Stand alone flowering Nutrient.

Spider-Man

Spider-Man

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I will be running a study on:

Im looking for the closest thing I can find as a stand alone, 100% dissolved nutient. FOR THE FLOWERING STAGE ONLY.
That means the correct macro nutrients, also one additive that makes up, what's missing. Like calcium.

I am doing this for, Nothing! For a great Co. With little cannabis experience.

I already have the Veg Nutrients perfected.

The study will work like this:
Equipment:
I will be using a 5x9x10 Gorilla.

4--27 gallon RWDC single individual totes with individual 5 gallon reservoir sump totes.

Each unit will be running a Active Aqua water chiller. As well as 2 SE5000 480W Spiderfarmer's.

Air-conditioned with humidifier and dehumidifier.

I will be sending: Out of the tap, RO, Nutrient mixed and 7 day old nutrients. To a laboratory for analysis. Along with tissue samples.

The Study:
Four separate plants, all the same strain. Started at the same time.
All will go thru the Veg stage with the same nutrient mixture.

What I need is, what is thought to be the easiest stand alone nutrients once I change to Flower.

I'm doing one with cal-mag added to my veg nutrients.

I need Three more experimental Nutrient solutions for Flowering stage.


This will start next month. I will start picks once I build my rdwc systems.

This will be fun!
 
ProPheT 216

ProPheT 216

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Wow you perfected growing, mastered your own nutrient formula, are going to spend money on lab testing all after 1 grow.
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Nice big fresh grow space and expensive equipment don't grow great bud. Experience does, they only help you get the most out of your plant once you can grow it right. You can grow it bad under any light in any container.


Amazing I've been at it for 20 yrs.

Anyone ever tell you they put dissolved stuff in different bottles because it bonds. Same reason mixing order is important.

Also what you came to a conclusion on for your issues on your other thread are wrong. You certainly do not have your veg figured out
 
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curious2garden

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ProPheT 216 said:
Wow you perfected growing, mastered your own nutrient formula, are going to spend money on lab testing all after 1 grow. Amazing I've been at it for 20 yrs.

Anyone ever tell you they put dissolved stuff in different bottles because it bonds. Same reason mixing order is important.
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I want to move to dry nutrients. I've been looking at moving to Jack's because they offer integrated lab services for their product.

Lab Testing Services - JRP Lab Services | Allentown, PA | JR Peters Inc

Our on-site laboratory functions both to ensure we are delivering the best blend of nutrients in our Jack's fertilizers as well as a problem-solving mecca to provide growers with services and answers to the biggest problems they are facing.
www.jrpeters.com www.jrpeters.com

I'm hopeful this helps with the transition learning curve.

Spider-Man said:
I am doing this for, Nothing! For a great Co. With little cannabis experience.
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Interesting, to see, what's got you jumping into the deep end of the pool? I started in homemade NFT rails and sp. gravity. So I'm always curious to see someone going for the complex!

What lab are you using and tell me more about your nutrient choices.
 
ProPheT 216

ProPheT 216

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curious2garden said:
I want to move to dry nutrients. I've been looking at moving to Jack's because they offer integrated lab services for their product.

Lab Testing Services - JRP Lab Services | Allentown, PA | JR Peters Inc

Our on-site laboratory functions both to ensure we are delivering the best blend of nutrients in our Jack's fertilizers as well as a problem-solving mecca to provide growers with services and answers to the biggest problems they are facing.
www.jrpeters.com www.jrpeters.com

I'm hopeful this helps with the transition learning curve.


Interesting, to see, what's got you jumping into the deep end of the pool? I started in homemade NFT rails and sp. gravity. So I'm always curious to see someone going for the complex!

What lab are you using and tell me more about your nutrient choices.
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I run jacks. Not the traditional 3 2 1 tho. I run 4.1 grams of 5 12 26 and 2.1 of Cal nit. No Epsom. I found the 3.6 of jacks 2.4 of Cal nit and 1.2 of mag sulfate was a little hot for the plants and would cut out a quarter or fifth off each part of the mix to drop my ec. Then I did all the math and saw that just 4 of jacks and 2 of Cal nit gave me slightly more ppm on everything except calcium than removing ⅕ of the 3 2 1 did


That's plus recharge has been my mix for about 18 months now
 
Spider-Man

Spider-Man

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curious2garden said:
I want to move to dry nutrients. I've been looking at moving to Jack's because they offer integrated lab services for their product.

Lab Testing Services - JRP Lab Services | Allentown, PA | JR Peters Inc

Our on-site laboratory functions both to ensure we are delivering the best blend of nutrients in our Jack's fertilizers as well as a problem-solving mecca to provide growers with services and answers to the biggest problems they are facing.
www.jrpeters.com www.jrpeters.com

I'm hopeful this helps with the transition learning curve.


Interesting, to see, what's got you jumping into the deep end of the pool? I started in homemade NFT rails and sp. gravity. So I'm always curious to see someone going for the complex!

What lab are you using and tell me more about your nutrient choices.
Click to expand...
 
Spider-Man

Spider-Man

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curious2garden said:
I want to move to dry nutrients. I've been looking at moving to Jack's because they offer integrated lab services for their product.

Lab Testing Services - JRP Lab Services | Allentown, PA | JR Peters Inc

Our on-site laboratory functions both to ensure we are delivering the best blend of nutrients in our Jack's fertilizers as well as a problem-solving mecca to provide growers with services and answers to the biggest problems they are facing.
www.jrpeters.com www.jrpeters.com

I'm hopeful this helps with the transition learning curve.


Interesting, to see, what's got you jumping into the deep end of the pool? I started in homemade NFT rails and sp. gravity. So I'm always curious to see someone going for the complex!

What lab are you using and tell me more about your nutrient choices.
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Trying to get best results for simple people like myself!
The less I have to mix, the less chance of making a mistake.
I mix a 100 gal. Of nutrient at a time.
It's hard enough to keep everything in line as it is.
I'm going to see what works best.

I'm 65, retired engineer and I have the means. I want to see for myself.
 
ProPheT 216

ProPheT 216

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Spider-Man said:
Trying to get best results for simple people like myself!
The less I have to mix, the less chance of making a mistake.
I mix a 100 gal. Of nutrient at a time.
It's hard enough to keep everything in line as it is.
I'm going to see what works best.

I'm 65, retired engineer and I have the means. I want to see for myself.
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4 grams of jacks per gal
2 grams of Cal nit per gal

4x100=400
2x100=200
 
curious2garden

curious2garden

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Spider-Man said:
Trying to get best results for simple people like myself!
The less I have to mix, the less chance of making a mistake.
I mix a 100 gal. Of nutrient at a time.
It's hard enough to keep everything in line as it is.
I'm going to see what works best.

I'm 65, retired engineer and I have the means. I want to see for myself.
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That's cool. So have you looked at JR Peters or you have another lab and nutrient source in mind? I'm attracted to having a lab backup for my growing questions. They also do paste samples et al and will help dial in my nutrients. Unlike many of the guys here I'm not an intuitive grower. So having lab backup will save me precious time.
 
Spider-Man

Spider-Man

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ProPheT 216 said:
I run jacks. Not the traditional 3 2 1 tho. I run 4.1 grams of 5 12 26 and 2.1 of Cal nit. No Epsom. I found the 3.6 of jacks 2.4 of Cal nit and 1.2 of mag sulfate was a little hot for the plants and would cut out a quarter or fifth off each part of the mix to drop my ec. Then I did all the math and saw that just 4 of jacks and 2 of Cal nit gave me slightly more ppm on everything except calcium than removing ⅕ of the 3 2 1 did


That's plus recharge has been my mix for about 18 months now
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ProPheT 216 said:
I run jacks. Not the traditional 3 2 1 tho. I run 4.1 grams of 5 12 26 and 2.1 of Cal nit. No Epsom. I found the 3.6 of jacks 2.4 of Cal nit and 1.2 of mag sulfate was a little hot for the plants and would cut out a quarter or fifth off each part of the mix to drop my ec. Then I did all the math and saw that just 4 of jacks and 2 of Cal nit gave me slightly more ppm on everything except calcium than removing ⅕ of the 3 2 1 did


That's plus recharge has been my mix for about 18 months now
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This is how bad I am. What's 3 2 1?

I just burned up thre plants with 10-30-20 in flower. I had no calcium.
I'm a learner, the hard way.

That's way I'm running a test.
I think I have perfection with what I'm using for veg.

After that I'm screwed.
 
ProPheT 216

ProPheT 216

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Spider-Man said:
Is that for flower? That's it?
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I run the same thing from veg to finish. I ramp up feed strength quickly from no feed at all, just tap till the third set of leaves begins to crown. To then going up on ec about a ¼ every time I have to mix till I hit my full strength and just stay there till the end. If your plants seem to need more. Change your res a couple days sooner. They certainly can eat the nutrients and leave the water
 
Spider-Man

Spider-Man

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ProPheT 216 said:
I run the same thing from veg to finish. I ramp up feed strength quickly from no feed at all, just tap till the third set of leaves begins to crown. To then going up on ec about a ¼ every time I have to mix till I hit my full strength and just stay there till the end. If your plants seem to need more. Change your res a couple days sooner. They certainly can eat the nutrients and leave the water
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Wow, I run masterblend 4-18-38 with magnesium sulfate and calcium nitrate. When I go to flower I stop that nutrient, completely.
Switched to Masterblend 10-30-20 Blossom Booster with no calcium nitrate or magnesium sulfate.

I screwd up. I could have went the long haul and blew it.
 
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