Springtails

Lochness1980 said:

Coco woth vitalink A nd B

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I don't know anything about that stuff, but I'd check pH first.

Phing at 6.0

Any solutions at all anyone?

Lochness1980 said:

What the actual fk is going on now... plants r going all yellow and pale gave a dose of N but no change... EC runoff is a massive 2.05 on both.... tried soft nute flush but still no change... any ideas anyone??

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Soft nute flush how long ago? If I thought I was having lockout I would flush with PH 5.8 until my runoff was between .5-1 EC and wait until the next day to feed again at a lower strength that before. Do you typically water to runoff? What EC do you normally feed?

UpstateRecGrower said:

Soft nute flush how long ago? If I thought I was having lockout I would flush with PH 5.8 until my runoff was between .5-1 EC and wait until the next day to feed again at a lower strength that before. Do you typically water to runoff? What EC do you normally feed?

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I've been feeding around .8 but noticed the EC rising so I soft nute flushed them 4 2 days and still nothing... bottom leaves are turning g brownish

Lochness1980 said:

I've been feeding around .8 but noticed the EC rising so I soft nute flushed them 4 2 days and still nothing... bottom leaves are turning g brownish

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ok, .8 is weak, less than I've ever been able to feed. Newer coco can have a high runoff EC on its own it could just be that you're underfeeding at .8 and by feeding even weaker for the last 2 days it may even be a little worse now. I would water through 1.5 EC nutes, use the volume of the pot as how much to water through, so if they're 2 gallon pots water in 2 gallons, that should flush out all your weak nutes or anything else, pretty sure those plants are just hungry.

I just skimmed through the thread, did this happen shortly after the h2o2? Perhaps the peroxide damaged the roots? Are you normally able to feed at .8ec without issues?

UpstateRecGrower said:

I just skimmed through the thread, did this happen shortly after the h2o2? Perhaps the peroxide damaged the roots? Are you normally able to feed at .8ec without issues?

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I didn't use a load of h2o2 less than halt the recommended 1/3 but seemed OK for a while after this has literally just happened in the last 4 days... I initially thought it was rust spots but seems like under feeding might be right ... they r in 20ltr fabric pots and I'm giving them 2lt nute flush each but normally 1ltr each gets about 300ml runoff

So just flushed the fkn life outta them.... ph is down to 1.2 on 1 and other is 1.8 so hopefully if they don't die they will recover nicely... I used my RO water collected from the dehumidifier to give them a zero salt feed so to be sure to flush all the collective salt build up... fingers crossed ppl

Lochness1980 said:

So just flushed the fkn life outta them.... ph is down to 1.2 on 1 and other is 1.8 so hopefully if they don't die they will recover nicely... I used my RO water collected from the dehumidifier to give them a zero salt feed so to be sure to flush all the collective salt build up... fingers crossed ppl

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The ph is 1.8?

Lochness1980 said:

What the actual fk is going on now... plants r going all yellow and pale gave a dose of N but no change... EC runoff is a massive 2.05 on both.... tried soft nute flush but still no change... any ideas anyone??

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What strength are you feeding it and how often?

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Star Dog said:

What strength are you feeding it and how often?

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Was .8 but started to show signs of bute burn so started flushing... 1 plant was 2.4 and 2.6 both down now so will start a soft nute feed to see if thay improve

Lochness1980 said:

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Was .8 but started to show signs of bute burn so started flushing... 1 plant was 2.4 and 2.6 both down now so will start a soft nute feed to see if thay improve

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Ime to be that far out it must be very hot and dry or not been feeding sufficiently to run off?

Tomorrow's feed will be 1.2 and 2ltr going into 30ltr pots filled to 25ltr with coco

DoubleAtotheRON said:

Microblift is very affective with Spingtails. they can really populate fast. As far as I know, they have no beneficial value. They just eat at your small capillary roots and overtake your plants really fast... I mentioned this in another thread earlier. 1 drop per 2 gallons will kill them out.

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i got em, and microblift didn't do anything to them....

5dekades said:

i got em, and microblift didn't do anything to them....

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Interesting… I don’t think the stuff goes bad to my knowledge.

5dekades said:

i got em, and microblift didn't do anything to them....

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It's not supposed to. Springtails are usually beneficial in soil as long as there's not a shitload of em. I'm guessing you're in soil, but you should start a thread. I got confused for a sec since you're not the OP.

DoubleAtotheRON said:

Interesting… I don’t think the stuff goes bad to my knowledge.

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Pretty sure the microbes will die over time. I think there's a date on it isn't there? I don't remember.

PadawanWarrior said:

It's not supposed to. Springtails are usually beneficial in soil as long as there's not a shitload of em. I'm guessing you're in soil, but you should start a thread. I got confused for a sec since you're not the OP.


Pretty sure the microbes will die over time. I think there's a date on it isn't there? I don't remember.

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I’ve had them Superbad in coco, I think I yielded more in springtail than flower lol. Pretty sure the BTi bacteria in microbe lift doesn’t affect springtails, I looked into what kills them when I had the issue and nothing about BTi came up. I think there is a product but don’t recall what it was, it was on one of those do your own pest control websites and I think it was expensive, could only be bought in larger quantities..

UpstateRecGrower said:

I’ve had them Superbad in coco, I think I yielded more in springtail than flower lol. Pretty sure the BTi bacteria in microbe lift doesn’t affect springtails, I looked into what kills them when I had the issue and nothing about BTi came up. I think there is a product but don’t recall what it was, it was on one of those do your own pest control websites and I think it was expensive, could only be bought in larger quantities..

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Ya, it seems most people that have problems with them are in coco. I haven't grown in coco but maybe citric acid or H2O2 could work? I don't know.

PadawanWarrior said:

Ya, it seems most people that have problems with them are in coco. I haven't grown in coco but maybe citric acid or H2O2 could work? I don't know.

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Id say h2o2 would almost have to work, at least suppress them a bit.. I’m back in rockwool now so idc.. idk it’s weird like somehow they must come already inside of the bagged coco?