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Sif1

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This is going to be a short intro. Basically sharing my experience with Nirvana Seed Bank.

Purchased AK48, Jock Horror, Northern Lights, and got 10 free seeds. haha

Me. 30yrs growing experience. Plus growing Garlic, Chillies and Tomatoes. All in Hydro, and Coco. Plus computerised C2o and temp controls all in commercial growing units up to 10,000 plants. Your questions are welcomed.

The above seeds took 1 week to crack, with a success rate of 75%.
After reading the reviews on Nirvana i was sure i had found the ONE. No it wasn't, turned out to be a crapping piece of fluff. Air-rated fluff. Contacted Nirvana on several occasions to no avail only to be insulted by a internet forum troll only to be told it was me and not the seeds.

Here is the conversation. I am Sif


http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/nexgen-t3-pro-trader-software-the-woodlands-texas-c119888.html

o Lazy_jim

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@Lazy_jim

Welcome to Nirvana's #420 chat sif

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+sif

sent complaint about the quality of your AK48 via email support a week ago and all I get is emails trying to sell me more shit without any explanation why these products with crap.

19:41:13

Thought you had a better rep than that.

19:46:00
+Cerebral_Nomad
What happened?
19:46:34
+sif
fluffy fluffy fluffy
19:46:46
didn't harden up at all
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@Lazy_jim
Welcome to Nirvana's #420 chat Cerebral_Nomad
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19:47:26
+sif
dissapointed to the max.
19:47:55
+Cerebral_Nomad
Elaborate?
19:48:28
Bad AK48?
19:48:53
@Jim-food
sif like i said you have to solve that with customer support
19:49:05
im not customer support and i cant do anything about it
19:49:41
+Cerebral_Nomad
Seeds not poppin?
19:49:56
+sif
well they won't respond, so whats the answer??
19:50:37
@Jim-food
well if they diddnt responded yet then give them some time
19:50:42
or fill in another ticket
19:50:43
+sif
seeds took a week to pop, at that point i thought perhaps something might be wrong
19:51:10
@Jim-food
many things could went wrong, but i do know that we have beginners who never grew before and they managed to get decent buds
19:51:47
+sif
why does everyone say how gr8 it is and i end up with fluffy fluff
19:51:59
+Cerebral_Nomad
How did you germ?19:52:05
+sif
perhaps they don't know what gr8 actually is
19:52:06
@Jim-food
well where is the mistake then sif ??
19:52:14
they all grow perfect buds, except you
19:52:18
they all talk bs ?
19:52:35
sif maybe you dont know how to grow
19:52:55
+Cerebral_Nomad
Ive grown AK48 with no probs
19:52:59
+sif
there was something badly wrong. i don't know what. thats what i am trying to assertain
19:53:17
@Jim-food
no you are not trying...all you do is complain the seeds are bad sif
19:53:25
+sif
I know how to grow, don't worry about that
19:53:35
@Jim-food
like i said, sent another mail to support, ask for a explenation etc
19:53:37
+sif
because they were
19:53:49
@Jim-food
but i cant help you with it like i also mentioned before in chat
19:53:58
+sif
i don't want to complain. last thing i want to do
19:54:12
+Cerebral_Nomad
Its not unheard of for seeds to take a week to crack
19:54:21
+sif
but i gave clones to other growers and they all had the same problem
19:55:00
I actually came on here in the that they were cracking saying they were taking along time
19:55:08
that week
19:55:19
+Cerebral_Nomad
What was the prob?
19:55:44
+sif
they were really fluffy, never hardened up
19:55:49
air rated
19:56:10
@Jim-food
ok lets say you have it all correct, the seeds where bad/ bad batch... i cant help you in here with that, only support can
19:56:21
and i said that many times already
19:56:28
+Cerebral_Nomad
Tell me more about your setup
19:56:44
+sif
i know jim. and am not trying to be a pain.
19:56:49
@Jim-food
good morning btw Cerebral
19:57:01
+Cerebral_Nomad
Mornin
19:57:25
+sif
i have several. Coca with 6* 600hps using canna
19:57:34
coco19:58:04

@Jim-food
sif 1 question, what did customer support replied when you sended your complain ?19:58:19
+sif
i recon it must have been a bad batch, because here's another thing, they took longer than the Jock Horror
19:58:29
nothing
19:58:38
@Jim-food
so they diddnt reply yet
19:58:55
[09:40] <+sif> sent complaint about the quality of your AK48 via email support a week ago and all I get is emails trying to sell me more shit without any explanation why these products with crap.
19:59:20
+sif
just sent an email saying they had seen i had visited the website and looked at stuff but not purchased. why? that was the email
19:59:26
+Cerebral_Nomad
Well I will vouch for that...Its not as quick as they say
19:59:32
@Jim-food
you are not the only 1 who sents in mails, and its the busiest time of the year...also told you that last time
19:59:47
we have a automail, customer mail, support....all mails
20:00:11
+sif
you know when you put 3 months into a grow and end up with fluff, not cool
20:00:15
@Jim-food
so when your ticket comes up they get back to you regarding the problem, not trying to sell you anything
20:00:24
+sif
oh ok
20:00:53
@Jim-food
and as you just heard, another customer in here grew the same...no problem
20:01:02
and many grew it, no problem
20:01:22
+sif
but the Jock Horror finished before the AK. and from what i read thats not right
20:01:44
@Jim-food
sif you start with a different thing every time...
20:01:54
you just have to wait for support, thats all i can say
20:02:01
i cant do shit about it in chat
20:02:02
+sif
you know the free seeds they send?
20:02:08
@Jim-food
i cant look into orders complains etc
20:02:22
whats up with the freebies ?
20:02:37
+Cerebral_Nomad
What about
20:02:39
+sif
what strains are they as they have no name?
20:02:40
+Cerebral_Nomad
em?
20:02:59
Mystery seeds
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+sif
hmmm
20:03:06
@Jim-food
as stated on the page, mystery asin mixed reg...so i dont know what seeds you get
20:03:08
+sif
males?
20:03:14
@Jim-food
reg...
20:03:33
+Cerebral_Nomad
possibly
20:03:42
+sif
females or males or mixed
20:03:59
@Jim-food
all reg, but mixed strains
20:04:09
+sif
females?
20:04:23
@Jim-food
30 year grow experience eh ?
20:04:24
+sif
sorry, so they could be males?
20:04:29
+Cerebral_Nomad
They are regular seeds dude
20:04:39
+sif
thats scary
20:04:53
+Cerebral_Nomad
scary?

20:05:13
+sif
pleased i asked that could have been a dissaster if a male flowered in the female room
20:05:26
then i could sell you seeds...lol
20:05:56
+Cerebral_Nomad
Uhmmmm....that's why you remove males
20:06:25
+sif
i know that. but i don't want any males near my female rooms
20:06:53
will just have to be aware when they flower, atleast now i know
20:07:14
because i assumed they were only females
20:07:35
@Jim-food
sif diddnt you had so much experience like you said last time ?
20:08:12
+sif
i have, but i never realised you were sending free MALE seeds as well as female,
20:08:16
@Jim-food
this is not very convicing to be honest...
20:08:33
+sif
whats not convincing?
20:08:33
+Cerebral_Nomad
How could they only be female seeds?
20:08:34
@Jim-food
there are no male seeds...
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+sif
Feminised
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@Jim-food
then they would called 10 fem freebies...not 10 reg
20:09:09
and if you need to ask if reg is also male
20:09:27
+sif
i,m an idiot for assuming they were females then.
20:09:27
@Jim-food
and then tell me they are male seeds which dont excist even....
20:09:47
the first part is correct
20:09:52
+sif
these are the free ones i'm referring to
20:10:34
@Jim-food
well the free are reg, so they can become male or female....they are not male seeds... male seeds dont exist

End,

But there Is More. So as admitted the free seeds can be either Male or Female. Stay away from Nirvana and pass this message around. I think the review on the website are false. you can pay for a review starting at $5.

Nirvana, i would love you to respond and post the rest of the chat.

Pai.
 

Sif1

Well-Known Member
i shouldn't of taken the time to read that. sounds like you didn't get the stellar pheno you were hoping for. 1. thats how it is and 2. you sounds very rude in your messages, i wouldn't help you out either=]

https://www.rollitup.org/t/riu-breeders.904833/[/QUOT

Don't want to be helped out by Nirvana .probably send me hermaphrodites. "we send both males and females...lol)".

That's my experience man and i feel i should alert others to the perils of these seed banks. And i am annoyed , 3 month grow for a bunch of ak48 fluff . what a joke. Had enough of the Fluff.
 
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The420Guru

Active Member
This is going to be a short intro. Basically sharing my experience with Nirvana Seed Bank.

Purchased AK48, Jock Horror, Northern Lights, and got 10 free seeds. haha

Me. 30yrs growing experience. Plus growing Garlic, Chillies and Tomatoes. All in Hydro, and Coco. Plus computerised C2o and temp controls all in commercial growing units up to 10,000 plants. Your questions are welcomed.

The above seeds took 1 week to crack, with a success rate of 75%.
After reading the reviews on Nirvana i was sure i had found the ONE. No it wasn't, turned out to be a crapping piece of fluff. Air-rated fluff. Contacted Nirvana on several occasions to no avail only to be insulted by a internet forum troll only to be told it was me and not the seeds.

Here is the conversation. I am Sif


http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/nexgen-t3-pro-trader-software-the-woodlands-texas-c119888.html

o Lazy_jim

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19:38:38

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@Lazy_jim

Welcome to Nirvana's #420 chat sif

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19:40:17

+sif

sent complaint about the quality of your AK48 via email support a week ago and all I get is emails trying to sell me more shit without any explanation why these products with crap.

19:41:13

Thought you had a better rep than that.

19:46:00
+Cerebral_Nomad
What happened?
19:46:34
+sif
fluffy fluffy fluffy
19:46:46
didn't harden up at all
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@Lazy_jim
Welcome to Nirvana's #420 chat Cerebral_Nomad
19:46:58
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19:47:26
+sif
dissapointed to the max.
19:47:55
+Cerebral_Nomad
Elaborate?
19:48:28
Bad AK48?
19:48:53
@Jim-food
sif like i said you have to solve that with customer support
19:49:05
im not customer support and i cant do anything about it
19:49:41
+Cerebral_Nomad
Seeds not poppin?
19:49:56
+sif
well they won't respond, so whats the answer??
19:50:37
@Jim-food
well if they diddnt responded yet then give them some time
19:50:42
or fill in another ticket
19:50:43
+sif
seeds took a week to pop, at that point i thought perhaps something might be wrong
19:51:10
@Jim-food
many things could went wrong, but i do know that we have beginners who never grew before and they managed to get decent buds
19:51:47
+sif
why does everyone say how gr8 it is and i end up with fluffy fluff
19:51:59
+Cerebral_Nomad
How did you germ?19:52:05
+sif
perhaps they don't know what gr8 actually is
19:52:06
@Jim-food
well where is the mistake then sif ??
19:52:14
they all grow perfect buds, except you
19:52:18
they all talk bs ?
19:52:35
sif maybe you dont know how to grow
19:52:55
+Cerebral_Nomad
Ive grown AK48 with no probs
19:52:59
+sif
there was something badly wrong. i don't know what. thats what i am trying to assertain
19:53:17
@Jim-food
no you are not trying...all you do is complain the seeds are bad sif
19:53:25
+sif
I know how to grow, don't worry about that
19:53:35
@Jim-food
like i said, sent another mail to support, ask for a explenation etc
19:53:37
+sif
because they were
19:53:49
@Jim-food
but i cant help you with it like i also mentioned before in chat
19:53:58
+sif
i don't want to complain. last thing i want to do
19:54:12
+Cerebral_Nomad
Its not unheard of for seeds to take a week to crack
19:54:21
+sif
but i gave clones to other growers and they all had the same problem
19:55:00
I actually came on here in the that they were cracking saying they were taking along time
19:55:08
that week
19:55:19
+Cerebral_Nomad
What was the prob?
19:55:44
+sif
they were really fluffy, never hardened up
19:55:49
air rated
19:56:10
@Jim-food
ok lets say you have it all correct, the seeds where bad/ bad batch... i cant help you in here with that, only support can
19:56:21
and i said that many times already
19:56:28
+Cerebral_Nomad
Tell me more about your setup
19:56:44
+sif
i know jim. and am not trying to be a pain.
19:56:49
@Jim-food
good morning btw Cerebral
19:57:01
+Cerebral_Nomad
Mornin
19:57:25
+sif
i have several. Coca with 6* 600hps using canna
19:57:34
coco19:58:04

@Jim-food
sif 1 question, what did customer support replied when you sended your complain ?19:58:19
+sif
i recon it must have been a bad batch, because here's another thing, they took longer than the Jock Horror
19:58:29
nothing
19:58:38
@Jim-food
so they diddnt reply yet
19:58:55
[09:40] <+sif> sent complaint about the quality of your AK48 via email support a week ago and all I get is emails trying to sell me more shit without any explanation why these products with crap.
19:59:20
+sif
just sent an email saying they had seen i had visited the website and looked at stuff but not purchased. why? that was the email
19:59:26
+Cerebral_Nomad
Well I will vouch for that...Its not as quick as they say
19:59:32
@Jim-food
you are not the only 1 who sents in mails, and its the busiest time of the year...also told you that last time
19:59:47
we have a automail, customer mail, support....all mails
20:00:11
+sif
you know when you put 3 months into a grow and end up with fluff, not cool
20:00:15
@Jim-food
so when your ticket comes up they get back to you regarding the problem, not trying to sell you anything
20:00:24
+sif
oh ok
20:00:53
@Jim-food
and as you just heard, another customer in here grew the same...no problem
20:01:02
and many grew it, no problem
20:01:22
+sif
but the Jock Horror finished before the AK. and from what i read thats not right
20:01:44
@Jim-food
sif you start with a different thing every time...
20:01:54
you just have to wait for support, thats all i can say
20:02:01
i cant do shit about it in chat
20:02:02
+sif
you know the free seeds they send?
20:02:08
@Jim-food
i cant look into orders complains etc
20:02:22
whats up with the freebies ?
20:02:37
+Cerebral_Nomad
What about
20:02:39
+sif
what strains are they as they have no name?
20:02:40
+Cerebral_Nomad
em?
20:02:59
Mystery seeds
20:03:05
+sif
hmmm
20:03:06
@Jim-food
as stated on the page, mystery asin mixed reg...so i dont know what seeds you get
20:03:08
+sif
males?
20:03:14
@Jim-food
reg...
20:03:33
+Cerebral_Nomad
possibly
20:03:42
+sif
females or males or mixed
20:03:59
@Jim-food
all reg, but mixed strains
20:04:09
+sif
females?
20:04:23
@Jim-food
30 year grow experience eh ?
20:04:24
+sif
sorry, so they could be males?
20:04:29
+Cerebral_Nomad
They are regular seeds dude
20:04:39
+sif
thats scary
20:04:53
+Cerebral_Nomad
scary?

20:05:13
+sif
pleased i asked that could have been a dissaster if a male flowered in the female room
20:05:26
then i could sell you seeds...lol
20:05:56
+Cerebral_Nomad
Uhmmmm....that's why you remove males
20:06:25
+sif
i know that. but i don't want any males near my female rooms
20:06:53
will just have to be aware when they flower, atleast now i know
20:07:14
because i assumed they were only females
20:07:35
@Jim-food
sif diddnt you had so much experience like you said last time ?
20:08:12
+sif
i have, but i never realised you were sending free MALE seeds as well as female,
20:08:16
@Jim-food
this is not very convicing to be honest...
20:08:33
+sif
whats not convincing?
20:08:33
+Cerebral_Nomad
How could they only be female seeds?
20:08:34
@Jim-food
there are no male seeds...
20:08:45
+sif
Feminised
20:09:02
@Jim-food
then they would called 10 fem freebies...not 10 reg
20:09:09
and if you need to ask if reg is also male
20:09:27
+sif
i,m an idiot for assuming they were females then.
20:09:27
@Jim-food
and then tell me they are male seeds which dont excist even....
20:09:47
the first part is correct
20:09:52
+sif
these are the free ones i'm referring to
20:10:34
@Jim-food
well the free are reg, so they can become male or female....they are not male seeds... male seeds dont exist

End,

But there Is More. So as admitted the free seeds can be either Male or Female. Stay away from Nirvana and pass this message around. I think the review on the website are false. you can pay for a review starting at $5.

Nirvana, i would love you to respond and post the rest of the chat.

Pai.
Wow my seeds I get from them pop in 1 day maybe 2 max. But then again I have some secrets
 

Cannacat

Well-Known Member
You just come off as being rude, to be honest. Like, I appreciate you being pissed off after putting the work into the grow and getting shit, but you know, shit happens! And I think it's fair enough you wanting it looked into to see if it was a bad batch or whatever, that makes sense. But the dude told you over and over he couldn't help you in chat and you kept on at him like it was personally his fault, that's not cool man. And surely as an experienced grower you didn't really need to ask about the seeds being male (?) if it clearly stated they were regular seeds, like it's a freebie, take it or leave it but don't carry on like they're intentionally trying to sabotage your grow room by sending you a clearly labelled fucking freebie to thank you for your custom!
 

Bbcchance

Well-Known Member
Purchase direct from the breeder, way better customer service and when you are the breeder you truly care about how the seeds grew,breeders boutique has hands down the best customer service I have ever dealt with, and the customer service guy I dealt with was Don himself, but just a fair warning, their seeds come in 10 packs and are regular in most cases, so you will have to weed out the males yourself
 

keysmachine

Well-Known Member
Two seed banks I've never grown a thing from years and years of reading poor quality and weak genetic reviews are Barney's Farm and Nirvana.


Order some Bodhi seeds, don't gamble with inferior breeders.
and yet every grow i've had even seeds i've kept in a bag for almost a year have grown from nirvana seeds. have been perfect.

that's like saying you buy a nice car but something happened to it off the assembly line and you get a lemon. then attribute all cars of that make and model as shitty.

the simple fact of the matter is. weed heads are like wine advocates every wine has to be special and unique and "pure". all weed gets you stoned. all quality weed gets you stoned. is that not the goal here? to get stoned?
 

Bbcchance

Well-Known Member
and yet every grow i've had even seeds i've kept in a bag for almost a year have grown from nirvana seeds. have been perfect.

that's like saying you buy a nice car but something happened to it off the assembly line and you get a lemon. then attribute all cars of that make and model as shitty.

the simple fact of the matter is. weed heads are like wine advocates every wine has to be special and unique and "pure". all weed gets you stoned. all quality weed gets you stoned. is that not the goal here? to get stoned?
Getting stoned is cool, but the grower in me wants that perfect grow too, I want to have that non-stop even growing pattern with the perfect amount of tops and tons of crystal with abosolutely no probs from any excessive nutes, or defficiencies from lack of...the plant will yield at least a lb. And be FIRE!!!! so every time I place a seed order I want to at least feel like this could be the grow......and when you have such poor performance from a product and receive a less than expected answer from the vendors I can understand how it got me high though can turn you away from said vendors
 

bird mcbride

Well-Known Member
That being said, with a less than 10% keeper rate, do you continue to work with that strain or focus on a more predictable one?
I stick with genetics that are proven in the op.
The seeds are placed directly into the table under 12/12, 1kw HPS/HID set at 44",s from glass to rock. When the time comes they are FIMM,d and coded. The snip(s) go in the bin. If any undesirable traits show the seed is yanked and it's clone go in the bunk bag.
If the thing does okay the rooted snip gets a spot in the mother room :) The rest of the snips that their seedling done...alright go for budding in the next round.

Keep the best...bud out the rest :)
 

Tangerine_

Well-Known Member
The timelines listed in breeders' description are just a loose guideline.

From Nirvana's page regarding the free seeds: ."Nirvana is offering 10 mixed regular marijuana seeds for free. As they're mixed, we can not tell you what strain it is."

One would think a seasoned grower would certainly have a firm understanding of cannabis in general (phenotype/genotype etc) and course know the difference between regular and feminized?

With all the reputable (even commercial) breeders to choose from, Nirvana seeds tend to be one that new growers use due to price point and/or lack of research or experience. Personally, I wouldn't waste a single square inch of my indoor growing space on "breeders" like Nirvana. In my opinion the genetics are questionable.

Of course growers have the right to question whether or not they received a bad batch, but honestly, language barriers aside, your complaints come off as a bit pretentious and rude.
 
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Gaz29

Well-Known Member
Purchase direct from the breeder, way better customer service and when you are the breeder you truly care about how the seeds grew,breeders boutique has hands down the best customer service I have ever dealt with, and the customer service guy I dealt with was Don himself, but just a fair warning, their seeds come in 10 packs and are regular in most cases, so you will have to weed out the males yourself
Nirvana are breeders too.. I used them for my 2nd seed buy ( circa 5yrs ago ).. and those freebies are fkn old stock, i bought 5 x papaya n 5 x aurora-indica, the papaya were listed as greasy indica-dom etc.. I grew 3 papaya n ALL 3 were sativa-dom.! (Only popped 1 aurora-indica, wasn't good.) :-(
I WON'T use nirvana's again.. NOT recommended, happy growing,
Gaz
 

donkmstr

Member
I gave nirvana another chance this year,same result,garbage in my book.I have tried most some of these new breeders I have had 100 % germ rate and some of them beans are the cheapeztb you can buy. Go figure.I've been known to drop thousands a year on beans and nirvana will never see my green again
 

HydroRed

Well-Known Member
I can totally relate to feeling salty about a bunk seed purchase. With seed purchases I always go with the "expect the worst but hope for the best" mindset. I think your approach may have been your setback in getting treated better though.
I fought with a breeder in NL from the States over numerous orders not getting recieved and no refund for like 4-5 months. I will no longer send them money & I let my $$ do the talking with other breeders now.
 

420monster

Well-Known Member
I have never had a problem with nirvana sure they don't have all the latest and greatest strains but there cheap and have some decent strains I have not ever been disappointed in fact I have nirvana blue mystic and northerlights in flower now at about 5 and a half weeks and they look great

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