Some leaves are going yellow?

doujadaze said:

Yeah i dont think you need to go out and buy new nutes right away. In fact i think many growers use those successfully and love them. Just amend it if need be. Ex: Cal Mag: Just watch your plants and see what there telling you. Read that thread a lot of your questions will be answered. Dont throw those nutes out.

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Thanks a bunch for you're help. I don't know if you saw my old posts, but I mentioned I only fed them TWICE, EVER. If I can't buy any nutes yet, should I start feeding them with my nutes I've got currently?

Yes. What are the npks of all the nutes you have. Give them something that is closest to a 3-1-2. Do it the next feeding. Around a 1/4 teaspoon per gallon is common all though read what it says and give them half to start. They need a lot of N in Veg and all through out the cycle. Most common this i see if yellowing of the leaves in late flower cause of the high P and K ratios. So yes there hungry feed em.

yeah fuck it just use the one with more Nitrogen. maybe mix the one with more PK know how to properly mix A+B nutes add what u wanna add of A first, wait 15 mins, then add the B. if u have cal mag always do cal mag first because its more alkaline and will help stabilize the ph quicker because of the way things change when you add everything

Currency said:

water PH is around 6.5. I've not used many nutrients and this time I'm using soil, and the nutrients I have came with my hydro pack, will they be okay to use in soil?

When I measured the ph with the "solution?" or feed, it seemed okay on my chart.

I've only ever added nuts twice since they started since I am using a milk carton to water with, and nutrients are ment to me mixed with a large hydro tub (which is what i'll be doing next time).


Can they still be saved? If so, what should I do? Feed them more often?

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People are funny, your water's PH is 6.5 but whats the runoff PH of the water that comes out of the pot after you water?

Clearex flush it then water it with like botanicare grow and some cal mag at half of what the bottle says and keep ur ph 6.5 I would alternate nutw solution and just ph balanced water. For a week then get a high nitrogen like grow n from aurora and sneak it in .5 to 1 ml per gallon. Remember to flush before your 12/12 and every week or other week a clear ex watering not even a flush but just a watering helps leach salts from roots. Also if u switch to fabric pots u can het way better overall results amd problems are easier to fix u have to water a lot more so do the e/o nute solution deal.

if i recall correctly it says 1:1000L which converts to 1ML/L which is about 4ML/gal. so id take 2.5 gallons of water, take a teaspoon (about 5ml) take 1 1/2 tsp of A, wait 15 mins, then add 1/2 tsp of b. I think A is the nitrogen and b is the PK

Cool, thanks.

This is the Growth Feed instructions:

Add the desired volume of water to your nutrient tank and add the following rates: Young Vegetative plants: add 1-2ml part A/1-2ml Part b Per litre.

Mature plants: Add 3-4 part A/3-4ml Part B per litre.


Quite straight forward, as I water with a litre carton.

GROWTH B it says: EC NUTRIENT NPK 5.1/7.8/2.6, it doesn't give anything on A though.

FLOWERING B it says. NPK: 5/9.6/4.6, again, nothing on A.

trevsprouts said:

Clearex flush it then water it with like botanicare grow and some cal mag at half of what the bottle says and keep ur ph 6.5 I would alternate nutw solution and just ph balanced water. For a week then get a high nitrogen like grow n from aurora and sneak it in .5 to 1 ml per gallon. Remember to flush before your 12/12 and every week or other week a clear ex watering not even a flush but just a watering helps leach salts from roots. Also if u switch to fabric pots u can het way better overall results amd problems are easier to fix u have to water a lot more so do the e/o nute solution deal.

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does he really need to clearex ? he said hes only been giving it water

^ Hoping they dont run into you. Jeffdogg Ha Agree

This too came with the package. BIOPLUS, increased root mass gives superior growth and yield. This can be mixed as with the A/B solution.

Incase anybody missed my posts with the NPK and stuff, just scroll up.

Nizza said:

yeah fuck it just use the one with more Nitrogen. maybe mix the one with more PK know how to properly mix A+B nutes add what u wanna add of A first, wait 15 mins, then add the B. if u have cal mag always do cal mag first because its more alkaline and will help stabilize the ph quicker because of the way things change when you add everything

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who in the world told you to wait 15 minutes before adding the B part to a 2 part formula?


The way the chlorosis is spreading it looks more of a PH, even though he claims its 6.5 he never mentioned and prob never tested the runoff PH. If buddy would of done more research before growing and learned about Dolomite lime it would of solved his PH, and any cal/mag def's. instead of convincing him to pack on more nitro/cal/mag you guys should be advising him how to handle it properly.. not giving a quick fix that you "believe" will work...

A good way to stabilize the soil for growing cannabis is to use dolomite lime (calcium-magnesium carbonate). Dolomite lime acts slowly and continuously, so soil will remain Ph stable for a few months. It is important to use the finest grades of dolomite lime. Dolomite lime has been used by gardeners as a Ph
stabilizer for many years. It has a Ph that is neutral (7.0). When added to soil in the correct proportions, it will stabilize soil around that 7.0 mark.
When growing in pots, add one cup of fine dolomite lime to each cubic foot of soil, lightly water it and wait for a day or two before checking the Ph.
If you use soil specifically aimed at cannabis growing then it is already going to have the right quantities of many things and should stabilise itself.

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Dolomite Lime (sweet lime)
A rich source of calcium and magnesium which is very important for all stages of the medical marijuana plant. Dolomite lime is also a great pH buffer for any soil composition and, as with oyster shell, ensures the soil’s pH doesn’t turn too acidic.
The addition of these organic ingredients to an outdoor soil environment will give your medical marijuana plants multiple sources of the various elements that they need in order to flourish.
Combining slow and fast releasing sources of these elements is recommended to be sure the plants will continue to receive proper nutrition throughout the long outdoor growing season. By building up their soil, outdoor medical marijuana growers can, literally, provide their plants with everything they need under the sun.

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This is a cal def

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See the difference?

Symptoms

Magnesium is mobile in the marijuana plant so if there is a deficiency, the chloroplasts in the middle-aged leaves that are below the flowering top are broken down and the magnesium is transported to the young parts. This process of breaking down the chlorophyll is manifested in the rust brown spots and/or vague, cloud-like chlorotic spots between the veins. It is more difficult to extract magnesium from the older leaves because the magnesium is an intrinsic part of the organic material. A minor magnesium deficiency has little effect on flowering despite the fact that the formation of flowers makes the magnesium deficiency symptoms worse. View attachment 2699532

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See how in the OP's pic his chlorosis is coming from the tip of the leaf and working its way towards the plant instead of "sucking" the green in from the veins like in the mg pic?

PH starts from the bottom of the plant and works its way up, mag def start around the middle aged leaves not the bottom, if you look carefully at the OP's pics they are of the bottom set of leaves...

Currency said:

water PH is around 6.5. I've not used many nutrients and this time I'm using soil, and the nutrients I have came with my hydro pack, will they be okay to use in soil?

When I measured the ph with the "solution?" or feed, it seemed okay on my chart.

I've only ever added nuts twice since they started since I am using a milk carton to water with, and nutrients are ment to me mixed with a large hydro tub (which is what i'll be doing next time).


Can they still be saved? If so, what should I do? Feed them more often?

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Completely forget about PH. It is a MYTH! Marijuana is a PH tolerant plant. Unless your PH is some off the chart nutty shit like Mexico City tap water then don't worry about it! Throw out that weird snake oil nutes you mentioned. LIke in the trash can right now. Look what a stoner can do with wal-mart soil, hose water from the backyard, and Miracle Grow can do.
your Plants are nitrogen starved. You need a N-P-K of like 9-6-5 or a even 10-10-10. NEVER GO TO A WEED GROW SHOP AGAIN. THEY ARE CHEAP HUSTLERS. Vegas pimps have more respect for themselves than a Marijuana Grow Shop operator. Get a book on basic house plant botany, not Jorges Guide to not Growing Weed.
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Impman said:

Completely forget about PH. It is a MYTH! Marijuana is a PH tolerant plant. Unless your PH is some off the chart nutty shit like Mexico City tap water then don't worry about it! Throw out that weird snake oil nutes you mentioned. LIke in the trash can right now. Look what a stoner can do with wal-mart soil, hose water from the backyard, and Miracle Grow can do.
your Plants are nitrogen starved. You need a N-P-K of like 9-6-5 or a even 10-10-10. NEVER GO TO A WEED GROW SHOP AGAIN. THEY ARE CHEAP HUSTLERS. Vegas pimps have more respect for themselves than a Marijuana Grow Shop operator. Get a book on basic house plant botany, not Jorges Guide to not Growing Weed.
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Thanks for you're assistance, I'm not opposed to Miracle grow, but it seems nearly everybody I talk to about it don't like it.

Jeffdogg Considering he has only feed twice... and is being advised to feed again.....How is it that he is packing on a bunch on nutes....Explain? And everything i have advised HAS been to do more research. Dont come here to cause a scene. Come on man. Really.. And i highly highly doubt its PH. He is in SOIL. Soil has a great buffering ability unless he completely messed it up. Dont hate.

Edit Man i thought that was meant to me. I see what your reading my bad. Keep on going. My mistake

Impman perfect timing. Second that !

Currency said:

Thanks for you're assistance, I'm not opposed to Miracle grow, but it seems nearly everybody I talk to about it don't like it.

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Like I said, cheap hustlers and vegas style pimps. It is a fucking Plant, man. Look to your neighbors backyards at how giant tomato plants get these days. Those folks are not using Cutting Edge Alien Bat Guana Nitro Nutes. Just MG.

Impman said:

Like I said, cheap hustlers and vegas style pimps. It is a fucking Plant, man. Look to your neighbors backyards at how giant tomato plants get these days. Those folks are not using Cutting Edge Alien Bat Guana Nitro Nutes. Just MG.

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Haha, thanks so much for you're help. Should I still use miracle grow during flowering stage?

trevsprouts said:

Clearex flush it then water it with like botanicare grow and some cal mag at half of what the bottle says and keep ur ph 6.5 I would alternate nutw solution and just ph balanced water. For a week then get a high nitrogen like grow n from aurora and sneak it in .5 to 1 ml per gallon. Remember to flush before your 12/12 and every week or other week a clear ex watering not even a flush but just a watering helps leach salts from roots. Also if u switch to fabric pots u can het way better overall results amd problems are easier to fix u have to water a lot more so do the e/o nute solution deal.

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OP...don't do this ^^^^.
If funds are tight, get some miracle grow 20-20-20
or MG bloom ferts if real tight.
Dont freaking flush first.

trevsprouts said:

Clearex flush it then water it with like botanicare grow and some cal mag at half of what the bottle says and keep ur ph 6.5 I would alternate nutw solution and just ph balanced water. For a week then get a high nitrogen like grow n from aurora and sneak it in .5 to 1 ml per gallon. Remember to flush before your 12/12 and every week or other week a clear ex watering not even a flush but just a watering helps leach salts from roots. Also if u switch to fabric pots u can het way better overall results amd problems are easier to fix u have to water a lot more so do the e/o nute solution deal.

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OP see what i meant about my earlier post. about some of the advice you will get. Again Be Careful out here.