Thanks guys! Yeah there are some amazing auto breeders out there nowadays, the strains a far throw from the old lowryders! I've found my favorites, the mephisto guys, no need to look any further, since that is not ultimately the direction I want to go. It's just an interlude on my way to DonBrennon and Bodhi (sunshine daydreams ahead!) strains But Mephisto is putting out some really cool stuff, I need to talk someone who's grown the clone-only version into growing their sour livers strains for comparison LOL They do have very interesting terpene profiles too, sometimes a bit on the "flat" side, i.e. they don't evolve with curing as I have found with the NLH (the only photoperiod I can compare to for now!!), but when I think about the ritualistic way the oaxacans and co are grown out on the other end of the scale, small wonder?! Big wonder actually they can achieve what they do in 70-90 days! And yes, this one is incredibly resiny, I think I can pretty much skip trimming, just take off the fans for hash and done lol Cheers!