Since I know that Y'all love hypotheticals

Garden Knowm

The Love Doctor
What if... hitler came to your front door and had was raping your wife, would you hit him with a shovel or pray to GOD for help?


NO just joking -

What if you knew that after the 9-11 attacks, all we had to do was give 300,000,000 dollars for aid programs in the middle east and all would be good.


Or the other option would be to spend 300,000,000,000 and have 4000 us boys die and more than 20,000 injuries?

what would you do....? these are your choices?
 

dankie

Well-Known Member
I have a lot of issues with loose change. Where did all the people who loaded explosives into the WTC go? Where are all the people who wired those explosives? why haven't any of them spoken up? The problem with conspiricy theories is to many people would need to be involved.
 

kindprincess

Well-Known Member
I have a lot of issues with loose change. Where did all the people who loaded explosives into the WTC go? Where are all the people who wired those explosives? why haven't any of them spoken up? The problem with conspiricy theories is to many people would need to be involved.
don't you think those involved would want to keep quiet for fear of incrimination?

would they not have been paid an extreme amount of cash to perform?

i remember thinking when the tower fell (when it happened)... my first thought was (omg, they demolished the building!). it looked like an orchestrated event; if they had fallen from integrity issues, it would have been much more haphazzard...

also, how did those massive steel beams end up all the way across the street? why were they melted in a straight and clean line? what where the other explosions you can SEE when the towers are coming down?

hm.....
 

medicineman

New Member
There are a lot of things to think about in this video. If the American people really believed this, wouldn't this lead to a downright revolution, I mean if our leaders actually did this false flag attack, wouldn't they be murderers and criminals. I realize they already are for killing Iraqis, but killing our own. wouldn't that be over the line?
 

ViRedd

New Member
There are a lot of things to think about in this video. If the American people really believed this, wouldn't this lead to a downright revolution, I mean if our leaders actually did this false flag attack, wouldn't they be murderers and criminals. I realize they already are for killing Iraqis, but killing our own. wouldn't that be over the line?
Not at all Med. Our government has killed U.S. citizens throughout our history. The War Against Secession was the worst, costing over 500,000 American lives.

Vi
 

morp

Well-Known Member
i was always very skeptical about 911 conspiracies. however, the plain facts; ie. the fact that normal steel doesnt melt until 3000 degrees, the steel supports in the trade towers were reinforced, fire retardent units, so melt a lot higher, coupled with the fact that kerosene has a maximum burning temp. of 2000 degrees. the damage to the pentagon, the lack of wreckage at the flight 93 crash site, the passport which flew through the inferno, the third trade tower office building which collapsed because of 'debris falling from the sky'.

as kp says, ive seen buildings purposefully demolished myself in the past, and they resemble the collapse of the trade towers almost exactly. even if it is all bullshit, surely it should be in your 'governments' prime interest to refute any suspiscions with cold, hard facts. which of course, they cannot do because something is seriously wrong with the whole affair...
 

medicineman

New Member
Not at all Med. Our government has killed U.S. citizens throughout our history. The War Against Secession was the worst, costing over 500,000 American lives.

Vi
I believe that was war by both sides, kinda like if the dems and repukes had a war, I know who'd win that one, Repukes all the way, they've got the money and the military in their pocket, not to mention all the corporations.
Are you of the opinion that our government actually did 911? If you watch all the conspiracy flicks it looks entirely possible. It's just that this regime has fucked every thing they've ever done, so how could they get away with this?
 

closet.cult

New Member
I believe that was war by both sides, kinda like if the dems and repukes had a war, I know who'd win that one, Repukes all the way, they've got the money and the military in their pocket, not to mention all the corporations.
Are you of the opinion that our government actually did 911? If you watch all the conspiracy flicks it looks entirely possible. It's just that this regime has fucked every thing they've ever done, so how could they get away with this?
you're mistaking the president for something he is not. i know this requires a LOT of imagination and cynicism, but i have no problem believing the government pulled off 9/11.

george bush is the perfect president to use. noone would believe HE had anything to do with it. he's just not bright enough. but the real orchestrators of 9/11 are the true leaders of this country. the money men; bankers and big buisness. and THEY are highly intelligent, with very deep pockets and no morals.

they are who could pull off something like this. dubya is just their puppet.
 

medicineman

New Member
you're mistaking the president for something he is not. i know this requires a LOT of imagination and cynicism, but i have no problem believing the government pulled off 9/11.

george bush is the perfect president to use. noone would believe HE had anything to do with it. he's just not bright enough. but the real orchestrators of 9/11 are the true leaders of this country. the money men; bankers and big buisness. and THEY are highly intelligent, with very deep pockets and no morals.

they are who could pull off something like this. dubya is just their puppet.
So If I agree with you, then I'm a conspiuracy nut, just like I was when JFK was assasinated. Here's the problem. We saw The planes hit the twin towers, How could explosives have been planted on a building where 4-6K people work every day without someone getting suspicious? The Pentagon is another matter, it is pretty shaky, and that building 7, I believe, that went down hours later at the site looks like a planned demolition if ever there were. BTW, I'm well aware that Bush is a puppet, seems like they could have found a smarter puppet though, maybe his stupidity makes it seem more real.
 

mastakoosh

Well-Known Member
Im sorry i dont buy this conspiracy theory. Thousands of people died and we watched the planes hit the towers on t.v.,but all of this was planned? Nobody has stepped forward with concrete evidence or proof our government was involved. Dont you think with how big this tragedy was someone would confidentially step up and bring some light to how these events were planned and manifested. Our government planned thousands of peoples deaths and it all went smoothly without one hitch in the plan? I will take some heat for my opinion but i really could care less. I think some are smoking way too much of that sticky icky.
 

dankie

Well-Known Member
So our government planned 9/11 pulled it off without a hitch, but could not construe a lie to cover no WoMD in Iraq?

Thousands of pounds of explosives moved into WTC 1&2.
246 citizens taken out of society completely. 135 of them identified dead by DNA.
4 airliners destroyed and matched via serialized parts in 4 different wreckages.

38 billion paid to relitives
15 billion paid to stabalize the airlines
50 billion to European banks
40 billion to aid recovery domestically
NYSE closed for 1 week untold billions lost

Who are these "money men", how did paying all this money from our federal government help any of them. It makes no sense. All 3 of the major players in our financial sector were housed in the WTC.

Cantor Fitzgerald, Charles Schwab, J.P. Morgan Chase. These are the 3 largest financial institutions in the U.S. They were the hardest hit. "The Bankers" & "Money Men" lost the most out of this. They lost their best and brightest...

So tell me again who was behind this?
 

mexiblunt

Well-Known Member
Are you postive these money men lost money in this? I've known ppl who come out on top when suddenly by 'accident' there house burns down and they have a nice insurance policy. Much like the huge policy taken out on wtc7 weeks or months before it went down by 'falling debris'.

Who's making the money now? huge contracts to re-build iraq, ground zero, etc. Seems like these ppl are sucking the taxpayers money into their own pockets in a round about way?

Lastly. If this was facilitated by the bush admin and affiliats who say they got away with it. Were still here. someone said they f'd up everythings else how could they get away with this? exactly! If they did it I don't think they will. How many other false flag ops do we hear about? a fair amount. just not while it's current. What if the germans ppl knew, atr the time thier gov burnt down thier own parlliment building,blaming it on russia to gain support to further thier war? happens all the time. just my 2 cents.
 

dankie

Well-Known Member
Are you postive these money men lost money in this? I've known ppl who come out on top when suddenly by 'accident' there house burns down and they have a nice insurance policy. Much like the huge policy taken out on wtc7 weeks or months before it went down by 'falling debris'.

Who's making the money now? huge contracts to re-build iraq, ground zero, etc. Seems like these ppl are sucking the taxpayers money into their own pockets in a round about way?

Lastly. If this was facilitated by the bush admin and affiliats who say they got away with it. Were still here. someone said they f'd up everythings else how could they get away with this? exactly! If they did it I don't think they will. How many other false flag ops do we hear about? a fair amount. just not while it's current. What if the germans ppl knew, atr the time thier gov burnt down thier own parlliment building,blaming it on russia to gain support to further thier war? happens all the time. just my 2 cents.
Well the WTC insurance policy did not pay out. The government declared it an act of war which is not covered by any insurance policy. In fact many of the large insurance companies are still in lawsuits over claims that were rejected after 9/11.

As far as our government and many others benefiting from this, again it looks like a big payout before anyone is going to see any money from this.

Also, where did the 4 jetliners go? where did the people on those jetliners go? Loose Change says they were military planes that were put into the buildings.
 

ViRedd

New Member
We have hashed this, rehashed it, and now we are rehashing it again. 19 Middle Eastern terrorists hijacked three four planes and used them as flying bombs. That's it in a nutshell.

Vi
 
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