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staysmokin

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Im just not understanding we just harvested and been curing for about 6 weeks. Seems we keep getting same results and im just not understanding why. Bud is really sticky but has lost almost all its smell and has not formed any good taste at all. I have no clue what im doing wrong our enviroment is spot on. We even tried taking some at different points rom snap to just bend to see if thats where i was messing up. Im lost and it is very discouraging putting all tbis effort and money into something i dont want to smoke. Our dry room stays at 62 degrees at 60% humidity hang dry for about 7-10 days. If we wait for snapwhen put in jars humidity only goes to 45-55% but if i take before snapthe humidity after putting in jars is around 60-62% . I open jars every day for 15 mins first week and then every few daya after that for a month. Then open it once a week. Nit sure where im messing up. Ive noticed a couple jars started smelling eally well and thenovwr night it went away . Really could use some advise.am i curing wrong??
 
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amneziaHaze said:
when you open the jars is the room 40%?
is the fan blowing directly in to the buds
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No fan hits side of a 2x4 tent. Usually takes about 10 days if i wait for a snap. I keep jars in the dry tent after dried where its 62degrees and between 58-60% humidity. But if i wait for the snap after in a jar for 24 hours my humidity is way low in the 45-50% range maybe sometimes 55% never 60-63% unless i tske it when buds feel dry to touch but stems dont snap. Then i jar them after trimming. Burp them for 15-30 mins a day first week then 15 mins every 3 days for next two weeks then once a week after that. Whats weird the jars will smell really good after first couple days then the smell goes away and it never taste like it smells. Im jist lost becuase i feel like im doing everyrhing by the book. And i dint have anykne around me that knows what there doing to help show me where im going wrong. I have a mars hydron 6 bar 650 watt light usually about 75% at end of flower. Could it be to much light at end and im volitizing the terps? Juat looking for any guidance
 
MtRainDog

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From what you're saying, it sounds like you're doing things right.

Have different strains all had this same problem for you? Drying time and terp retention will vary between different cultivars.
 
amneziaHaze

amneziaHaze

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the second your humidity goes under 55% you can get hay smell
problem with snap is some parts of the plant are thick and they take long time some parts are really thin and they go under really fast.
do you dry the whole plant with leafs or just the trimmed buds?
 
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MtRainDog said:
From what you're saying, it sounds like you're doing things right.

Have different strains all had this same problem for you? Drying time and terp retention will vary between different cultivars.
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Yes it seems to be the same way with every strand. Im was starting to wonder if my light is to intensr at the end or if im opening my jars to often burping and drying them out idk im lost
 
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amneziaHaze said:
the second your humidity goes under 55% you can get hay smell
problem with snap is some parts of the plant are thick and they take long time some parts are really thin and they go under really fast.
do you dry the whole plant with leafs or just the trimmed buds?
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Ive tried both whole plant as well at single branch i cut the water leaves off and leave sugar leaves to help with extending the dry.
 
DankDave420

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staysmokin said:
Im just not understanding we just harvested and been curing for about 6 weeks. Seems we keep getting same results and im just not understanding why. Bud is really sticky but has lost almost all its smell and has not formed any good taste at all. I have no clue what im doing wrong our enviroment is spot on. We even tried taking some at different points rom snap to just bend to see if thats where i was messing up. Im lost and it is very discouraging putting all tbis effort and money into something i dont want to smoke. Our dry room stays at 62 degrees at 60% humidity hang dry for about 7-10 days. If we wait for snapwhen put in jars humidity only goes to 45-55% but if i take before snapthe humidity after putting in jars is around 60-62% . I open jars every day for 15 mins first week and then every few daya after that for a month. Then open it once a week. Nit sure where im messing up. Ive noticed a couple jars started smelling eally well and thenovwr night it went away . Really could use some advise.am i curing wrong??
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Are the buds sticky or wet??? From what I'm gathering you attempting to jar them before they snap because you think it is too dry otherwise?
You need to dry the buds good because the little moisture retained in the stems is enough to spread back into the bud and ruin it.
 
MtRainDog

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You're doing it right, but maybe just need to develop the feel for it a little more. The trick is to get it right to that point between fresh and dried (you don't need hydrometers for this). The only way I understand to do that is by feel, gently squeezing the nugs.

Keeping leaves and the plant intact instead of cutting off individual branches will help prolong the drying process. Dry until snap is good, and like was said, not all of the plant will dry at the same rate. It's perfectly ok to jar some buds and not others while they still dry.

Leave the lid barely cracked open when they first go into the jar. Check often, like every couple hours until they feel dry. Close the lid. Check back the next day. If they feel damp in the middle, let the dry out with the lid barely cracked again. Rinse repeat this process allowing the jar to remain closed longer and longer (hours, then days, then weeks).
 
DankDave420

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staysmokin said:
Im just not understanding we just harvested and been curing for about 6 weeks. Seems we keep getting same results and im just not understanding why. Bud is really sticky but has lost almost all its smell and has not formed any good taste at all. I have no clue what im doing wrong our enviroment is spot on. We even tried taking some at different points rom snap to just bend to see if thats where i was messing up. Im lost and it is very discouraging putting all tbis effort and money into something i dont want to smoke. Our dry room stays at 62 degrees at 60% humidity hang dry for about 7-10 days. If we wait for snapwhen put in jars humidity only goes to 45-55% but if i take before snapthe humidity after putting in jars is around 60-62% . I open jars every day for 15 mins first week and then every few daya after that for a month. Then open it once a week. Nit sure where im messing up. Ive noticed a couple jars started smelling eally well and thenovwr night it went away . Really could use some advise.am i curing wrong??
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And if you're new you probably didn't dry it long enough.
Provided that your grow came out good.
Before you jarred it did you test the dry crumbly bud? Was it fire? Then it lost the fire in the jar? Or it was never fire? Because it should still be fire before curing. And it should have been dry enough to smoke before jarring.
 
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DankDave420 said:
Are the buds sticky or wet??? From what I'm gathering you attempting to jar them before they snap because you think it is too dry otherwise?
You need to dry the buds good because the little moisture retained in the stems is enough to spread back into the bud and ruin it.
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Yes the buds are def sticky when you break it up your fingers stick together.. and your correct so every talks about the cure zone is 58-62% well when i wait for the snap as you would say when i jar them the jars never rise up above 45% - 55% in the jar . And just going by what ive read that is not able to be cured.
 
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DankDave420 said:
And if you're new you probably didn't dry it long enough.
Provided that your grow came out good.
Before you jarred it did you test the dry crumbly bud? Was it fire? Then it lost the fire in the jar? Or it was never fire? Because it should still be fire before curing. And it should have been dry enough to smoke before jarring.
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I have done it sever differwnt ways i have waited for the stems to snap and buds dry before jaring and i have waited for the buds to dry to touch with a little squeeze and no stem snap. Same results
 
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MtRainDog said:
You're doing it right, but maybe just need to develop the feel for it a little more. The trick is to get it right to that point between fresh and dried (you don't need hydrometers for this). The only way I understand to do that is by feel, gently squeezing the nugs.

Keeping leaves and the plant intact instead of cutting off individual branches will help prolong the drying process. Dry until snap is good, and like was said, not all of the plant will dry at the same rate. It's perfectly ok to jar some buds and not others while they still dry.

Leave the lid barely cracked open when they first go into the jar. Check often, like every couple hours until they feel dry. Close the lid. Check back the next day. If they feel damp in the middle, let the dry out with the lid barely cracked again. Rinse repeat this process allowing the jar to remain closed longer and longer (hours, then days, then weeks).
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I also squeeze and feel. The problem i have like mentioned if i wait for that snap the humidity in jar never gets up to cure zone 58-62 it alwasy stays usually 45-50% but sometimes im able to jar it with snap and it be at 55%. These are supposed to be good genetics this last run i paid a good amount for the seeds. So im jist not understand why it all ends up the same. I took several at different moisture levels this run im hoping something turns out better than last but its cure week 6 and all has hardly any taste a few have stringer smells then other jars . Buds smell good when you give them a little squeeze i just font get why i cant taste it.
 
DankDave420

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staysmokin said:
I have done it sever differwnt ways i have waited for the stems to snap and buds dry before jaring and i have waited for the buds to dry to touch with a little squeeze and no stem snap. Same results
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staysmokin said:
I also squeeze and feel. The problem i have like mentioned if i wait for that snap the humidity in jar never gets up to cure zone 58-62 it alwasy stays usually 45-50% but sometimes im able to jar it with snap and it be at 55%. These are supposed to be good genetics this last run i paid a good amount for the seeds. So im jist not understand why it all ends up the same. I took several at different moisture levels this run im hoping something turns out better than last but its cure week 6 and all has hardly any taste a few have stringer smells then other jars . Buds smell good when you give them a little squeeze i just font get why i cant taste it.
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staysmokin said:
I also squeeze and feel. The problem i have like mentioned if i wait for that snap the humidity in jar never gets up to cure zone 58-62 it alwasy stays usually 45-50% but sometimes im able to jar it with snap and it be at 55%. These are supposed to be good genetics this last run i paid a good amount for the seeds. So im jist not understand why it all ends up the same. I took several at different moisture levels this run im hoping something turns out better than last but its cure week 6 and all has hardly any taste a few have stringer smells then other jars . Buds smell good when you give them a little squeeze i just font get why i cant taste it.
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Your bud probably isn't dry enough. But understand that curing isn't going to make bad bud amazing. That's why I wondered how your test samples were.
 
DankDave420

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The outside of your bud should be popcorn dry. Smaller buds will be smokable. Smaller stems will snap.
Then you trim it and jar it. At first the moisture goes back through the bud and instead of dry it will be spongy again. Then you burp it because that is too much moisture, so you burp it until until it the buds snap open. It shouldn't be spongy when you tear it.
My concern is that you are making the mistake many make early on and your afraid to dry it enough and are smoking moist bud.
 
HydoDan

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After I dry, it goes into paper bags to cure for a couple weeks then into jars.. No burping..

This is from Cannabis.net:
Using paper bags at the end of the drying process helps slow things down and ensures nice, smooth nugs. But when exactly should you start drying cannabis in a paper bag? Once the little stems connected to the buds are dry, and you can snap them, they are ready. The environment created by the paper bags helps the moisture present in the buds evaporate evenly.
You don’t need to worry about trimming your buds correctly at this point. You can have smaller branches with a couple of buds that could fit loosely into the bags. Make sure you choose a thick brown paper bag, but not a waxed or glossy one. Once you place the buds inside the bag, even if they’re full of moisture In the center, the environment will distribute and evaporate it evenly. Follow this technique and your buds will not end up too dry that they crumble when you touch them, nor too damp that mold or mildew grows.
When the nugs reach a good point in terms of moisture, you can place the paper bags inside a black plastic bag and close it tight to stop drying. If your environment makes the drying go too fast, this process can help slow it down. Curing cannabis in paper bags should only be done for the first couple of weeks. This is because the bag is made of breathable material, so the buds will continue to slowly dry until taken out. No one wants to have completely dried, crumbling nugs after a couple of months.
 
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HydoDan said:
After I dry it goes into paper bags to cure for a couple weeks then into jars.. No burping..

This is from Cannabis .net:
Using paper bags at the end of the drying process helps slow things down and ensures nice, smooth nugs. But when exactly should you start drying cannabis in a paper bag? Once the little stems connected to the buds are dry, and you can snap them, they are ready. The environment created by the paper bags helps the moisture present in the buds evaporate evenly.
You don’t need to worry about trimming your buds correctly at this point. You can have smaller branches with a couple of buds that could fit loosely into the bags. Make sure you choose a thick brown paper bag, but not a waxed or glossy one. Once you place the buds inside the bag, even if they’re full of moisture In the center, the environment will distribute and evaporate it evenly. Follow this technique and your buds will not end up too dry that they crumble when you touch them, nor too damp that mold or mildew grows.
When the nugs reach a good point in terms of moisture, you can place the paper bags inside a black plastic bag and close it tight to stop drying. If your environment makes the drying go too fast, this process can help slow it down. Curing cannabis in paper bags should only be done for the first couple of weeks. This is because the bag is made of breathable material, so the buds will continue to slowly dry until taken out. No one wants to have completely dried, crumbling nugs after a couple of months.
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HydoDan said:
After I dry it goes into paper bags to cure for a couple weeks then into jars.. No burping..

This is from Cannabis .net:
Using paper bags at the end of the drying process helps slow things down and ensures nice, smooth nugs. But when exactly should you start drying cannabis in a paper bag? Once the little stems connected to the buds are dry, and you can snap them, they are ready. The environment created by the paper bags helps the moisture present in the buds evaporate evenly.
You don’t need to worry about trimming your buds correctly at this point. You can have smaller branches with a couple of buds that could fit loosely into the bags. Make sure you choose a thick brown paper bag, but not a waxed or glossy one. Once you place the buds inside the bag, even if they’re full of moisture In the center, the environment will distribute and evaporate it evenly. Follow this technique and your buds will not end up too dry that they crumble when you touch them, nor too damp that mold or mildew grows.
When the nugs reach a good point in terms of moisture, you can place the paper bags inside a black plastic bag and close it tight to stop drying. If your environment makes the drying go too fast, this process can help slow it down. Curing cannabis in paper bags should only be done for the first couple of weeks. This is because the bag is made of breathable material, so the buds will continue to slowly dry until taken out. No one wants to have completely dried, crumbling nugs after a couple of months.
Regardless of the details how you cure it. It needs to be dry enough to smoke. Nobodies detailed cure is going to make your bud amazing. He went from air to jar. That makes perfectly fine cannabis. Guaranteed he isn't over drying his stuff. He put it in jar with wet stems.
Op is it crumbly????
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DankDave420

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Sorry about that. The evidence does not point to over drying, he jarred it with wet stems, he said so.
Let's ask the OP.
Is your bud crumbley? Do your stems still bend or do they snap? How were your samples???
If he ever answers those questions we'll have his problem solved.
 
HydoDan

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DankDave420 said:
Sorry about that. The evidence does not point to over drying, he jarred it with wet stems, he said so.
Let's ask the OP.
Is your bud crumbley? Do your stems still bend or do they snap? How were your samples???
If he ever answers those questions we'll have his problem solved.
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I'm just pointing out the fact that there are different ways to cure weed.. This is old school from the 70s and has worked for me since then..
 
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