Show me your worm bins and compost

raggyb

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well the bricks probably are as cold as the cement haha, maybe try an empty tote or something that won't pull the heat outta the bin. Closer to the radiator may not even be necessary, 68 is plenty warm. But man, going up to the lid now too? that what the worms do that make it through the casting harvester after i store the castings in a tote with a lid... looking for oxygen.

what did you use for the feed?

my bedding is probably 10-12" deep
Sounds good. I'll raise 'em up too and see. Is it good to put a computer fan blowing outward to get oxygen in or would that dry it out too much?
I use a variety of feed: juice machine scraff, toasted egg shell, coffee grounds, bit of lettuce, herbs/leaves, tea, greensand, etc. on a used pete and soil base with perlite in it. I might want to get it built up deeper I think. It's only 4" deep.
 

CanadianDank

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How much do you guys toast, roast or bake your eggshells?
Do you char them at all or just enough to eliminate possibility of salmonella?
 

raggyb

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How much do you guys toast, roast or bake your eggshells?
Do you char them at all or just enough to eliminate possibility of salmonella?
I crush and dry toast 5 or 10 mins in a fry pan till they turn brown then grind. someone on RIT said it makes the calcium break down faster and the parts that turn brown are calcium and the other parts I think said are K.
 

CanadianDank

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I crush and dry toast 5 or 10 mins in a fry pan till they turn brown then grind. someone on RIT said it makes the calcium break down faster and the parts that turn brown are calcium and the other parts I think said are K.
I've heard that too, but I'm pretty sure eggshells will still provide plenty of calcium without being charred, maybe will just take longer to break down.
As long as I don't attract rats I'm happy lol.
Anything will be much better than my store bought sterilized ewc.

I've been adding greensand to the bin for grit as well.
Do you guys figure this will make the nutrients and minerals immediately available in the castings?
I know I've read that on here, but just hoping to re affirm this.
 

ShLUbY

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I've heard that too, but I'm pretty sure eggshells will still provide plenty of calcium without being charred, maybe will just take longer to break down.
As long as I don't attract rats I'm happy lol.
Anything will be much better than my store bought sterilized ewc.

I've been adding greensand to the bin for grit as well.
Do you guys figure this will make the nutrients and minerals immediately available in the castings?
I know I've read that on here, but just hoping to re affirm this.
i would think it would make some of them available. probably a great long term release, i'm sure it takes a good bit of time before even they break it down.
 

raggyb

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Re those unhappy worms. We're in the midst of an extreme cold spell. I have more crawling down through the drain holes. Today I moved closer to a radiator, which I hope does the trick. Do these look like worms that are unhappy due to cold? If only they could talk.

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CanadianDank

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Re those unhappy worms. We're in the midst of an extreme cold spell. I have more crawling down through the drain holes. Today I moved closer to a radiator, which I hope does the trick. Do these look like worms that are unhappy due to cold? If only they could talk.

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I dont see why they'd find it warmer outside the bin than in. Mine are in my basement with no problems.

Are you sure your moisture levels good? Maybe its too wet in there?

Have you been balancing your inputs? I'm not sure how the worms would react if the pH was too far off.

Just a few things to consider!
 

raggyb

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I dont see why they'd find it warmer outside the bin than in. Mine are in my basement with no problems.

Are you sure your moisture levels good? Maybe its too wet in there?

Have you been balancing your inputs? I'm not sure how the worms would react if the pH was too far off.

Just a few things to consider!
Thanks for the thoughts CanadaD. It's like they're looking for warmth so they go down through the holes and then theres no going back then so they either sit and wait for me to scoop them back in the top bin or they try whatever they can in a bit of a panic and start huddling or climbing. I somewhat wish I hadn't drilled drain holes at all. Lot's of people mention too wet is a problem but I actually think it may be on the dry side. For one I have no leachate. I don't think pH is way off, but I felt my used soil I use might have salt build up in it. When they calm down I think it's either when it warms up outside or when I feed, I'm not sure which.
 

MustangStudFarm

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I've been making my own bokashi bran lately and have been using it in my outdoor worm bin. Anyways, it's been freezing here and adding the bran has caused a thermal compost and it was nice and steamy when I lifted the plastic.
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It really seems to help everything break down also. You can see the cardboard that I was using as a cover, it's getting white and fuzzy. I used about 10gal of bran and covered the top with a generous top-dressing. Anyways, I shook ice off of the tarp that was covering the bin and it was nice and cozy underneath.
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MustangStudFarm

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I've been making bran that is close to the Grokashi recipe. I have been using Azomite, Sea90/Pink salt, and Youngevity with the bran. It looks like my leaf compost is finishing faster and the worm population has been the best that I have ever seen it! It took my leaves 13mo to get to this point and I decided that I needed to do something to speed it up and I think that I am on to something. I didn't have a lot of worms until I started adding the wheat bran. The worms showed up on their own, but I also live in the woods and my worm bin is along the tree line.
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DankTankerous

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I've been making bran that is close to the Grokashi recipe. I have been using Azomite, Sea90/Pink salt, and Youngevity with the bran. It looks like my leaf compost is finishing faster and the worm population has been the best that I have ever seen it! It took my leaves 13mo to get to this point and I decided that I needed to do something to speed it up and I think that I am on to something. I didn't have a lot of worms until I started adding the wheat bran. The worms showed up on their own, but I also live in the woods and my worm bin is along the tree line.
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Do y’all know if earwigs will outcompete worms for food? It seems like my worm population really dipped. I see a lot of very fat and full earwigs like at least an inch long, and I’m wondering if that’s the case. It started when I gave them a lot of leaf mold. There were not worms escaping it. pH of the castings is around 7 so I don’t think the soil got out of balance. I did feed them a lot of fruit (strawberries, avocado, and cucumbers) but would give spinach and kale as well. What do y’all think?
 

MustangStudFarm

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Do y’all know if earwigs will outcompete worms for food? It seems like my worm population really dipped. I see a lot of very fat and full earwigs like at least an inch long, and I’m wondering if that’s the case. It started when I gave them a lot of leaf mold. There were not worms escaping it. pH of the castings is around 7 so I don’t think the soil got out of balance. I did feed them a lot of fruit (strawberries, avocado, and cucumbers) but would give spinach and kale as well. What do y’all think?
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Most species of earwigs are scavengers that feed on dead insects and decaying plant material. ... Earwigs may try to pinch if handled carelessly, but are harmless to people. They are not harmful in a worm composter but may eat some of the earthworm food.

I know worms start going dormant under 50-60F and die when they freeze. Worms are mostly water, so when they freeze they will burst because water expands. Bokashi bran helps with the heat and breaks down material.
 

raggyb

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Most species of earwigs are scavengers that feed on dead insects and decaying plant material. ... Earwigs may try to pinch if handled carelessly, but are harmless to people. They are not harmful in a worm composter but may eat some of the earthworm food.

I know worms start going dormant under 50-60F and die when they freeze. Worms are mostly water, so when they freeze they will burst because water expands. Bokashi bran helps with the heat and breaks down material.
They told us in boy scouts that ear wigs crawl in your ears and eat your brains. Hence their name.
 

raggyb

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Update on the unhappy basement worms. I'm ready to call the move to a radiator a win. It's freezing as a mofo outside lately and 3 days with almost nobody crawling through the drain holes.
 

ShLUbY

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Update on the unhappy basement worms. I'm ready to call the move to a radiator a win. It's freezing as a mofo outside lately and 3 days with almost nobody crawling through the drain holes.
i thought you were doing that like two weeks ago lol. what happened? Glad to hear they are responding :)
 

raggyb

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I've been making bran that is close to the Grokashi recipe. I have been using Azomite, Sea90/Pink salt, and Youngevity with the bran. It looks like my leaf compost is finishing faster and the worm population has been the best that I have ever seen it! It took my leaves 13mo to get to this point and I decided that I needed to do something to speed it up and I think that I am on to something. I didn't have a lot of worms until I started adding the wheat bran. The worms showed up on their own, but I also live in the woods and my worm bin is along the tree line.
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@MustangStudFarm, do you ever take a temp measurement in the pile? My basement worms seem less than happy when my guestimate is it's 65F. I heat them up a bit and their much happier.
 

raggyb

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i thought you were doing that like two weeks ago lol. what happened? Glad to hear they are responding :)
That was the plan but I decided to try a change a few more variables first and wait a few days between each change. Then it got cold as shit and I said aha, time to move it by the heat!
 

CanadianDank

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They told us in boy scouts that ear wigs crawl in your ears and eat your brains. Hence their name.
No what they do is crawl in your ear deep enough where it's dark and warm, then they scratch away at the surface of your skin inside your ear canal. Once they scratch enough away they lay their eggs in the wound and exit the ear. Your body then heals over the eggs and acts as an incubator by keeping them warm and moist until they hatch. When they do hatch they scratch their way out of the wound and are free to go about their lives. You ever get a bit of an itch on your ear.. deeper then you can reach?
 

raggyb

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No what they do is crawl in your ear deep enough where it's dark and warm, then they scratch away at the surface of your skin inside your ear canal. Once they scratch enough away they lay their eggs in the wound and exit the ear. Your body then heals over the eggs and acts as an incubator by keeping them warm and moist until they hatch. When they do hatch they scratch their way out of the wound and are free to go about their lives. You ever get a bit of an itch on your ear.. deeper then you can reach?
Jesus Aitch! Come to think of it I have! So I thought it was bullshit, but it was half way true.
 
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