SIP thread -- (Sub-Irrigated Planter)

Humanrob

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Damn, that is a nice set up. Someday I hope to have a version of that... In the autumn were I live we can get 20-25mph winds, and if I make something that stands all year it has to be able to withstand 45-50mph gusts (and sometimes sustained 30mph winds) that we get in the dead of winter. It'll take some time and money, but I hope to get there eventually. The goal would be to run a circuit out to it, and we have natural gas for heat and eventually we'll have it piped out to the yard for a grill, so maybe I can feed off of that for a gas heater in the greenhouse... It's at that point in my daydreaming that I shake my head, step back, and say 'yeah, that ain't gonna happen for a while'.
 
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pinner420

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Humanrob said:
Damn, that is a nice set up. Someday I hope to have a version of that... In the autumn were I live we can get 20-25mph winds, and if I make something that stands all year it has to be able to withstand 45-50mph gusts (and sometimes sustained 30mph winds) we get in the dead of winter. It'll take some time and money, but I hope to get there eventually. The goal would be to run a circuit out to it, and we have natural gas for heat and eventually we'll have it piped out to the yard for a grill, so maybe I can feed off of that for a gas heater in the greenhouse... It's at that point in my daydreaming that I shake my head, step back, and say 'yeah, that ain't gonna happen for a while'.
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Farmtek had a deap selection of reasonably priced green houses. Dont make the mistake of thinking you can build one like I did with this costco car port. You dont know how many special parts they need that you can't get anywhere but farmtek anyway..
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Humanrob

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pinner420 said:
Farmtek had a deap selection of reasonably priced green houses. Dont make the mistake of thinking you can build one like I did with this costco car port. You dont know how many special parts they need that you can't get anywhere but farmtek anyway...
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Thanks, I've worked on farms with various types of greenhouses and I have a pretty good idea of the components and their functions, which is why I haven't started this project yet -- there is a lot to controlling temps and humidity in a space that converts (often daily) from sealed to breathable.

My wife also has aesthetic requirements for what goes into her garden, which adds some challenges for me. So that, and not having something that will blow into the next town (or just blow apart) during a winter 'wind event' will mean I'll probably spend as much time planning this one as actually building it. But that's the fun of it, we'll figure out how to make it work when the time comes.

In the end it will probably be an amalgam of hand built sections (the stone foundation, the post and beam frame) and store bought components (rigid polycarbonate panels, solar vent openers, etc.). I didn't mean to hijack the thread with a greenhouse discussion, sorry to the OP... oh wait, that's me...
 
CaptainSnap

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I haven't posted in here for several months! I was using 20 gallon plastic planters for my flowering DIY SIPS containers. I have made a slight adjustment after several runs with my old set up. I was having inconsistent water issues which caused all sorts of issues. I have now went to 15 gallons and drilled 2.5" holes around the bottoms and lined the interior of the pot with 8 oz weed fabric. Photos are of Vegging SIP Plant (3 Gallon Fabric Pot with a layer of pumice on the bottom) & Upgraded 15 Gallon SIPS Flowering Plant in plastic pot. Strain is Dr. Who:weed:


 
Dryxi

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A question for anyone: Is there anything you put into the water you have in your SIP container or is it just plain water?
 
Humanrob

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Dryxi said:
A question for anyone: Is there anything you put into the water you have in your SIP container or is it just plain water?
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When I first started building them I wasn't very careful about keeping dirt out of the res when I put them together, and one of the ones with a good size res (about 12 gallons) started to smell a bit funky, so I put some Pond-Zyme in the res. After that, I used a hydro product called Hygrozyme, which was a bit expensive but I imagine should do no harm (you just don't want to use too much of it). I will also mention that from day one I've used air stones, so adding oxygen might impact what grows and lives in the water.

I don't have a set up where I can be very scientific about things (multiple sips with "control" groups and experimental groups), so honestly I can't say whether or not those products cleared it up -- it could have just been time. I will say that it did not hurt anything, and if I was concerned about the condition of my res water I would not hesitate to use it again. Totally anecdotal, but that's all I got.
 
projectinfo

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Im building a soma sip box.

How deep would you go?

I heard 18inches is that right?
I see buildasoil has a kit thats only 12deep
 
Greenthumbs256

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I love my home made sip, getting it ready for a new run! cooking soil now and have a cut of gg #4 and a wedding cake cut on the way! so I'm gunna do my sip pot for both and make them mothers, ready to give out tons of babies!!

I have a few questions, last round I did the Alan akkasion(I think that's how u spell it), way, with basically mycelium on top and bottom feed with plain water and em1 only! well I'm out of em1 would it work with just plain water? I would like to tweak this in a few ways but I'm not sure where to start!

first off my girls in this sip, grew faster bigger and stronger than any other plant, (I have air pots, smart pots, and reg plastic) and the sip out did them all! but midway into flower I noticed it lacking in some nutes, I thought about maybe strengthening my mix a Lil, or maybe just top dressing a few amendments before switching to flower then covering that with more compost and make another mycelium layer!

any way, any advise or if something thinks they can help plz let me know I'm looking to perfect this the best I can!!!

pic below is gunna be my set up!
 

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Cali Cajun

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projectinfo said:
For those who are looking to build.

Heres some specs
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Thanks for that - what site did you find these specs on? The other specs I've seen on the Earthbox indicated it had less than 15 gallon soil capacity. If it can actually hold 15 gallons and now has a 3 gallon reservoir, I might like to try it out.
 
Cali Cajun

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Thanks Projectinfo! For my next grow I was hoping to move up to a couple of 20 gallon pots and give no-till a try. I could possibly go down to 15 gallons, but would rather stick with 20 if I can. The problem I'm finding is all the plastic tote SIP options won't fit two containers in my 3' x 3' tent. I'm wondering if I could get away with using my 20 gallon smart pots sitting on the corrugated drain pipe wicks in a shallow 10 gallon tote, like a modified version of the following design from the aldopepper site:

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Greenthumbs256

Greenthumbs256

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hey guys i asked this already, and it possible I missed the reply but...

I'm running a sip pot, with my rols soil!
the only other time I ran this sip, I did the Alan akkasion way, with a black cover on top and grokashi under it,(plenty of mycelium), and I bottom fed with water and em1!!

I no longer have em1!

My question is can I do this same exact set up with just plain water? will the results be close? if not what can I do, what other than water would help replace the em1! bc I had the most successful girl and harvest since I started growing!!!!
 
Greenthumbs256

Greenthumbs256

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also something I've seen and been thinking about!!! I've seen ppl putting air stones in their res, on sip pots!

with using em1, it's anaerobic, so my thoughts is this would be working against each other!

but what if I'm not using em1????
 
projectinfo

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Cali Cajun said:
Thanks Projectinfo! For my next grow I was hoping to move up to a couple of 20 gallon pots and give no-till a try. I could possibly go down to 15 gallons, but would rather stick with 20 if I can. The problem I'm finding is all the plastic tote SIP options won't fit two containers in my 3' x 3' tent. I'm wondering if I could get away with using my 20 gallon smart pots sitting on the corrugated drain pipe wicks in a shallow 10 gallon tote, like a modified version of the following design from the aldopepper site:

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Well i plan on having an anerobic self contained resevoir.

Feed activated labs weekly to keep it clean.

Adding bokashi, castings, compost, marlted barley seed, stuff like that


The box design is from soma .

Its plywood with metal braces to hold it together. Line with plastic. Put growstones or pumice then chicken wire then landscape fabric and a 8 inch netpot of peatmoss to wick the res up.

A 1 inch pipe in the corner slighlty elevated to feed water and labs weekly.

I think il be doing 15 gal singles and a 30gal rectangle for 2 plants for fun.
 
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