I have two purple haze outdoors. Been flowering for a few weeks now. Probably more like three. Noticing buds deteriorating all over plants. I have been pulling of buds I know are ruined. I have found very small off white worms inside of those buds. They are about the same color as a grub worm but maybe only 3/16 to a 1/4 inch long and an 1/16 inch wide. They don't look like a bud worm from what I've been reading. Can anyone shed some light on this for me. Not sure if I can save them or not but would like to try. Thank you
Small worms
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thumper60
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lots of kinds of bud worms!!
jbcCT
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Growing outside, it's gonna happen boys. Use BT to kill them young, as The previous poster suggested. The way buds stack, when you harvest you can clip off damage. Now, if the bud is death rotting, cause this got away from you, then clip it off the plant.
I'm of the opinion you rinse all outdoor harvest thoroughly. Two or three 5 gallons buckets, the first with peroxide in it. Your removing dust, flies, etc. Dries perfectly.
I've been going heavy on the BT last few days. Anyone outdoor has too. Once they consume it, that's the last meal. It's a damage control agent.
I'm of the opinion you rinse all outdoor harvest thoroughly. Two or three 5 gallons buckets, the first with peroxide in it. Your removing dust, flies, etc. Dries perfectly.
I've been going heavy on the BT last few days. Anyone outdoor has too. Once they consume it, that's the last meal. It's a damage control agent.
midiot
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My experience....
Tiny organic outdoor grow. 2 plants/phenotypes from the same seed batch, in 12" pots.
One plant (early) is fine, the other (late) has a few moth caterpillars at harvest.
I've found that the caterpillars will continue eating and pooping as it's drying.....until the buds dry-out. Then the Cats either jump-ship (crawl away looking for other food) or go to the pupa (cocoon) stage and stay in the weed.
(lay some white paper under the drying plants, to see signs of poop)
Either way, there will be poop stuck in the sticky buds, and some pupae.
I washed them with baking soda and then weak peroxide, and a clean rinse.
They are drying now......we'll see.
This is only for personal use..... and I may be smoking poop. But at least I didn't use chem ferts or pesticides.
Looking back, I could have used some spinosad one week into flower.
Tiny organic outdoor grow. 2 plants/phenotypes from the same seed batch, in 12" pots.
One plant (early) is fine, the other (late) has a few moth caterpillars at harvest.
I've found that the caterpillars will continue eating and pooping as it's drying.....until the buds dry-out. Then the Cats either jump-ship (crawl away looking for other food) or go to the pupa (cocoon) stage and stay in the weed.
(lay some white paper under the drying plants, to see signs of poop)
Either way, there will be poop stuck in the sticky buds, and some pupae.
I washed them with baking soda and then weak peroxide, and a clean rinse.
They are drying now......we'll see.
This is only for personal use..... and I may be smoking poop. But at least I didn't use chem ferts or pesticides.
Looking back, I could have used some spinosad one week into flower.
too larry
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@midiot, I wash my bud. Weak H2O2 wash, then a rinse. Lots of crap on there, even if you don't have worms, rot or PM.
My GdR in the spring 16-17 crop was like that. Full of worms. I picked them out of the drying bins for a week. Back then I didn't know what I didn't know.
https://www.amazon.com/Monterey-704596-Caterpillar-Killer-Pesticide/dp/B00ANT611U/ref=asc_df_B00ANT611U/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167116476898&hvpos=1o4&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17266714322728256796&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9011625&hvtargid=pla-309961191261&psc=1
My GdR in the spring 16-17 crop was like that. Full of worms. I picked them out of the drying bins for a week. Back then I didn't know what I didn't know.
https://www.amazon.com/Monterey-704596-Caterpillar-Killer-Pesticide/dp/B00ANT611U/ref=asc_df_B00ANT611U/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167116476898&hvpos=1o4&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17266714322728256796&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9011625&hvtargid=pla-309961191261&psc=1
Dude. This was me today. Tried to move a couple spiders from plant I cut down to my other ones still growing, was successful like 3-5 times. The spiders were the like almost white translucent ones. quick lil fuckers but I appreciate what they do. Also those white worms/caterpillers/budworms whaterver they are suck, Ive had a couple of them ruin some really decent buds. And also budworms suck donkey balls as well, put about 7-12 of them in spiderwebs today (yes I am a petty as fuck person lol, spiderweb seems the most worthy in my eyes) Also yes BT is great I used Monterrey BT, you can tell when its working you will see little dark dead caterpillars on like the end of leaves, I believe they die of hunger which is awesome, fuck those guys. Sorry long post, had a few cold ones and a toke or two.
I like your tips man, i think i will put some white paper underneath my drying crop, thx
midiot
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Because of my small personal grow, I was able to take time trimming at harvest, looking closely for pests.
If I found a dead/brown area on a bud and small silk, this was an obvious caterpillar, and I'd toss that bud away.
From posts above....I never kill typical spiders either. I move them somewhere else...even to my food garden, but some I will leave because they are helpful.
The ones I don't want (and I move), are the type that make a thick funnel-shaped web deep in the leaves/buds. Too much spider silk for my taste.
If I found a dead/brown area on a bud and small silk, this was an obvious caterpillar, and I'd toss that bud away.
From posts above....I never kill typical spiders either. I move them somewhere else...even to my food garden, but some I will leave because they are helpful.
The ones I don't want (and I move), are the type that make a thick funnel-shaped web deep in the leaves/buds. Too much spider silk for my taste.
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midiot
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(420 rant con't)
The good thing was, the occasional caterpillars were the only outdoor pest I encountered during the whole outdoor grow. And they were sparse.
No pesticides used during grow.
Humid ocean air, lots of sun, but overcast mornings too.
(Super Lemon Haze mother, father unknown....trained short and wide)
The good thing was, the occasional caterpillars were the only outdoor pest I encountered during the whole outdoor grow. And they were sparse.
No pesticides used during grow.
Humid ocean air, lots of sun, but overcast mornings too.
(Super Lemon Haze mother, father unknown....trained short and wide)
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