudz

DCBudz

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Shackleford.R said:
Light leaks are actually a problem when the lights are OFF!
the plan needs pitch darkness to promote rest and such...
long story short, if light leaks out, then light leaks in, and your flowers will suffer on down the road

:peace:
Shack

hope that answered your question. ACL erased my brain today!
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Nah man that makes perfect sense...I didn't even think of that. So checking out my plants every so often while the lights were off...probably a bad idea lol. Oh well now I know. Thanks bud. :joint:
 
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1sofakingg

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Checking on your plants for a minute or so is no big deal. Keeping light from directly hitting the plants is the objective. Try to make the room as dark as possible, use a small flashlight and don't shine it directly on the plants. Do this right after lights out and you will be ok. :eyesmoke:
DCBudz said:
Nah man that makes perfect sense...I didn't even think of that. So checking out my plants every so often while the lights were off...probably a bad idea lol. Oh well now I know. Thanks bud. :joint:
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mcinnc

mcinnc

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i cant wait til they make an AG like 4x bigger than the biggest one they have out now.
itll be sweeeeeeet.
 
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jcaponeny

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i have a very small set up, i have a 4 ft box lined with tin foil. i grow 2 plants at a time. cant seem to find a good answer for proper lighting. i am running 2 cfls, 150 watt equivelant. i only run 1 light at a time, i just went and bought a led 4 watt, 100 lumens, what should i do. my set up is home made and i only spent about 20 bucks on it. i like to keep it simple.what should i do for the most effecient way to light my grow box?
 
josh b

josh b

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nice nice i have a similar grow working on my air atm i just got a 6ft hoover pipe sticking out my window from my stealth cabit for some fresh air and also getting a fan for more fresh air and to make em strong
 
Shackleford.R

Shackleford.R

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jcaponeny said:
i have a very small set up, i have a 4 ft box lined with tin foil. i grow 2 plants at a time. cant seem to find a good answer for proper lighting. i am running 2 cfls, 150 watt equivelant. i only run 1 light at a time, i just went and bought a led 4 watt, 100 lumens, what should i do. my set up is home made and i only spent about 20 bucks on it. i like to keep it simple.what should i do for the most effecient way to light my grow box?
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the most efficient?? i would say ditch the tin foil, it really doesn't reflect enough light. also, it can create hot spots on your plants, wherein it does reflect light and reflects too much concentrated in a small area and burns your precious plants. i would set up your CFLs the way they are and get that LED in CLOOOOOSE! the usable distance for those is within 2-3 inches to my understanding. get some pictures up and i'll get you some help!

(for a cheap reflective surface, check the gift wrap aisle, there should be something mimicking mylar, if not there, camping and sporting goods, emergency blankets work very nicely, red on one side, basically mylar on the other, or both sides shiny)

Good luck and happy growing!

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Shack
 
Shackleford.R

Shackleford.R

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this cabinet was a bit of disaster, temp control was a nightmare, given more time and a little more though i could have done much better! looks cool though haha i agree!

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Shack
 
socialsmoker

socialsmoker

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hey shack iwas just thinking if u moved your airintake in the front so it would pull fresh air n . u know from the crack n the door just a thought
 
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