SIP thread -- (Sub-Irrigated Planter)

Tstat

Tstat

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So, I was going to create a new thread to document my switch to SIPs and organics in general, but instead I think I'll just post here. Maybe revive this thread a little.

So, to start, I have a couple of decades of hydro under my belt. My last one was a RDWC system based on Current Culture Under Current. Got sick of the maintenance, etc. and was convinced to try SIPs. So here we go!

I started my organic switchover with 4 plants in 10 gallon pots, while I waited to start the SIPs. They are Goji OG, Apollo 11, and a Purple Unicorn/Pure OG cross. I am still vegging them under the screen:

I will flip over to 12/12 in a week or so. I am looking to stagger my SIPs in (The light system expands. Right now I'm only running about 600 watts of cobs/boards). So, with that in mind, here are the SIPs that were planted yesterday. They are Space Monkey and Sunshine Daydream (SSDD). I will elaborate on my soil mix, etc. next post:

I had some yellowing, and they were really pot bound in the 1 gallon pots. Incredibly, they look WAY better today then when I transplanted them.

Finally, here are a bunch of girls (and some from seed that may be boys) that will populate the flowering room in the coming weeks:

They are mostly Bodhi and Useful.
SSDD, A11, Space Monkey, Mothers Milk, Lemon Lotus, Love Triangle, Bag Of Oranges, Critical Kush.

So, there you have it. If anyone objects to posting this here, please let me know and I'll take it to a new thread. Thanks to @Tim Fox , @Humanrob , @hyroot , @natureboygrower , @Lightgreen2k , and everyone else how helped me and are involved in this thread!
 
Tim Fox

Tim Fox

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Tstat said:
So, I was going to create a new thread to document my switch to SIPs and organics in general, but instead I think I'll just post here. Maybe revive this thread a little.

So, to start, I have a couple of decades of hydro under my belt. My last one was a RDWC system based on Current Culture Under Current. Got sick of the maintenance, etc. and was convinced to try SIPs. So here we go!

I started my organic switchover with 4 plants in 10 gallon pots, while I waited to start the SIPs. They are Goji OG, Apollo 11, and a Purple Unicorn/Pure OG cross. I am still vegging them under the screen:

I will flip over to 12/12 in a week or so. I am looking to stagger my SIPs in (The light system expands. Right now I'm only running about 600 watts of cobs/boards). So, with that in mind, here are the SIPs that were planted yesterday. They are Space Monkey and Sunshine Daydream (SSDD). I will elaborate on my soil mix, etc. next post:

I had some yellowing, and they were really pot bound in the 1 gallon pots. Incredibly, they look WAY better today then when I transplanted them.

Finally, here are a bunch of girls (and some from seed that may be boys) that will populate the flowering room in the coming weeks:

They are mostly Bodhi and Useful.
SSDD, A11, Space Monkey, Mothers Milk, Lemon Lotus, Love Triangle, Bag Of Oranges, Critical Kush.

So, there you have it. If anyone objects to posting this here, please let me know and I'll take it to a new thread. Thanks to @Tim Fox , @Humanrob , @hyroot , @natureboygrower , @Lightgreen2k , and everyone else how helped me and are involved in this thread!
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right on man, such good looking plants, you are really going to enjoy the ease of the switch from hydro to sips,, what are you going to do with all your free time hahah
 
Tstat

Tstat

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Tim Fox said:
right on man, such good looking plants, you are really going to enjoy the ease of the switch from hydro to sips,, what are you going to do with all your free time hahah
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Hmm.. read more books, watch porn? I know, "Plant More Seeds!"
 
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Lightgreen2k

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@Tim Fox

Comment is correct, they will take off nicely.

I myself have to do some super cropping for this crop.

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One side of the Sip.

Off the ground/Bed they should finish at 32 height and the auxiliary branches extending at 14. I have about 4 nodes
 
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raggyb

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Lightgreen2k said:
@Tim Fox

Comment is correct, they will take off nicely.

I myself have to do some super cropping for this crop.

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One side of the Sip.

Off the ground/Bed they should finish at 32 height and the auxiliary branches extending at 14. I have about 4 nodes
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speaking of super cropping, my top stems seem too crisp for it. I snapped a few as soon as I started bending. Ever encounter that?
 
raggyb

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raggyb said:
Made a few different home made Sips. Some working better than others but no logic to it yet. Here a sort of side by side. These 2 were born at the same time and grew in Solos. The left was just a little bigger at the time and I put it in the SIP. The right I put in a 1 gal fabric pot. Left was a little further from light actually. It probably had a 30 day head start in the SIP. Then I put the right in a SIP, about 7 days ago. Here they are

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It's not perfect comparison because they only 1/4 the same genetics and the big could be male and the small female, and so on. It's funny because the big one started getting huge even at first when I hardly put any water in and the wick wasn't working meaning the level wasn't moving and the air gap was like 9 inches and I was only top watering so I don't know why it took off but it did.
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Following up, it turned out the bigger one that went in the SIP sooner was a male and the later one a female, so this was probably a meaningless side by side. Oh well.
 
Chunky Stool

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raggyb said:
speaking of super cropping, my top stems seem too crisp for it. I snapped a few as soon as I started bending. Ever encounter that?
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Yep.
But on the bright side, I've let plants keep going with a half severed stem and they managed just fine. The cola may not have ended up as big as normal but the plant didn't stress over it like removing the top completely.
Hell I've even had big "knuckles" grow back that were hollow and I could see through them! :shock:
They eventually filled in and the plants finished fine. :leaf:
 
raggyb

raggyb

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Chunky Stool said:
Yep.
But on the bright side, I've let plants keep going with a half severed stem and they managed just fine. The cola may not have ended up as big as normal but the plant didn't stress over it like removing the top completely.
Hell I've even had big "knuckles" grow back that were hollow and I could see through them! :shock:
They eventually filled in and the plants finished fine. :leaf:
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cool! I just did a few super crops and managed not to completely destroy them. Plant got too tall.
 
Tstat

Tstat

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Yesterday I took a look under the cover and the Grokashi really took off. White mycelium everywhere! I added a nice layer of lobster compost and filled up the reservoir again. I also picked up a couple of funnels for easier filling.
 
Lightgreen2k

Lightgreen2k

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Tstat said:
Yesterday I took a look under the cover and the Grokashi really took off. White mycelium everywhere! I added a nice layer of lobster compost and filled up the reservoir again. I also picked up a couple of funnels for easier filling.
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Always remember less is more in these systems. It's easy to over do it.
 
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NewGrower2011

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Has anyone tried to make a giant flood/drain with a monster smart pot and super soil/organics rather than counting on the wicking nature of a SIP? One thing that seemed like it might be better at is that when the drain happens it'd be sucking air into the root space where in wicking that wouldn't occur.

I keep debating on the wick size/material/mounting options/etc and have previously used f/d setup with rubbermaid dishwasher totes and those good botanicare fittings (not the cheapo ones!). As I nested those tubs together and with the amount of rez space/height I started second guessing the wicking and thought well hell if a big 15 gal smart pot could sit in here.... well.... get the same effect plus the suction effect and rig it as a big ass f/d with a single monster pot within.

Wondering if any of the SIP crowd had tried that previously and ruled it out favoring the passive nature/benefits and just counting on wicking...
 
natureboygrower

natureboygrower

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Loving my 15gallon earthboxes.I have one bodhi Lucky Wookie in one(this plant alone could have filled my space) and a baddawg gooey13 and bodhi stawberry sunshine sharing the other box.No signs of any deficiencies just past week 5.Its a damn jungle in my space,i will be more mindful of this on my next run
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Gooey13
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@Tstat how's your first run going?
 
Tim Fox

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natureboygrower said:
Loving my 15gallon earthboxes.I have one bodhi Lucky Wookie in one(this plant alone could have filled my space) and a baddawg gooey13 and bodhi stawberry sunshine sharing the other box.No signs of any deficiencies just past week 5.Its a damn jungle in my space,i will be more mindful of this on my next run
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Gooey13
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@Tstat how's your first run going?
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Sips grow huge plants
 
natureboygrower

natureboygrower

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Tim Fox said:
Sips grow huge plants
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Unbelievable how fast plants grow using this method.I really dont see myself changing directions now that I'm onto sips.So easy,I top off every morning right before lights out and have zero worries about overwatering or watering when not needed.When I first put my plants into the boxes,one or two got a few weird leaves.I think it was from the soil being a little too wet for their roots,but the sips immediately corrected that.I also noticed a smell coming from my reservoir which completely disappeared after a few res top offs.Next run Ima focus more on an even canopy,more effecient use of space.
 
Tim Fox

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natureboygrower said:
Unbelievable how fast plants grow using this method.I really dont see myself changing directions now that I'm onto sips.So easy,I top off every morning right before lights out and have zero worries about overwatering or watering when not needed.When I first put my plants into the boxes,one or two got a few weird leaves.I think it was from the soil being a little too wet for their roots,but the sips immediately corrected that.I also noticed a smell coming from my reservoir which completely disappeared after a few res top offs.Next run Ima focus more on an even canopy,more effecient use of space.
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oh yes growing in sips is a "cake walk" hydroponic type growth, without the hydro work hahah
 
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