**^^Small mazar clones curling upwards after watering and placing into soil^^**

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skullsmasher

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I have 6 small mazar clones which were fine until the day after I watered them with "general hydroponics FLORAGRO" and placing into small soil filled containers which the day after, they became brownish and the leaves started to curl upwards.

I have been leaving them out in the sun all day as soon as it is sunny and bringing them in at night to avoid freezing temps.

The soil seems moist still so I am leaning more towards over watering at this point but, please let me know what you think and what I can do to save these ladies.

I am not tracking the PH or anything at this point. After they are about 1 1/2 feet tall I was going to put them in the ground.
 

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skullsmasher

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What do you guys think about this theory:
Why are my leaves turning brown and crumbly?
I use six 40-watt tubes in a two by four shelf. I use a soil mix with a pH of 6.8 and use half-strength fertilizer every time I water.
I ran into problems with my last crop. The clones and seeds started fine, but when they were 10-12 inches high after four to six weeks, they started getting upward leaf curl and browning of the leaf tips, which then started drying and crumbling. Some remained green but also got this upward curl and crumble. The condition started right below the new growth and spread to the rest of the plant. What was happening?

Perplexed,
Ohio


The plants are dying from over-fertilization. At some point the nutrients in the soil mix became so concentrated that they began to draw water from the plant, leaving the leaves curled and dry.

To solve the problem, flood the soil to dissolve water-soluble salts and drain them from the container. Flood a two-gallon container to at least a gallon of water drain. The drained water can be diluted and used to water outdoor plants. Residual nutrient salts remain in the planting mix. The plants will use these so you can stop fertilizing. Restart only when there is an indication that the plants need additional nutrients. In the future, supply the plants with only one-third to one-half the fertilizer they were previously receiving.
 
CALIGROWN

CALIGROWN

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I would leach the pots and watch your ph...keep it between 6.0 and 7.0 if you can...and go real easy on the nutes for a week or two...imo
 
brasmith

brasmith

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Flush out your pots with plian water. Flushing is when you run water strait through your soil to rinse out the nutes. Looks like they are suffering from nute burn. Good luck
 
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skullsmasher

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I totally think that was the problem especially since I got these new damn posts that have these pop off bottoms I didn't even realize so they weren't draining properly either i assume.
 
Florida Girl

Florida Girl

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skullsmasher said:
I have 6 small mazar clones which were fine until the day after I watered them with "general hydroponics FLORAGRO" and placing into small soil filled containers which the day after, they became brownish and the leaves started to curl upwards.
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OK... I'm new to hydroponics myself so forgive me if this sounds stupid.... but the definition of hydroponics is "Cultivation of plants in nutrient solution rather then soil".

Wouldn't a soil medium be too dense for hydroponic nutrients? I'm guessing you need to change your growing medium or change your nutrients :)
 
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skullsmasher

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Florida Girl said:
OK... I'm new to hydroponics myself so forgive me if this sounds stupid.... but the definition of hydroponics is "Cultivation of plants in nutrient solution rather then soil".

Wouldn't a soil medium be too dense for hydroponic nutrients? I'm guessing you need to change your growing medium or change your nutrients :)
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A-HA!!! Good point, I think the hydro store might have suggested this to me not knowing I am using soil......!!!
 
brasmith

brasmith

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skullsmasher said:
A-HA!!! Good point, I think the hydro store might have suggested this to me not knowing I am using soil......!!!
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Skull,
Wait right there! I am using the same product with my soil grow. The Flora series from General Hydroponics is for both soil and hydro. I have been using the product for my entire grow (flora nova bloom now) and now am into week 6 of flower with zero problems.

You are absolutely fine with the Flora series as it is a great one part series. You do not have to change anything you are using.:mrgreen::peace:

I think the reason your plants had a over nute problem is because they were a bit young when you first gave them the nutes. Usually a good organic soil will have everything a young vegging plant needs for up to 3-4 weeks.

Hope this helps....Kathy
 
brasmith

brasmith

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One more thing....What brand of soil are you using? The reason I ask is because soil quality is major to a young plant's success in life.
 
brasmith

brasmith

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skullsmasher said:
I flushed em out with plain water. Hopefully this helps, if so....I'll post some updated pics.
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The fox farm series is good stuff mmmmm. After the flush you will see a difference within a few days. Glad you came back to the thread before going to the store wew. You are on your way to some healthy green:mrgreen:
 
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skullsmasher

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Were they too young to put in soil? I haven't used the floragrow again since. Only flushed them and haven't watered them yet either, they haven't needed it seemingly.
 
brasmith

brasmith

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Hi Skull,
So lets backup for a second. You say they are clones? Did they have some roots before you transplanted them into soil? If they did not have a nice set of formed roots they cannot take in water from the soil. Go back to misting/folier feeding plain ol water with a spray bottle a few times a day. They can drink water through their leaves until they form some roots. You may also want to cover the plants with a clear dome to create a sort of greenhouse affect this keeps them moist and warm. Keep them on their current lighting cycle.

Your palnts dont look like they are ruined they just need extra tlc right now. Hopefully all your girls will pop back to health soon. Kathy
 
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