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Got two bags seeds one is around 4 months old , the smaller one a week behind . I'm using a sf100 for both I shouldn't have sold my hlg . The bag was labeled uncle og but who really knows with bad seed , they both smell fruity . I topped one of them and fimmed the other one

You traded a BMW for a KIA?The difference is amazing using real lights,mars lights are sub standard.[spiderfarmer is mars]

Unfortunately check out the autos with the 260 .

nmibud said:

You traded a BMW for a KIA?The difference is amazing using real lights,mars lights are sub standard.[spiderfarmer is mars]

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SF IS NOT MARS. Who is paying you to keep lieing about this? SF is vastly superior to Mars crap. Clearly Mars does not have a clue, but they still keep reeling in the suckers

A few years back on another forum someone bought a mehzi reflector light.The led panels all had mars hydro on them,the mars rep smokesara couldn't come up with a reason able excuse.Just more lies and bs.In the end the rep had to admit to her lies.What other proof do you need?

nmibud said:

A few years back on another forum someone bought a mehzi reflector light.The led panels all had mars hydro on them,the mars rep smokesara couldn't come up with a reason able excuse.Just more lies and bs.In the end the rep had to admit to her lies.What other proof do you need?

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when different mfg products are made in the same led lighting factory (who makes all kinds of led lights), shit happens

let's just let it go,keep buying what you want and I'll keep building my own.Have a nice day!

nmibud said:

let's just let it go,keep buying what you want and I'll keep building my own.Have a nice day!

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I will as long as you stop repeating the same lies. Since you roll your own, you should be knowledgeable enough to know Mars and SF are apples and oranges

Justb leave me the fuck alone with all your china junk loving bullshit and move on you asswipe!

I have an SF4000, will be in a 2 x 1 meter tent with another DIY LED using Samsung diodes of similar strength. This tent will be used for the first 3 weeks of flowering clones that have had 2 week to root up and adjust from propagator to tent settings. Then moved onto next larger 2 x 2 tent with all DIY LED's with 2x the output. I think it should do the trick, wanted another DIY but could not get at this time. I think they are from Mars, that is who the payment went to anyways I think they just wanted to move into the higher quality market with the spiderfarm product and from what I have seen these lights are decent. Decent enough to get the flowering underway at least.

nmibud said:

Justb leave me the fuck alone with all your china junk loving bullshit and move on you asswipe!

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You made a false claim, douche. Don't cry because you're being called out for it. Man tf up and apologize.

What the fuck are you talking about?What false claim?Wake up and move on!

nmibud said:

What the fuck are you talking about?What false claim?Wake up and move on!

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You claimed that SF and Mars are the same company. They're not. And rather than retract your earlier claim, you're instead crying about being called on it.

They are the same,it is mars's new line released under a new name to try and run from their past.It is the truth and it's too bad you can' seem to get it.

nmibud said:

They are the same,it is mars's new line released under a new name to try and run from their past.It is the truth and it's too bad you can' seem to get it.

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Source?

I bought one from spiderfarmer, payment went to Mars Trading Rcc, Inc. If that is the same company that makes the Mars LED' then they are under the same ownership, but that does not mean that SF are not of a much better quality. From the grows I have seen with them they are.

nmibud said:

Justb leave me the fuck alone with all your china junk loving bullshit and move on you asswipe!

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typical response from someone whose been called out/caught as a troll or flat out liar

Ted2015 said:

I bought one from spiderfarmer, payment went to Mars Trading Rcc, Inc. If that is the same company that makes the Mars LED' then they are under the same ownership, but that does not mean that SF are not of a much better quality. From the grows I have seen with them they are.

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Interesting.

Even though Mars is too stupid to make a proper light (why should they as there are plenty of ignorant buyers FOR THEIR JUNK LIGHTS) but they had the money from said buyers APPARENTLY to buy SF, or at least to process the payments (for a fee of course).

There are plenty of examples where companys like Nestle bought bottled water companys, cigarette companies diversified their portfolios when they saw the writing on the wall, crap food manufacturers buying small organic food companies...

Why can't you just move on,you need mental help.You are a shill for a brand of cheap china lights.Your bias toward cheap shit lights has blinded you to reality.And I see you may have seen the light,mars builds spiderfarmer just like gm builds multiple brands.

nmibud said:

Why can't you just move on,you need mental help.You are a shill for a brand of cheap china lights.Your bias toward cheap shit lights has blinded you to reality.And I see you may have seen the light,mars builds spiderfarmer just like gm builds multiple brands.

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Are you going to get around to providing a source for your claim? I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'm wondering where you're getting your info from. How is it that you know that Mars and SF are the same company?