SOG IT.

StareCase

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... Last day of week 2 flowering phase ... Left side is the mother plant ... all clones in the flood and drain, are taken from the mother ...
Did I correctly comprehend this ... you have a mother plant that is 14 days into 12/12 and you recently took some cuttings from that mother?
 

BecauseIgotHigh

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Did I correctly comprehend this ... you have a mother plant that is 14 days into 12/12 and you recently took some cuttings from that mother?
Yep, I do that all the time. Just at two week on of flower, been doing that for years - following AlBFuct method.
The other batch will be veg for two weeks and placed in here for flowering. I take cuttings from the bottom section.
 

BecauseIgotHigh

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Well I admire anyone who finds a way to grow in sog continuous

I like it:joint:
Thank you, so about another two weeks make another batch, and thats a complete cycle. Well, after something replaces the mom, it be a close to proper cycle on flood and drain trays. Mother is used to fill in one missing tray.

I have to select some clone to become the new mother in the recent batch taken. Might use four and place in a DWC bucket and place them in there for the time being.
 

Thundercat

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Awesome. I am glad you found a method that works for you. Enjoy your grows!!

Curious though ... is that a real thing? Is there a link for it? Cause I always liked to be FUCT too.

Al B fuct is an Old school RIU grower. He taught many of us the benefit and technique to doing perpetual SOG style grows. I followed much of his advice when setting up my perpetual SOG. I ran it for 10 years consistently producing 8-10 oz every 3 weeks under a single 1k hps and a small veg and clone set up. I constantly had 45ish plants in 6 inch square pots full of hydroton in a 4x4 flood tray under my flower light. There were 4 cycles at a time all 3 weeks apart. Depending on genetics yields averaged between 20-25 dried grams per plant. Each clone only got 2-3 weeks veg time, just enough to get solid roots built and then get put into flower about 7-8 inches tall. I removed the bottom set or 2 of side nodes, and encouraged upward single cola growth, but usually there would still end up being 1-2 set of small branches with some nice dense golf ball nugs too.

Zero larf with this kind of system, zero wasted light and veg time growing huge plants with long stems that will never grow bud and just get trimmed up later. The only down side I found after many years of running is that it is constant work to keep a perpetual grow going on a tight time frame. The reward for that work is pretty much constant top shelf harvests though.
 

ComputerSaysNo

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@Thundercat
I like the simplicity, it's pretty much as simple as it gets. I especially like the fact that you go with pure clay pebbles in small pots, that's practically a zero-waste approach. I assume the tray has high walls and you basically flood the pots completely during the flood cycle.

What was the flood/drain schedule that you used, and how often did you swap nutes? Which nutes have you used?

How did you go about cleaning the system if you had a 4x4 tray perpetually filled with plants, though? Did you put the entire crop into a replacement tray?
 

Thundercat

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@Thundercat
I like the simplicity, it's pretty much as simple as it gets. I especially like the fact that you go with pure clay pebbles in small pots, that's practically a zero-waste approach. I assume the tray has high walls and you basically flood the pots completely during the flood cycle.

What was the flood/drain schedule that you used, and how often did you swap nutes? Which nutes have you used?

How did you go about cleaning the system if you had a 4x4 tray perpetually filled with plants, though? Did you put the entire crop into a replacement tray?
Yep it was simple, that's what drew me to it. It was a flood tray that filled 4-6 times a day I tried various things over the years. At some points I changed the res and cleaned it every 2 weeks, and at others it was once a month or so, and I didn't really notice it making a difference. I used a 40gal(maybe 45 I can't remember) reservoir and if I went on vacation the plants were fine for over a week with no attention. Normally I topped off the res about every 3-4 days with several gallons of either nutrient water or just plain tap water depending on how the genetics were eating.

I tried all the GH lines at different points, and I also tried botanicare once. My favorite nutrient is/was one called "envy", it was a simple 2 part that you used from start to finish. It was a vegetable nutrient so it was cheap and it had all the micro and macro nutrients in a great ratio. Sadly it was hard to get and now doesn't seem to be on the market at all any more. So I usually used GH because it was available and worked easy and well.

As for cleaning the tray, I did it every couple months. It really didn't get much build up or anything in it uickly. But when I would clean it I just took the plants out and set the pots on the floor and cleaned the tray then put them back. I tried to time it right before I put a cycle in so I had the least amount of pots to move at the time.
 

BecauseIgotHigh

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@Thundercat
I like the simplicity, it's pretty much as simple as it gets. I especially like the fact that you go with pure clay pebbles in small pots, that's practically a zero-waste approach. I assume the tray has high walls and you basically flood the pots completely during the flood cycle.

What was the flood/drain schedule that you used, and how often did you swap nutes? Which nutes have you used?

How did you go about cleaning the system if you had a 4x4 tray perpetually filled with plants, though? Did you put the entire crop into a replacement tray?
If you have good drainage, flood the table for 2-3min, every 4-6hrs. My pump isn’t on a timer at the moment, sometimes I forget to turn it off, and she gets flooded with water for 8hrs till I turn off the pump to drain. Plants still look like the enjoy it.
You can even pump it once a day.

You can also put in heaps of air stones in the trays, and flood the tray constant, making it into DWC. But you’ll need heaps of air bubbles hitting to all rock cubes, so they don’t drown.

You change nutes every 2 weeks. I check and adjust ppm and pH before flooding the table 5.7-5.8.
Plants in flood and drain are real healthy, no sign of deficiency. After 24hrs pH always rises to 6.6 and about 200ppm less in the res.
I have a nutrient bucket filled up 20L of water and A&B only with PPM at 2500ppm.
When I’m low on the tanks that feed the trays, I top her off from the nutes tank and re-adjust pH and what not.


mother plants has yellow leaves on the bottom section as I forget to feed her and it shows. But now I’m keeping on point, and keeping with the schedule.

AlBFuct uses 2K hps cover 4 3ft by 3ft flood. 1K covering 2trays. He pulls every 2 weeks. About 1.5lb each tray. 4 res 100L each. All pumped to 1400ppm canna brand nutes. He trims the 2/3 of the bottom and grow single colas nugs. I’m sure he s running Co2 aswell and H2o2.

He doesn’t use clay pellets in his system but grow cubes in square pots. So he minimise the cleaning work at the end of each cycle.

I will change to that medium surely after to minimise the work. Or just get white sheets over the trays, so we can remove the use of clay pellets, and keep only 4in Rockwell cubes in the tray alone.

I have never reach to the 5th tray, and gone perpetual.
 

BecauseIgotHigh

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Awesome. I am glad you found a method that works for you. Enjoy your grows!!

Curious though ... is that a real thing? Is there a link for it? Cause I always liked to be FUCT too.
Old thread, he’s picture of his journal were all lost.
 
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