So you think you deserve $15/hr. at Mc-Donald's? Meet your replacement.

bu$hleaguer · Jun 24, 2015

abandonconflict said:
Neither do you. That's painfully obvious.

Actually I do, I live it every day.

abandonconflict · Jun 24, 2015

kelly4 said:
How?

People volunteer to work there.

People pay to eat there.

Where is the hurt?

Yeah, people love working at McDonald's. They don't apply because they're broke .They take fucking pride in that shit. Kids dream of growing up one day to work there. It's completely voluntary, not at all because they're broke.

abandonconflict · Jun 24, 2015

bu$hleaguer said:
Not sure how, but if that's true then sweet.

Because you don't know what aggregate demand is.

bu$hleaguer · Jun 24, 2015

abandonconflict said:
They don't. They lead to massive increases in employment. This is because, as you are aware but our mouthbreathing friends failed to learn in their business classes in college, aggregate demand is the primary market force fueling growth. As working class people have more money to spend, they spend it, this means merchants sell far more goods and services. As they sell more, suppliers rush to resupply them, leading to employment growth in every sector.

Oh it's easy then, we're all set! What was I worrying about then? I guess it work as well as the stimulus plan Obama had then. When we all got cash it fixed everything immediately.

abandonconflict · Jun 24, 2015

bu$hleaguer said:
fucking hilarious that you think some dude at mcd's is worth that much money

Why put price tags on people?

bu$hleaguer · Jun 24, 2015

abandonconflict said:
Why put price tags on people?

It's called capitalism, comrade

abandonconflict · Jun 24, 2015

bu$hleaguer said:
Oh it's easy then, we're all set! What was I worrying about then? I guess it work as well as the stimulus plan Obama had then. When we all got cash it fixed everything immediately.

abandonconflict · Jun 24, 2015

bu$hleaguer said:
It's called capitalism, comrade

I agree, that's exactly what capitalism does.

MuyLocoNC · Jun 24, 2015

ttystikk said:
Really? Why not? McDonald's expects their workers to basically run their life around being an employee, I definitely think McDonald's can damn well pay a fair and living wage.

Again: WHY NOT? Do these people deserve less? Are they by definition stupid, and thus not worthy of getting a fair return on their investment of time? Where does it end?

No, they don't, they expect them to act like an employee WHILE THEY'RE ON THE CLOCK. No more, no less.

To the rest, in order.

Common sense. Yes. Yes. It's already MORE than fair. It ends in our wallets, where ALL Progressive lunacy ends.

MuyLocoNC · Jun 24, 2015

abandonconflict said:
Yeah, people love working at McDonald's. They don't apply because they're broke .They take fucking pride in that shit. Kids dream of growing up one day to work there. It's completely voluntary, not at all because they're broke.

It's not voluntary because they're broke? They can join the military, become homeless, invent a great product and pitch it on Shark Tank, starve, become a thief, apply at other businesses, trick or just sit on the gub'ment dole. Lots of options. If you signed on the line that is dotted, it was voluntary.

schuylaar · Jun 24, 2015

bu$hleaguer said:
Yeah, but that's not McDonald's job. They're not the employees mom. They exist to make fucking burgers, not to put a roof over little Jane's head, right? Why do people assume that it's the job of the employer to make a good life for the employee? That's silly. It's the job of the individual to live within their means and to do whatever they need to do to live the way they want to live, right?

Yes they are responsible they acknowledge this through sample we budget of 80 hours and SNAP.

Brace yourself ..that's called redistribution.

abandonconflict · Jun 24, 2015

MuyLocoNC said:
No, they don't, they expect them to act like an employee WHILE THEY'RE ON THE CLOCK. No more, no less.

To the rest, in order.

Common sense. Yes. Yes. It's already MORE than fair. It ends in our wallets, where ALL Progressive lunacy ends.

So you would rather pay for foodstamps than for full time workers to have a living wage which would be amazing for the economy...

You seem to have delusions of adequacy.

theexpress · Jun 24, 2015

Uncle Ben said:
Total bullshit, there are more jobs than people willing or able to work, at least here in Texas. Where I live we have a labor shortage, no real unemployment.

During Obama's reign as King the job market has gone to hell compared to the Clinton and Bush years. Folks have given up looking for work, and why not? The incentive to work and better yourself must come from within and is usually a result of good parenting at home. That incentive to work has been eliminated by the socialist government. Same with savings.

Most can not pass a drug test and if they can, have no work ethic. They want a job, but don't want to work.

Texas is doing well because the friendly cheap bizzness atmosphere.. also lots of people moving to Texas which creates new tax revenue.. also there is a pool of young educated workforce probably not were Ur from but more so in Austin Dallas and Houston. But understand this. In Texas especially small town outside big cities u can live on 13/15 an hour. But in most of America u can't..

sheskunk · Jun 24, 2015

Thanks Obama!

MuyLocoNC · Jun 24, 2015

abandonconflict said:
So you would rather pay for foodstamps than for full time workers to have a living wage which would be amazing for the economy...

You seem to have delusions of adequacy.

I know better. Lived it.

I don't need a Progressive "study" conducted by like-minded lib stooges to explain how labor costs doubling wouldn't cripple most businesses. The pie in the sky promises from Progressives about their "peer reviewed" agenda typically sound like rainbows and jelly beans, but end up being boondoggles that ALWAYS fall flat on their figurative face, cost 10-100X more than projected, solve nothing, exacerbate the problem and conveniently create shiny new problems for Proressive pearls of wisdom to tackle.

Ends justify the means. If you heard it out of the mouth of a lib, it's either an intentional lie or a naive delusion, at best. There are scant exceptions.

abandonconflict · Jun 24, 2015

Would you try to sell a product geared toward working class consumers in a region where working class people had no money to spare?

So as has been pointed out earlier in the thread, there is no need for hypothetical bullshit and speculation. Denmark has a minimum wage that is almost triple that of the US. Yet the products offered by mcd's in Denmark are only slightly more expensive.

What hasn't been pointed out is that McDonald's Denmark has seen a rise in profits.

http://www.icenews.is/2014/06/07/mcdonalds-denmark-sees-rise-in-profits/

McDonald’s Denmark sees rise in profits

9:49 am June 7, 2014

McDonald’s Denmark has revealed that profits in the Scandinavian country have risen, and that the group is now considering opening new outlets in a number of different locations.

The chain witnessed revenue rise by 10 per cent in 2013, from 465m kroner in 2012 to 511m kroner. Meanwhile profits increased by 5.1 per cent to 85.4m kroner, having been at 81.2m kroner the previous year.

McDonald’s Denmark’s own restaurants generated 341m kroner and its franchises brought in a further 170m kroner in rental fees. McDonald’s Denmark owns 18 of the 88 outlets in the Scandinavian country. Combined, the 88 restaurants recorded sales of a little over 1.9bn kroner – a 10 per cent rise on 2012. Profits were up by five per cent.

It's only evidence though, keep spamming hypothetical bullshit and speculation with all that hyperbole and "yeah but you never owned a business". Don't let facts get in the way of a good story.

MuyLocoNC · Jun 24, 2015

abandonconflict said:
So you would rather pay for foodstamps than for full time workers to have a living wage which would be amazing for the economy...

You seem to have delusions of adequacy.

First off, I reject your entire premise.

Secondly, I'm more of an end food stamps, unemployment, welfare, Medicaid type guy. You're trying to tug on heartstrings that are tuned to reject liberal guilt trips. You wanna take some of those trillions we would recoup and feed and support just the children, fine by me. As for the adults, fuck them. Work or starve, succeed or fail. Take responsibility for your plight, I'm sure as hell not going to do it for you.

abandonconflict · Jun 24, 2015

MuyLocoNC said:
First off, I reject your entire premise.

Swell argument. You have thoroughly convinced the internet that aggregate demand doesn't exist.

:clap:

MuyLocoNC · Jun 24, 2015

abandonconflict said:
Would you try to sell a product geared toward working class consumers in a region where working class people had no money to spare?

So as has been pointed out earlier in the thread, there is no need for hypothetical bullshit and speculation. Denmark has a minimum wage that is almost triple that of the US. Yet the products offered by mcd's in Denmark are only slightly more expensive.

What hasn't been pointed out is that McDonald's Denmark has seen a rise in profits.

http://www.icenews.is/2014/06/07/mcdonalds-denmark-sees-rise-in-profits/

It's only evidence though, keep spamming hypothetical bullshit and speculation with all that hyperbole and "yeah but you never owned a business". Don't let facts get in the way of a good story.

Lolz @ McDonalds. The true measure of all economic theories. We should go down this suicidal path cause, you know, McDonalds...Denmark. Wow.

But, you should move to Denmark. I fully support Socialists and the ilk like them, moving to countries that exemplify their beliefs. Aloha and happy trails.

MuyLocoNC · Jun 24, 2015

abandonconflict said:
Swell argument. You have thoroughly convinced the internet that aggregate demand doesn't exist.

You're right, we should just double EVERYBODY'S wage, all our financial problems would be solved. And the price of all foods, goods and services will remain the same. Got it. Thanks for the peek into the insanity that fuels liberals.

Noticed you didn't address the other portion of my post. The liberal bullshit train derails the instant you take away the power of their guilt trip.

So you think you deserve $15/hr. at Mc-Donald's? Meet your replacement.

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