QuarksRSmall
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By no means am I an expert but I think that they need more light, bigger pots, and some form of training such as topping, fimming, or LST.
MJCanada
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From my understanding of how most plants like cannabis grow, if you want the plant to put energy into those side branches, you need to make them the highest top.
The plant's chemistry will take over and start pushing it's energy into the highest top. This is evolution at work. In the wild, the highest top is the most likely to be pollinated, so the plant wants that one to have the biggest/strongest bud.
Don't get me wrong, the side branches will grow out, but they'll never get as strong/big as the primary top(s).
Supercropping, LST, mainlining, and topping; all of these techniques do essentially the same thing, the trick(by bending the top down) or force(by cutting the top off
) the plant to push it's energy into different branches.
Supercropping adds, controversially, the thought that if you damage an area of the plant it'll push nutrients into that zone to fix itself, and the resulting pipe is stronger, and more nutrients flow to it. Although evidence exists that it does not yield less than the other types, the jury is still out on if it's better than any other.
So, if you want the side branches to develop big colas, like how the main top is going to, you gotta bend the main top down below those side branches!
The plant's chemistry will take over and start pushing it's energy into the highest top. This is evolution at work. In the wild, the highest top is the most likely to be pollinated, so the plant wants that one to have the biggest/strongest bud.
Don't get me wrong, the side branches will grow out, but they'll never get as strong/big as the primary top(s).
Supercropping, LST, mainlining, and topping; all of these techniques do essentially the same thing, the trick(by bending the top down) or force(by cutting the top off
) the plant to push it's energy into different branches.Supercropping adds, controversially, the thought that if you damage an area of the plant it'll push nutrients into that zone to fix itself, and the resulting pipe is stronger, and more nutrients flow to it. Although evidence exists that it does not yield less than the other types, the jury is still out on if it's better than any other.
So, if you want the side branches to develop big colas, like how the main top is going to, you gotta bend the main top down below those side branches!
Gonna transplant it into soil outdoor in a couple of days I'll do that when I have it transplanted, any idea what the fuck went wrong on this plant?From my understanding of how most plants like cannabis grow, if you want the plant to put energy into those side branches, you need to make them the highest top.
The plant's chemistry will take over and start pushing it's energy into the highest top. This is evolution at work. In the wild, the highest top is the most likely to be pollinated, so the plant wants that one to have the biggest/strongest bud.
Don't get me wrong, the side branches will grow out, but they'll never get as strong/big as the primary top(s).
Supercropping, LST, mainlining, and topping; all of these techniques do essentially the same thing, the trick(by bending the top down) or force(by cutting the top off
Supercropping adds, controversially, the thought that if you damage an area of the plant it'll push nutrients into that zone to fix itself, and the resulting pipe is stronger, and more nutrients flow to it. Although evidence exists that it does not yield less than the other types, the jury is still out on if it's better than any other.
So, if you want the side branches to develop big colas, like how the main top is going to, you gotta bend the main top down below those side branches!
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I am transplanting the bigger one outdoors into the ground in a couple of days I'll LST it. Its been topped at the 9th node. The smaller one was topped at the 2nd thats gonna be out into a bigger pot and out in the ground outdoors when its a bit bigger
MJCanada
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Hard to tell with just a single picture and no other details.
If I had to guess, given the way it looks, how dark the grow medium is, and how big the plant is vs it's pot: over watering and/or root bound.
Seedlings you don't saturate the soil. Small circles of water for the first 7 days(probably not everyday) the seedling is above ground. Then, depending on pot size and how well the plant is doing, you might be able to flip to full saturation every few days.
If you are growing outside, I'd read/watch more stuff specific to outside growing. I've educated myself for 100% indoor growing.
If I had to guess, given the way it looks, how dark the grow medium is, and how big the plant is vs it's pot: over watering and/or root bound.
Seedlings you don't saturate the soil. Small circles of water for the first 7 days(probably not everyday) the seedling is above ground. Then, depending on pot size and how well the plant is doing, you might be able to flip to full saturation every few days.
If you are growing outside, I'd read/watch more stuff specific to outside growing. I've educated myself for 100% indoor growing.
Thanks man thaugjt rootbkund might be the problem as the other one increased in health dramatically when I transplanted it I need to get some more soil tho. Does it look too late to be fixed or can it be saved do you think?
MJCanada
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Never too late to try...
Transplant it into some nice rich soil with lots of aeration (perlite, etc). Trim all the dead stuff, and be gentle for a week. Given the top has still got some healthy green color, I bet it'll bounce back in about a week.
Make sure you remove the dead, or past the point of no return leaves. You don't want those necro'ing your girl.
Transplant it into some nice rich soil with lots of aeration (perlite, etc). Trim all the dead stuff, and be gentle for a week. Given the top has still got some healthy green color, I bet it'll bounce back in about a week.
Make sure you remove the dead, or past the point of no return leaves. You don't want those necro'ing your girl.
Thanks man I'll grab some soil tomorrow, mostly all the leaves look fairly fucked tho I'll give it a go anyways tho thanks
MJCanada
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The top node looks fine in the picture.
Take a look at the mainlining tutorial... look at how much foliage is removed during the first few steps... the plants are almost leafless!
So long as the picture isn't hiding anything drastic in color for the top of that plant... I have faith she'll bounce back!
Take a look at the mainlining tutorial... look at how much foliage is removed during the first few steps... the plants are almost leafless!
So long as the picture isn't hiding anything drastic in color for the top of that plant... I have faith she'll bounce back!
Have I done too much? I wasn't 100% on what I was doing I had just remembered hearing that pruning the latteral branches brings more energy to the rest of that plant that needs it
StaySticky
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I would suggest letting your plant do its thing. Those branches dident grow just for nothing. Let the beautiful nature do its thing
thanks man, normally I would I wanted to get some light in at the lower side branches tho as they where very blocked from the light and I believe this may have something to do with the fact the lower side branches are so tinyI would suggest letting your plant do its thing. Those branches dident grow just for nothing. Let the beautiful nature do its thing
Budzbuddha
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Yeah ... early training would have “ shaped “ her . Hubbing / mainline / manifold would set the BASE.
Topping would have stopped the terminal bud and send lateral growth. LST would have saddled the stretch .
SCROG would have worked too.
Oh well
Live and Learn
Topping would have stopped the terminal bud and send lateral growth. LST would have saddled the stretch .
SCROG would have worked too.
Oh well
Live and Learn