smoothie meal?

stupid idea?

  • Yes, definitely stupid. I know about this stuff

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  • lol stupid i read you give bottled nutrient not actual things to feed plants

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  • Interesting, hopefully someone knows if this works

    Votes: 2 66.7%
  • Great idea! And heres why..

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CannaOnerStar

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I started wondering about the use of cannabis leafs for nutrients and i guess you could brew a tea from them like from any other plant. But i started wondering about the use of fresh leafs that have been made to a smoothie with a blender. My guess is that the leafs contain tons of nitrogen and i read that banana peels contain hefty amounts of P, K and Mg. So why not add some banana peels into the smoothie as well? Or perhaps some other plant material blended, or using nettle leafs instead of cannabis leafs?

I understand that the plant matter needs to decompose in order for it to be used as nutrients by the plant, but would not this plant matter decompose in the soil as well? Or is the problem with this that you would need to add so much of it that it would end up creating mould and block up aeration in the soil? This would also give the microbial life something to much on and grow from as well, even if it wold be used in small amounts hat are not high enough to give full feed for the plant. But maybe it could help to maintain better base nutrient level for a while?

Im thinking this with coco biotabs or soil-coco mix with biotabs mixed when the soil is prepared OR feeding this a bit during mid to late vegging and during mid-late flowering with more banana compared to leaf for more p, k and mg.


Are there some reasons why this would not work? Naturally it would require a medium that has proper microbial life.

Or maybe it could work in combination with feeding some enzymes after a while after giving it the smoothie feed, even if there were no proper microbial life? And ofc i dont mean that you would feed this all the time, but maybe give one to few treatments at proper places of growth or/and when preparing the medium.
 

My Name is Mike

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Man, it's really hard to follow when someone vomits a bunch of words in a thread going in 30 directions.

I read smoothie and I immediately think, human consumption... or are you talking about using leftover remnants of your plants to make a compost? You keep saying tea but I'm assuming you're thinking about trying to make some beast nutrient drink to pour over your plants? Short answer, no. You can use what you mentioned but they must be decomposed properly in order for them to be used as nutrients or feed for plants.

I compost a lot for outdoor food garden, ex. Grass clippings, leaves, twigs, banana peels, orange peels etc. I even chop up my christmas tree each year and bury it in my garden.
 

CannaOnerStar

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Man, it's really hard to follow when someone vomits a bunch of words in a thread going in 30 directions.

I read smoothie and I immediately think, human consumption... or are you talking about using leftover remnants of your plants to make a compost? You keep saying tea but I'm assuming you're thinking about trying to make some beast nutrient drink to pour over your plants? Short answer, no. You can use what you mentioned but they must be decomposed properly in order for them to be used as nutrients or feed for plants.

I compost a lot for outdoor food garden, ex. Grass clippings, leaves, twigs, banana peels, orange peels etc. I even chop up my christmas tree each year and bury it in my garden.
Put leafs in blender like you would make a smoothie from them, but instead of you drinking it, give it to plants as is without composting or anything(let them compost in the pot and use enzymes or microbial life to do this). Maybe add banana peels because they contain P, K and Mg, as leafs most likely are N heavy.

Idea is to more feed the microbial life more than trying to get NPK directly out of the smoothie, if it would slow release NPK in tiny amounts to support the nutriment feed a bit, that would be great.

I dont think it was such a bad pile of word womit.. I could do much better :D


Ps. This thinking came from me realising that my autopot is filled with coco and biotabs and i read that if the biotabs runs out(for example due to really long veg), there is nothing for the microbial life to much on and to release nutrients. Thats why people recommend soil-coco mix with this, but i read it too late as other places say that coco is fine, but fail to say this important thing about biotabs running out potentially in coco and not leaving any food in there.

So if i would drop a smoothie in the autopot in this situation for example. Do you know what would happen? Also could this idea be applied elsewhere if it could work in this situation?
 
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My Name is Mike

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It would more than likely attract bugs as it decomposed. Grow mold or fungus and spread disease to your plants. As I shared above, the nutrients from the leaves or peels isn't available until it has decomposed into compost matter. Rotted in other words. Once it breaks down, thats when nutrients are available. You don't want it to decompose as it's sitting on top of your soil surface and rotting underneath your plants. You would want to do this at a separate location or area.

By all means you can do it... but I'm sharing what would potentially happen.
 

CannaOnerStar

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It would more than likely attract bugs as it decomposed. Grow mold or fungus and spread disease to your plants. As I shared above, the nutrients from the leaves or peels isn't available until it has decomposed into compost matter. Rotted in other words. Once it breaks down, thats when nutrients are available. You don't want it to decompose as it's sitting on top of your soil surface and rotting underneath your plants. You would want to do this at a separate location or area.

By all means you can do it... but I'm sharing what would potentially happen.
Yea i know this, but the idea with blending and not giving it all the time and huge amounts is that you could have it go inside the soil and the idea would not be to saturate the soil too much with decomposing matter, but just a tiny bit to feed the microbial life.
 

My Name is Mike

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Yeah, not sure I can help further since you already know all that. Good luck man.

Plants don't eat the way humans do. Your smoothie idea is not making sense to me for plant absorption.
 

CannaOnerStar

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Yeah, not sure I can help further since you already know all that. Good luck man.

Plants don't eat the way humans do. Your smoothie idea is not making sense to me for plant absorption.
Yea the idea is to feed microbial life, not plant directly. Bottled kelp you have for example is basically a seaweed smoothie, i dont think it is composted in any way.

Or maybe it could be a better idea to just throw water and leafs in blender, not blend it so much, let it sit for a day or two, filter and feed to plants? Im not interested in brewing teas so much as wanting to get rid of extra leafs :D I know brewing compost teas would be best option, but im not after all that hassle etc
 

CannaOnerStar

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Yeah mah man, I get your idea. It still requires decomposition or bacteria to grow.

Here, I hope this link helps you. I ran a quick search to see if it can be explained better than me.

Okay thanks, ill check that link

Btw do you know if bacteria in this can decompose this stuff or do they eat only some already decomposed to some point?

I also use this myco

It could be some different bacteria that need to decompose stuff first, i have no idea, thats why i need to ask :D

From my understanding the enzyme products you have, like advanced nutrient sensizym are those enzymes from bacteria that break down this organic matter to nutrients that plants can use and their idea is to replace the soil bacterias decompositions process. This is why they can be used to clean used coco coir for example, they eat away all organic residue and turn them to nutrients
 

xtsho

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You could use the cannabis leaves to make FPJ "fermented plant juice". Look into Korean Natural Farming. All those microbe and bacteria products are easy to make basically for free. All you need is a container, a potato, and some decaying leaves from under a tree. JADAM Microorganism Solution (JMS).




The JADAM method of gardening developed by Youngsang Cho. I'm switching to a combination of Korean Natural Farming and JADAM next year in my garden. Going 100% sustainable organic.


 
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