Smallest Auto Plants available for low yield stealth grows

midnightmix

Member
Planning to do some tiny plants due to space restrictions, a tight budget and i go through maybe 1-2grams a month max. A 1/4oz lasts me about 4-5 months lol.

Through my research the following are plants that seem to grow small, I'm looking at whatever will grow 15in and under, with minimal to no scrog.

Lowryder
Lowryder #2
Diesel Ryder
Easy Ryder
Minigun
Mdanzig's Master Low

Which other Auto varieties grow under 15in?

For the curious, I will be following a similar grow route as VerdanGreen's successful 28W LED grow journal

Once I pick a strain and get the ball rolling, I'll post a detailed journal
 

tip top toker

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Why bother with autos? Photoperiod plants can easily be grown to exactly the same size or smaller. You simply trim or train and grow 12/12 from seed. When it comes to growing indoors i've never been given a single valid reason for growing autoflowering pants.
 

er0senin

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Why bother with autos? Photoperiod plants can easily be grown to exactly the same size or smaller. You simply trim or train and grow 12/12 from seed. When it comes to growing indoors i've never been given a single valid reason for growing autoflowering pants.
i agree with you BUT if you only have 1 space for both flower and veg like me, its nice to throw in 2-3 auto's while vegging then swapping to 12/12 when chopping since i have my plants big enough by then :). but any other case other than outdoor growing in cold climates i agree
 

tip top toker

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My point being that if you are considering auto's., then don't bother, just do exactly the same but with photoperiod. There is no veg state, the light is always on 12/12 and the plats essentially act exactly the same as an auto. There are folk who don't have size restrictions who grow predominantly in this manner. For me though it is simply the selectoin which would put me off ever growing more auto's, considering you can have pretty much the identical growing experience from ease to size etc, why would you opt to cut out 99% of available strains from what you'd be able to grow. /While there are now some fairly good autoflowering strains out there, the strains available for photoperiod plants just sttomp all over autoflower. /and did i mention you can get a male and a female and not have to buy a seed ever again? Autoflowers you gotta buy a seed for every plant every time. I gave hundreds of seeds away that i had gained through popping a male in my cupboard and as a result was in turn donated handfuls of seeds from other folk so for absolutely nothing i now have about 20 potentially kick ass strains :)
 

hotrodharley

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Consider Greenhouse Seeds' Green-O-Matic. Ruderalis X Moroccan X White Dwarf X Low Rider. I agree with those advocating regular photoperiods and then manipulate. I think a better high with photos but you have your reasons. Good luck!
 

Cheifin420

Active Member
I started 12/12 from seed AND LST'd (due to height restrictions.) Kept her under 1 ft tall. Harvested early but I got about 8g dried. I know its a minimal harvest but I put 1 seed in a modified Aerogarden 3 and it produced. Im getting ready to start my AG EXTRA now.

*Note* not an autoflowering seed
 

bigsteve

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" When it comes to growing indoors i've never been given a single valid reason for growing autoflowering pants."
I'm assuming that's a typo in the last word and not some new fashion trend.

1. If you have a veg room running forever like I do it is smart to fill empty spots with autos. The lights are going to be running anyway
and the price I pay for feminized auto beans is a fraction of the value of the "free" autos I harvest.
2. An all auto grow is perfect for beginners, eh? You don't have to know when to switch lights, switching nutes, or even how to sex. Most
auto grows of mine are finished in 60 days. Sure can't say that about most of those other 99% of varities.
3. Finding a quality auto like Afghan Kush Ryder from World of Seeds via Attitude and you get 20+% THC levels AND all the ease of auto growing.
4. Orders of autos tend to be more phenotypically similiar than non-autos. Means 10 AKR plants will grow in a smaller range than non-autos. That's
a good thing if you want to set up a sog or scrog grow. The less variability within a strain means it's easier to keep all of them about the same size.
5. Uh, I had a couple more but put some of my legacy AKR into a homemade mahogany pipe and forgot what I was going to say.

Autos are not the growers' salvation like some profess, but not having ruderalis in your repetoir seems short-sighted to me.

BigSteve.
 

tip top toker

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" When it comes to growing indoors i've never been given a single valid reason for growing autoflowering pants."
I'm assuming that's a typo in the last word and not some new fashion trend.

1. If you have a veg room running forever like I do it is smart to fill empty spots with autos. The lights are going to be running anyway
and the price I pay for feminized auto beans is a fraction of the value of the "free" autos I harvest.
2. An all auto grow is perfect for beginners, eh? You don't have to know when to switch lights, switching nutes, or even how to sex. Most
auto grows of mine are finished in 60 days. Sure can't say that about most of those other 99% of varities.
3. Finding a quality auto like Afghan Kush Ryder from World of Seeds via Attitude and you get 20+% THC levels AND all the ease of auto growing.
4. Orders of autos tend to be more phenotypically similiar than non-autos. Means 10 AKR plants will grow in a smaller range than non-autos. That's
a good thing if you want to set up a sog or scrog grow. The less variability within a strain means it's easier to keep all of them about the same size.
5. Uh, I had a couple more but put some of my legacy AKR into a homemade mahogany pipe and forgot what I was going to say.

Autos are not the growers' salvation like some profess, but not having ruderalis in your repetoir seems short-sighted to me.

BigSteve.
1. if i have a veg room then i will fill it with vegging plants to make larger flowering plants. If i'm going to be filling it with auto;s that will be flowering out then i might as well just make the whole veg cupboard or room a flowering room.

2. if the idea of changing a timer and changing nutes is complicated for a new grower to get along well then they probably should not be growing in the first place. It is very very easy to follow the instructions written on the back of the bottle and turn the timer to 12/12 whenever you feel like. This though is working on the assumption that the grower is not lazy and useless and has actually read even the smallest bit about how to grow cannabis. I mean sexing cannabis requires looking at one google photo to understand that it is about as black and white as it comes. Hairs or balls, they are pretty distinct in their differences.

3. So you bought an auto that has 20%, now you have to go out and buy another, and another, and another, with photoperiod you can keep a clone on a windowsill or simply make a few hundred seeds, seems a complete waste of money, and as to the ease, see the above point, the notion of an auto being easier to grow is simply highlighting the sheer hopelessness of a grower. Cannabis is not difficult to grow in any small way, in fact i never in my wildest dreams would have thought it would be so piss easy, it grows itself.

4. this is a subject that can be debated either way. If you research your breeder then you can find photo plants that will have a steady and regular set of phenotypes, so for instance mr nice gear, and not TGA, and in the same way though, you get a range of phenotypes and it's often the range of phenotypes that allows you to find what might become a clone only based on it's characteristics which you can then clone out and every single one will then be uniform for sog or scrogging. Without the variation of phenotypes things like exodus cheese of las fingerez slh wouuld not potentially exist as there would not have been the variation to allow their existence.

Sorry but you're going to have to convince me a bit more for me to go out and start using plants that cost signficantly more money to grow and limit you as they do being an autoflowering plant.
 

Ndodson79605

Active Member
Planning to do some tiny plants due to space restrictions, a tight budget and i go through maybe 1-2grams a month max. A 1/4oz lasts me about 4-5 months lol.

Through my research the following are plants that seem to grow small, I'm looking at whatever will grow 15in and under, with minimal to no scrog.

Lowryder
Lowryder #2
Diesel Ryder
Easy Ryder
Minigun
Mdanzig's Master Low

Which other Auto varieties grow under 15in?

For the curious, I will be following a similar grow route as VerdanGreen's successful 28W LED grow journal

Once I pick a strain and get the ball rolling, I'll post a detailed journal
What's the average yield from these short autos? I am planning to get some fem auto seeds soon to grow in a very small apartment closet, and I'm looking for overall height/yield ratio as well as seed to harvest times. What seed bank did you find these at? And btw, good luck on your grow!
 
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