so i found out adam and eve was bullshit

is christ bullshit ?

  • yes

    Votes: 18 72.0%
  • no absolutely not !!

    Votes: 7 28.0%

  • Total voters
    25

The-Budster

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it was in reference to the bible not being written by god and therefore can be wrong. It would be like saying I want to debate you on man made global warming, but both sides can only use David Suzuki quotes.
Sure I can see where you come from, it has the ability to have different meanings hence the Catholic church difers from Protestant movements due to corruption and translation differences, both human flaws.

However I don't really see that just because a few translations have the potential to be wrong that faith in the whole message of the bible has to also be false along with it.

There is a bigger picture, bear in mind this is a collection of books with some being thousands of years apart. There is nothing quite like it as such.

Just because it's not written by God themself does not take any credibility away or then surely I'm not really sure if Steve Jobs did what he did or even exists if I only had to go on his Biography. That was written by someone else at the request of Jobs. If you never had Internet or TV and only his Biography then someone sparks up a discussion about him you would paraphrase from the book right? Putting in all faith to the writter after all he could have made it all up. Storys sell after all.

Why though? It's a man made book after all.

My point is that there is a waaaayyy bigger picture. Multiple authors, countless years of experience in those areas at the times. Different walks of life from each author. Yet most people think they can shoot down the whole meaning of the book with a paraphrase here and there and an out of touch comparison.
 

Dalek Supreme

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Ah but this was way before Christ. Around 1440 years before....

I know I quoted a book that was around the same time, it was a quick look up to try justify my point but made me realise.

Anyone that follows a book written 1440 years before Christ cannot really follow what Christ himself said. As Love your neighbour and forgive all debts cannot fit the old testament. There for these people are probably not Christian as such...
I can qoute NT verses post supposed life of Jesus that reinforces slavery. The thing is these verses are considered pseudographical Pauline letters. What Paul says in the Epistles that most scholars consider authentic is this one verse:

1 Corinthians 7:19-24Revised Standard Version (RSV)

"19 For neither circumcision counts for anything nor uncircumcision, but keeping the commandments of God. 20 Every one should remain in the state in which he was called. 21 Were you a slave when called? Never mind. But if you can gain your freedom, avail yourself of the opportunity.22 For he who was called in the Lord as a slave is a freedman of the Lord. Likewise he who was free when called is a slave of Christ. 23 You were bought with a price; do not become slaves of men. 24 So, brethren, in whatever state each was called, there let him remain with God."
 

iHearAll

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im not a Christian obviously. well obvious to everyone that has read what i posted except you somehow. yea no grower here..... wtf are you even doing???
 

iHearAll

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this newb came running into RIU with his dick in hand. turns out his dick was hard on for himself and wanted him to bash on what he thinks are good wholesome christains. lololololol. you ever kill your own food kid? bleed out 20 chickens in a row and save their blood for compost? maybe some ducks while you're at it? feed an orphanage? probably not. you're probably laying on your back trying to get your penis to reach your mouth :fire::fire::fire::fire::fire:
 

primabudda

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you ever kill your own food kid? bleed out 20 chickens in a row and save their blood for compost?
grr !!

am dead ha ha !!


ok mister fun over, lets get serious with the questions.



what is a flying spaghetti monster ? and how ? (you can quote back to it if your want) did we get here ? to you been picked on for brainwashing stuff ? how did we get here ?
 

iHearAll

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What if it was a flying spaghetti monster on a blue background up against a blue gridded wall ? What then?

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then its a white speghetti monster on a blue background... right? is this a cognitive test? i mean shit that's how I read these books. if everyone has there own idea of God then we are to respect them for their beliefs right? if god is a fictional and sarcastic speghetti monster then we are to assume the person understands there is no manifestation of God. but maybe misses that they themself are still speaking about the force that controls everything, including the force in their mind that says "hey, me, God's not out there in the world other than what we make of it". i mean, they aren't suggesting the force in control of everything IS the speghetti monster but are displaying that they are free from picking a side on naming God or even really caring what God does. because really it doesnt matter. i only ever chose to learn about what these people consider to be God when i started traveling the world. i realized i dont speak their language but the people i wanted to communicate with were the people promoting goodness. ill always suggest staying away from the snake religion salesmen because they clearly are after something from you. money, your soul, idk maybe some game being played in their head like the people holding signs saying the end is near and to repent. that's just silly. give us an explanation.

@primabudda i think we got here because i can safely tie morallity to many teachings from really old texts. history is real so the people that believed in moral code were real. they wanted to share moral code so they wrote fictional but entertaining books including their idea of God. of course when you add God into a book it gets real complicated for the masses and politics throws away the morality. you could write your own books of you wanted. your creativity will exhibit what you believe a God should do versus what they would do. not that the God you just made up is sitting up in space in reality, some people may believe that you believe that but you would know otherwise. follow?
 

The-Budster

Well-Known Member
I can qoute NT verses post supposed life of Jesus that reinforces slavery. The thing is these verses are considered pseudographical Pauline letters. What Paul says in the Epistles that most scholars consider authentic is this one verse:

1 Corinthians 7:19-24Revised Standard Version (RSV)

"19 For neither circumcision counts for anything nor uncircumcision, but keeping the commandments of God. 20 Every one should remain in the state in which he was called. 21 Were you a slave when called? Never mind. But if you can gain your freedom, avail yourself of the opportunity.22 For he who was called in the Lord as a slave is a freedman of the Lord. Likewise he who was free when called is a slave of Christ. 23 You were bought with a price; do not become slaves of men. 24 So, brethren, in whatever state each was called, there let him remain with God."
I'm not sure where that is stating that slavery is fine. We are of course discussing a book that has been up for debate for thousands of years and sadly has led to people causing harm to one a other despite the message of the new testament advising against. So I do see how people have come to different conclusions but reinforces?

I'm not seeing how it reinforces that at all (slavery existence, sure! But encouraging, No!) and it's that sort of paraphrase and with a bit of reading only what you to see thrown in that causes the wrong understanding of the whole picture as that's what is going here I think.

Anyway your paraphrase and I will call it that as I choose to only recognise the King James Version of the Bible does not condone slavery.

I see it as stating that you should not become the slaves of men but should become the servant of god.

For those who are truly "free" must be a servant to the Lord God.
 

primabudda

Well-Known Member
then its a white speghetti monster on a blue background... right? is this a cognitive test? i mean shit that's how I read these books. if everyone has there own idea of God then we are to respect them for their beliefs right? if god is a fictional and sarcastic speghetti monster then we are to assume the person understands there is no manifestation of God. but maybe misses that they themself are still speaking about the force that controls everything, including the force in their mind that says "hey, me, God's not out there in the world other than what we make of it". i mean, they aren't suggesting the force in control of everything IS the speghetti monster but are displaying that they are free from picking a side on naming God or even really caring what God does. because really it doesnt matter. i only ever chose to learn about what these people consider to be God when i started traveling the world. i realized i dont speak their language but the people i wanted to communicate with were the people promoting goodness. ill always suggest staying away from the snake religion salesmen because they clearly are after something from you. money, your soul, idk maybe some game being played in their head like the people holding signs saying the end is near and to repent. that's just silly. give us an explanation.

@primabudda i think we got here because i can safely tie morallity to many teachings from really old texts. history is real so the people that believed in moral code were real. they wanted to share moral code so they wrote fictional but entertaining books including their idea of God. of course when you add God into a book it gets real complicated for the masses and politics throws away the morality. you could write your own books if you wanted. your creativity will exhibit what you believe a God should do versus what they would do. not that the God you just made up is sitting up in space in reality, some people may believe that you believe that but you would know otherwise. follow?
no i don't follow sir, i'm too stoned to understand anything atm ...... but wait what ! ?


i could write a book on life as i think it happened, and say god is an egg ? i could do that ?
 

The-Budster

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no i don't follow sir, i'm too stoned to understand anything atm ...... but wait what ! ?


i could write a book on life as i think it happened, and say god is an egg ? i could do that ?
Yeah but if God is an egg....what laid it?......

The whole chicken and the egg situation haha
 
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