Setting up a new grow in an Industrial Warehouse, NEED HELP!

Snoopy808

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There's consulting services that will engineer your infrastructure so you dont come up short or wanting something after youre in the middle of your grow.

I had a grower buddy set up a legal rec grow. He had consultants design it. It was tight! Everything was planned out from the ground up. Drainage, flooring, equipment, water, HVAC, electrical and lighting.
 

Bignutes

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How much an hour you want to pay? I suggest if your looking to set that space up in times of distress and under the impression that youll get all your needs off the web your going to waste your money and put yourself in further distress. Setting something like that up is all about planning with people in the know.
 

sehnsee

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There's consulting services that will engineer your infrastructure so you dont come up short or wanting something after youre in the middle of your grow.

I had a grower buddy set up a legal rec grow. He had consultants design it. It was tight! Everything was planned out from the ground up. Drainage, flooring, equipment, water, HVAC, electrical and lighting.
That sounds expensive. Were on a independent budget no outside money .
 

sehnsee

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How much an hour you want to pay? I suggest if your looking to set that space up in times of distress and under the impression that youll get all your needs off the web your going to waste your money and put yourself in further distress. Setting something like that up is all about planning with people in the know.
Not sure what the market rate is for a grow room consultant, but im on a limited budget more interested in a long term partner/master grower.
 

Renfro

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1kW HPS, SE or DE?

If you are going to cover say 80% of the space with canopy (that would be on the high end) you would be looking at somewhere around 270kW in lighting and likely around 80 tons of AC just for lighting heat load.

Where are you setting up? Need a commercial consultant?
 

Renfro

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Avoid 3 phase power for what you are doing. Single phase power will be more efficient for what we are doing.

Definitely looking at something around 2000 amps minimum for lighting and AC, dehumidification. Of course you could run flowering areas on a flip and cut the service size down.
 

Renfro

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That sounds expensive. Were on a independent budget no outside money .
What will licensing and compliance cost out the gate? That needs to be first. One can always design a grow such that it can be scaled up incrementally. Start with a veg area and a flowering room and then add more flowering rooms as sales permit. If it's all planned properly in advance then you will end up with multiple flowering areas that can each be mono-cropped and you will have harvests perpetually making it easier to employ trimmers and keep them busy.
 

Exxact

Active Member
Avoid 3 phase power for what you are doing. Single phase power will be more efficient for what we are doing.

Definitely looking at something around 2000 amps minimum for lighting and AC, dehumidification. Of course you could run flowering areas on a flip and cut the service size down.
Why 3 phase is bad? 400v lights between phases, over double less amps

If you use 1 phase you will need so thiccc caples, how is that efficient?
 

coreywebster

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We have a 6700' warehouse that we will be converting to a commercial grow due to loss of business of Corona Virus.

Trying to determine approximately how many 1000w HPS lights we can fit in here, and what type of power will be required.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
That's a fucking nice space!
 

Renfro

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Why 3 phase is bad? 400v lights between phases, over double less amps

If you use 1 phase you will need so thiccc caples, how is that efficient?
Power factor. Thats why. The only loads that run more efficiently on 3 phase power is 3 phase motor loads and we don't use many of those except for with commercial AC.

 

manfredo

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What will licensing and compliance cost out the gate? That needs to be first. One can always design a grow such that it can be scaled up incrementally. Start with a veg area and a flowering room and then add more flowering rooms as sales permit. If it's all planned properly in advance then you will end up with multiple flowering areas that can each be mono-cropped and you will have harvests perpetually making it easier to employ trimmers and keep them busy.
Multiple grow and flower areas would be smart, so when problems arise, like pests, mildew, etc, it might not contaminate everything...Notice I said when, not if....because problems WILL arise.
 

Exxact

Active Member
Power factor. Thats why. The only loads that run more efficiently on 3 phase power is 3 phase motor loads and we don't use many of those except for with commercial AC.

Still you didnt asnwer me. 400V lights between phases is way more efficient.

Lower energy loss, smaller cables
 

Renfro

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Phase to phase on three phase doesn't result in a sum of the components due to the waves being offset unlike a split phase setup where the phases are 180 degrees offset. Instead of basically multiplying x2 phase to phase it's the square root of 3.

Send me a link to the setup you are talking about. 480v? 400 volt lamps (DE) are run on a ballast (choke for lack of better terms) not directly off the power.
 

Renfro

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3 phase power is only beneficial when running 3 phase motor loads since the motor inversely uses the power in the same manner it's generated.
 
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