Sol-Skin, let the journey begin...

@welight
Mark I'm wondering if you have any ideas of what I could do to upgrade my current DIY.
I've got 2- 6"wide X 36" long heatsinks with 8 cxb3590's on 2 HLG-240H-C1750B's, powering each series of 4.
I was checking out your crm-3050 pucks and was wondering if maybe I could just plaster those all across my heatsinks.
I dunno, I just want to reuse the drivers and get the best spread of light for the least amount of money. I'd love some ideas if you've got any.

i would love to get the spec of the Cree J series comparate to the nichia 757f1v3 or lm301b in term of lm/W
you also have 5050 PC Red(660nm) ?? what are those beeeassssst @welight ??

grisbi said:

i would love to get the spec of the Cree J series comparate to the nichia 757f1v3 or lm301b in term of lm/W
you also have 5050 PC Red(660nm) ?? what are those beeeassssst @welight ??

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Give me a month or so, I will have real tests to show you guys, I need to get my hands on the latest Samsung in order to do a fair comparison between them all, I need to match all the colour temperatures and cri as close as possible to do a fair comparison.

TEKNIK said:

Give me a month or so, I will have real tests to show you guys, I need to get my hands on the latest Samsung in order to do a fair comparison between them all, I need to match all the colour temperatures and cri as close as possible to do a fair comparison.

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LM301h?

My plan is to test what is available on the latest HLG board, so I basically need to get my hands on the latest HLG board with 288 LED's. I was to do a comparison to a solskin with 288 leds also both in cree and the nichia V3. I need to see what is on the HLG board first then get cutter to match the cri and colour temperature so the tests can be as fair as possible. I suspect nichia will be the best then Samsung then cree.

I will also be doing the same test on lumileds 5050 chips and cree 5050 chips. Lumileds say they are alot higher in efficacy than the cree chips, I want to see how much higher they are in a real test. I know that Cree and lumileds use the same blue chips in thier 5050 packages so they should be the same. Only difference maybe the cree uses extra phosphor to maintain colour over the lifetime and this may explain the lower efficiency from cree.

TEKNIK said:

My plan is to test what is available on the latest HLG board, so I basically need to get my hands on the latest HLG board with 288 LED's. I was to do a comparison to a solskin with 288 leds also both in cree and the nichia V3. I need to see what is on the HLG board first then get cutter to match the cri and colour temperature so the tests can be as fair as possible. I suspect nichia will be the best then Samsung then cree.

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So how many diodes on the solskin? Are they even comparable in price? If the price doesn't make sense, who cares which ones more efficient.

They are about the same price when the same amount of LED's are used, the difference with the solskin is they are available with 3 options, 288 LED's for one channel, 576 leds for 2 channels and on the 3 channel option they have 576 mid powers and 99pcs of 1616 power LED's. You can also choose the colours you want on each channel to make things according to your requirements.

TEKNIK said:

They are about the same price when the same amount of LED's are used, the difference with the solskin is they are available with 3 options, 288 LED's for one channel, 576 leds for 2 channels and on the 3 channel option they have 576 mid powers and 99pcs of 1616 power LED's. You can also choose the colours you want on each channel to make things according to your requirements.

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What are the dimensions of the solskins?

300mm X 300mm I think, it's close to that anyway. I like the solstrips better than the solskins as you can space them out better for a more even coverage and still get the tuning flexibility.

TEKNIK said:

300mm X 300mm I think, it's close to that anyway. I like the solstrips better than the solskins as you can space them out better for a more even coverage and still get the tuning flexibility.

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And how many LEDs on the strips?

TEKNIK said:

300mm X 300mm I think, it's close to that anyway. I like the solstrips better than the solskins as you can space them out better for a more even coverage and still get the tuning flexibility.

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Damn though, 12"X12"? That's large. Awesome. This true @welight

Airwalker16 said:

And how many LEDs on the strips?

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The strips have 3 channels, 2 channels have 48 3030 mid powers and the third channel 12 1616 power LED's. 96 mid powers total and 12 power leds. The strips are really good for those that want the flexibility of colour control and spread.

I'm curious about strips and boards because I could do to upgrade my current DIY.
I've got 2- 6"wide X 36" long heatsinks with 8 cxb3590's on 2 HLG-240H-C1750B's, powering each series of 4.
I just really want to reuse those 2 drivers and the fixture Ive built.

I've removed the glass lenses so they're just bare cobs and holders now.
Thinking of either putting all 8 cobs on one of the drivers and using the other for strips to go along the outside of the heatsinks where there's some space along the cobs.
Or,
Remove the cobs entirely and just fill the space with boards or strips. But to reuse the drivers it's hard to match something up.
If you got any ideas, let me know.

I don't work for Cutter BTW if anyone wants to know. I do know their products quite well that's all

Airwalker16 said:

@welight so I see you're site has been broken down into somewhat better options.
There's a choice that costs $188.
Is that for 1 single 3 channel strip?
It's still so confusing as every single option displays the same picture.

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Hi AirW, are you talking about Solskins or strips?
Cheers
Mark

I would leave the cobs and drivers alone and just run some strips with another driver. It took you a while to build that and it would be a shame to dismantle it. Looks like it would still be working fine. Maybe add some reds or exotic blues to the overall system

Good morning Mark, are the solskins 300mm X 300mm, I was pretty sure that's what they are but can't see the dimensions of the website.

Airwalker16 said:

Damn though, 12"X12"? That's large. Awesome. This true @welight

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The Solskin was designed to really up the game 12x12''(300mmx300mm) it can come in a 288 led single channel or 576 led 2 channel or with full 99 leds on 3rd channel it becomes 675 leds, off course you dont need to have full 99 leds on channel 3 if you need a more cost effective solution, you can also tie channels together as well if you dont need want tuneability. The 12x12 layout was used to make the light coming out of 4 sides equal, which is why our 4x4 perfect layout kit has so little difference in PPFD over a 4 ft canopy. Solskin is cutting edge in a grow light. You should check my instagram feed. I have an example of two skins with 3 channels, fully tuneable running off a 3 channel Bluetooth driver all running off a single HLG-240 driver
https://www.instagram.com/p/BusBNSFAvMs/

Cheers
Mark

Airwalker16 said:

I'm curious about strips and boards because I could do to upgrade my current DIY.
I've got 2- 6"wide X 36" long heatsinks with 8 cxb3590's on 2 HLG-240H-C1750B's, powering each series of 4.
I just really want to reuse those 2 drivers and the fixture Ive built.

I've removed the glass lenses so they're just bare cobs and holders now.
Thinking of either putting all 8 cobs on one of the drivers and using the other for strips to go along the outside of the heatsinks where there's some space along the cobs.
Or,
Remove the cobs entirely and just fill the space with boards or strips. But to reuse the drivers it's hard to match something up.
If you got any ideas, let me know.View attachment 4306680

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You could do 3 logic pucks at 70w with those drivers. It's what I did with that same driver and I'm really happy with it. May even work on you fixture