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Soil or Hydro?

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    Votes: 21 72.4%
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    Votes: 8 27.6%

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hotrodharley

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Bloom fertilizer has N = 2
Soil mix doesn't have NPK on the pack but it's EC = 2,4 which sounds pretty high for me...
Any advise? Shall I just get any micro formula and moderately add, let's say every second watering?
Really appreciate
2.4? Wow. To be honest I don't know what to advise. I've switched to AN Jungle Juice Micros and Bloom. No Grow. Lucas formula. No more leafy plants, no nitrogen burn. Cal mag every third feeding.
 

Stranger307

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I guess, I've figured out what's happening... the water PH and soil PH are both above 7 :(
Watered with plain water and amended PH w/o any nutes - drainage water had a better PH... hope I didn't overwatered :)
And top leaves kinda getting lighter (yellowish) between veins which could be light or magnesium issue...
 

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swedsteven

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Ph is perfect for soi my friend dont need to ph anything ur soil buffer the ph if using ph up and down ur playing with npk ratio this is a soil make a compost tea !
Ur using organic nute. you need microbe,fungi life in ur organic soil a good compost tea will do so
 

Stranger307

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Ph is perfect for soi my friend dont need to ph anything ur soil buffer the ph if using ph up and down ur playing with npk ratio this is a soil make a compost tea !
Ur using organic nute. you need microbe,fungi life in ur organic soil a good compost tea will do so
I'm a bit worried about top leaves getting brighter kinda yellowish... shall I move light up?..
If it would be mag. deficiency than bottom leaves should have been affected.
 

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swedsteven

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Take a pic off ur nute behind where we see the minimum analyse so u use only one bottle let see what in it

I cannot find nothing on there site lol
 
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Stranger307

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Take a pic off ur nute behind where we see the minimum analyse so u use only one bottle let see what in it

I cannot find nothing on there site lol
Not much info on the bottle though...
Upper leaves are getting brighter daily :(
Since soil had EC 2.4 itself, I doubt it's a lack of nutes...
Roots issue? No idea

Bottle:
Nitrogen 1,9%
Ammonium nitrogen 0,48%
Nitrate 1,5%
Phosphorus 6,9%
Potassium 4,1%
 

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swedsteven

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Not enough nitrogen to much pk were the calcium magnesium .... iron .boron etc nitrogen keep the leaf green

My npk in veg
9-8-13
After mix in water .nutrient bond and this what left
10-3-11

Npk in flow
10-12-21
After mix
12-4-17
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To much pk in ur mix not enought n and pk lock nutrient .
 
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Stranger307

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Watered with 3.5 litres instead of 2 litres as before.
With amended PH.
Got a runoff (wasn't any with 2 litres before) and tested PH - around 6.5 now.
Won't water for the next 72 hours (or until the pot is too light)
Buds are gaining weight, but leaves dont get better, maybe even worse...
I'm a bit afraid to overwater.
Temps got better with new light schedule
 

ANC

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The yellow leaves are not going to get much better, you are still a way from done, so it is important to get shit sorted out so the tiny leaves on there now, develop properly.
 

Stranger307

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The yellow leaves are not going to get much better, you are still a way from done, so it is important to get shit sorted out so the tiny leaves on there now, develop properly.
I try to, but pretty blindly. And i dont want to change several things at once to figure out the root cause.
PH is the focus now and will let soil to dry out properly before the next watering.
Runoff PH level was already much better yesterday
 

ANC

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With soil, your problem is seldom pH. The root can adjust the pH of the soil next to it by as much as 3 points by kicking off H or oH molecules as needed.

Listen to Swedsteven about the nutes... You are at a delicate stage now of the flowering.... what happens in these first weeks dictates the outcome.
 

Stranger307

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With soil, your problem is seldom pH. The root can adjust the pH of the soil next to it by as much as 3 points by kicking off H or oH molecules as needed.

Listen to Swedsteven about the nutes... You are at a delicate stage now of the flowering.... what happens in these first weeks dictates the outcome.
Will get Biobizz Fish mix with NPK 5-1-4 :)
Shall be generally beneficial and complement missing nitrogen
 

Beachwalker

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I guess, I've figured out what's happening... the water PH and soil PH are both above 7 :(
Watered with plain water and amended PH w/o any nutes - drainage water had a better PH... hope I didn't overwatered :)
And top leaves kinda getting lighter (yellowish) between veins which could be light or magnesium issue...
Adjust to and maintain a steady pH of 6.5 for best results, good luck!
 

Stranger307

Member
It seems like new growth suffers just the same way... I still got at least 3 weeks in front of me (maybe more).
Probably I shall water more heavily next time to cleanse the soil a bit...
And with the last watering I amended PH and added FishMix (5-1-4) to add nitrogen.
I've also mixed it and spray on the foliage, is that a good idea during flowering though?..
TBH seems this grow goes wrong :(
 

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Stranger307

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Take a pic off ur nute behind where we see the minimum analyse so u use only one bottle let see what in it

I cannot find nothing on there site lol
Within one day many bud hair became dark... what could does that mean please??
And buds stopped their growth i think, they're pretty small :(
Waited for 4 days to dry out and watered yesterday with PHed water (3.5 l) - with 2 ml per litre of Bloom (P+K) and Fish mix (N+K)
 

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Beachwalker

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I try to, but pretty blindly. And i dont want to change several things at once to figure out the root cause.
PH is the focus now and will let soil to dry out properly before the next watering.
Runoff PH level was already much better yesterday
I don't understand... I measure PH in and out - last watering both were good.
This time the out PH is too high again...
How could it possibly be since the In was PHed properly
What soil are you using and have you calibrated your pH meter recently? (cuz I suspect the pH you think you're using is not what it actually is, jmo)

You can put a tablespoon of Epsom salts in a gallon of water and spray those leaves because they need magnesium but you've got to figure out what you're screwing up with your pH that's causing the issues in the first place?

I use only Apera meters, they start about $45 on Amazon, they're the best investment I've made, and I suspect proper pH would end your issues as well, Best of luck!
 
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