Soil help please!

hey im new to growing and i have a VERY low budget but i will be purchasing a 4 pak of 6500k or cool white 23w cfls for my stealth mini grow cabnit i will be growing from seed-harvest under 12/12 hour lighting and growing 2-4 plants at a time 4-5 from seed-first sign of sex then dis card the males but maybe keep one if i dont get alot of females, i will be doing a mini stealth grow and installing a small fan with a carbon filter but my question is i can only get my materials at walmart and i am wondering what soil to get and what one is available at walmart in canada, ontario does anyone no? please help and i need to get the cheapest and best beginner soil if any one can help please leave advice, comments and anything here, check my grow journal in my signature forgot to add that i need the name of the soil and the #-#-# number thx

also +rep for any answers that help thx

i enjoy a mixture of peat moss and perlite about 20$ gets you 5cubic feetish, i'm sure wally world has some other fine soil products, just be wary of miracle grow ones....

I started out the exact same way you did. I'm sure it can be done, but remember to get a soil PH tester, remember that you might be running into problems like spider mites, which i'm pretty sure no wally world products cam safely address. I totally wish you the best of luck and do keep us updated on this! I'm really interested to see how it goes!

ok ill be visiting walmart on friday i believe and i will see what soils they have (i need more mone so i can get soil, a timer, and new light bulbs

ya timers are sorta important haha be a bitch to forget to budget that in

First try this link and see if someone near you sells Pro Mix, if they do get the green bag, organic mix. $8 a bag.

http://www.premierhort.com/eProMix/index.htm

If you have to get soil at walmart, make sure it says safe for seedlings on the package. A lot of soils add fertilizers to themix and some dont say on the package so the only way to be sure is if it says safe for seedlings. After your plants are a month old they should be old enough to be transplanted into the other soils if you wish. Otherwise a weak solution of hydro nutes is usually the standard to mix with. Since you want to use Walmart you'll have to see what they carry. Since it will probably be strong I'd start at 1/4 strength nutes to see how it goes, once again after a month, use straight water for the first 4 weeks. Hope that helps you out.

la9 said:

First try this link and see if someone near you sells Pro Mix, if they do get the green bag, organic mix. $8 a bag.

http://www.premierhort.com/eProMix/index.htm

If you have to get soil at walmart, make sure it says safe for seedlings on the package. A lot of soils add fertilizers to themix and some dont say on the package so the only way to be sure is if it says safe for seedlings. After your plants are a month old they should be old enough to be transplanted into the other soils if you wish. Otherwise a weak solution of hydro nutes is usually the standard to mix with. Since you want to use Walmart you'll have to see what they carry. Since it will probably be strong I'd start at 1/4 strength nutes to see how it goes, once again after a month, use straight water for the first 4 weeks. Hope that helps you out.

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this helpd me SOOOOO much thx and doesnt the #-#-# number matter? or just get one that says safe for seedlings? and rep+ thanks and i forgot to add 1=rep to the otehr sorry but thanks

DR. GROW GREEN said:

this helpd me SOOOOO much thx and doesnt the #-#-# number matter? or just get one that says safe for seedlings? and rep+ thanks and i forgot to add 1=rep to the others sorry but thanks

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and i forgot to add that that link doesnt havce my city in the province click distrobutors right?

i am going to call walmart once i get the chance and ask if they have any soils for sale and what ones andill write the names down and post here again but what are the #-#-# numbers called? ill ask for those too

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and i forgot to add that that link doesnt havce my city in the province click distrobutors right?

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Looks like they changed things, it doesn't list the place i get mine from anymore, so it's probably best to email them and ask where in your area you can purchase.

Where you'll find it is in a quality greenhouse that is not a chain store, call around different greenhouses in your area and ask if they sell Pro Mix, they will know what you are talking about because it is the soil they will use for all the plants in the greenhouse.

DR. GROW GREEN said:

this helpd me SOOOOO much thx and doesnt the #-#-# number matter? or just get one that says safe for seedlings? and rep+ thanks and i forgot to add 1=rep to the otehr sorry but thanks

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The #-#-# number is what is listed for fertilizer and I haven't seen it listed on soil mixes. You'll have to read thru threads or get someone to answer what to use because I use organic hydro nutes, so I have no idea what you will find at walmart.

On the soil mix make sure it says safe for seedlings and you are good to go. As you start reading the bags you'll soon realize there aren't many that say that or you'll find some labeled as seedling mix. that's what you want.

Hey bro I advise you get soil from a hydro shop or a gardening center, it could be cheaper and better quality if you look hard enough.

I've heard great things about Promix.

Get soil that has a higher Nitrogen mixture(Ex:15-10-10) since for the vegatative state the plants will thrive on nitrogen.

After the first 3-4 weeks when the plants have gotten their first set of true leaves, add like 1/4th strength nutrients to your water mixture, and water every other day.

DON'T overfeed! It's always better to underfeed than overfeed and get nutrient burn.


Cheers

DaBeatGoezOn said:

Hey bro I advise you get soil from a hydro shop or a gardening center, it could be cheaper and better quality if you look hard enough.

I've heard great things about Promix.

Get soil that has a higher Nitrogen mixture(Ex:15-10-10) since for the vegatative state the plants will thrive on nitrogen.

After the first 3-4 weeks when the plants have gotten their first set of true leaves, add like 1/4th strength nutrients to your water mixture, and water every other day.

DON'T overfeed! It's always better to underfeed than overfeed and get nutrient burn.


Cheers

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omg this is EXACATLY what i wantd to hear thx +rep but im doing a organic grow with no nutes just soil and i am going to be running lights on 12/12 from seed-harvest and switching from cool 23w cfls to warm 23w cfls a month after the break of soil i have a gardening center here and its a bit ferther then walmart BUT its not opened until another 2months so im going to use walmart soil and try to harvest by the time it opens and then i will switch the soil but thanks for that +REP

thx i need this too

i didnt call bt i checkd out the online store flyer so i no whats at the store im going to and i found two different soils they say there scotts idk if their good tho and theres only 2 please click this link to check the soils

http://www.walmart.ca/wps-portal/storelocator/InlineLargePreviewNew.jsp?t=1239116770450&eventId=1196&imageId=23509&lang=

click the arrows to change page and turn to page # 22-23
these r the only soils i found on the flyer (scotts lawn soil(will it work?) and scotts pro blends top soil(will it work?) ) please look at these and tell me which is better and which will work thansk again

You don't want top soil, it's thick like mud.

well will that lawn soil be good? or should i search if they sell perlite? or what can u get a walmart to go in besides hydro like soil? perlite? rockwool?

will one of those work becuz thats all the soil i can get my hands on

the #-#-# is called NPK, the first is the amount of nitrogen, the second number si phosphorus and the third number is potassium.

nitrogen for veg, phosphorus and potassium for bud

i new that but i just needed to no what tere calld thx for telling me tho i think im getting the lawn soil from that link in my other post