lukio

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Man you're never going to pop them
aha theyre next bro, i promise ya! and the Chem Kesey. there was a really great review in the Bodhi thread on the Chem Kesey, did you see it? i cant remember his name...i'll try n find it.
Why are you waiting?
space, man. plus i like to travel so kinda work it all around this n that n work n stuffs - and its still illegal in the UK which is awkward (:

FYI, see I got the thread moved :) Thanks again for the idea.
oh sweeeeeet! should help dude, other area was slow! people gonna be lovin the fire in here
 

The Mantis

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aha theyre next bro, i promise ya! and the Chem Kesey. there was a really great review in the Bodhi thread on the Chem Kesey, did you see it? i cant remember his name...i'll try n find it.

space, man. plus i like to travel so kinda work it all around this n that n work n stuffs - and its still illegal in the UK which is awkward (:


oh sweeeeeet! should help dude, other area was slow! people gonna be lovin the fire in here
Thanks! Just read the smoke report. Nu-be is the man so yeah I would trust his opinion too. I'd like to hear your report on both of them compared to each other to see if you like the Chem or the TK better.
 

The Mantis

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I put every plant through hell to check stability and behavior. After cloning each plant, a day or two later I put one clone in a small 2x4 tent under led 11/13 to sex them/flower them out. Sometimes the humidity spikes up to over 90% and heat up to 100 degrees, then it's back to 70 degrees and 40% humidity with some light leaks and timing issues that pop up where I leave the door open too long or open it early. Over watering and under watering etc. Not ideal situations. Here's a few pics:

Black Triangle #3 @ 8 weeks.
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Hot Spot #5 @ 6.5 weeks
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New Berry #1 @ 6 weeks - see the nanner? Don't think it dropped pollen, no sacs, just this nanner.
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Zamaldelica #8 @ 5 weeks. Sneaky little nanner showing on the cola. There's a few open looking sacks hiding near the base stem at the top couple nodes too. This one looks like it dropped some pollen, but I saw no powder so not 100. This one is a stretcher too. #11 isn't stretching at all :)
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The Mantis

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Black Triangle harvested at 62 days. Day 3 of drying. Almost ready to put into jars. Smoked a small bud. Had the Triangle fruity smell and inhale, then the hashplant exhale. Amazing how different the high is compared to the Nikah and Love Triangle. Really cool to see the difference the male makes, and it really seems to change the high with the TK crosses. This one is the most indica and kind of makes me go crosseyed and put into a meditative like state. I smoked it first thing this morning so it kind of chilled me out too much. Nice frost and dense buds.
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The Mantis

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Too Buku #3 at 38days. Surprisingly, she has a really pineapple fruity smell to her. Unlike both parents. The Herijuana all had a sandlewood unappealing kind of smell/taste, whereas the Vietnam Black x Thai #3 mom had a mostly peppery smell with only a slight sweetness in the background. Lots of swelling bud sites on this one and looks like some nice hybrid vigor here.
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The Mantis

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Harvested a few small tester plants the last week: Too Buku #26, Monkey Balls #18, Dread Bread #10, and DLA5 #6.

The DLA5 #6 was the weakest of the group potency wise for me. Mostly hash flavored with a slight sweetness - acrid smells have faded completely on this one. Started 2 packs of the dla5s so hope to find one acrid one that's strong. Mostly a chill hash type of stone. Not heady just full body.
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Dread Bread #10 is the frostiest DB pheno so far. Mango fruity smells with this one and not much Ghani funk. Very quick onset of high. Roller coaster like rush sativa high.
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Too Buku #26 is pretty dense and has part of the smell of the herijuana line. All the heris had this sandlewood smell and taste that was pretty bland and not enjoyable. This has a little of that sandlewood smell but something layered on top of it now that makes it more like a old sock smell/afghani in there and a slight peppery smell that makes it quite enjoyable because of the novelty. Never had anything like it. Super strong (might be my strongest if not tied with the Nikah #7) head rush, wow I'm too high, type of onset that then led to a little disorientation and finally some calming. I know I'm biased bc it's a personal pollen chuck, but this is a very strong, fun strain for me and it might make for some stellar meds.
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Monkey Balls #18 bud dried up and got skinny on me compared to the wet bud. Saltine cracker like smell to me on this one. The taste is weird, not strong, kind of bland but not bad. It's just lacking like a void. Very strong though and has a creeper onset. You first feel it in the body and after 20-30 minutes I was yawning every minute and was barely able to peel myself off the couch. All body here. I see now why some folks really like this strain for the effects. For someone who has insomnia or needs to relax their body at night, this might be a good place to start.
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The Mantis

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OG Jack #2 @86days.
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Can't believe I let her go this long. Still a super sativa high soaring adventurous high reminiscent of the original early 2000's Jack Herer that was the rage in Amsterdam.

When I first grew out the Sannies Jack back in 2011, they grew very uniform, but the buds looked different and the high was much different that I had remembered of the original Sensi Jack Herer circa 2001. Parts were there but the haze like high was gone. IMO Sannie might have selected wrong/different or too much towards a clear headed sativa high somehow. It might evolve after f2ing in a new environment I believe, and I'll find that out soon enough with some f2s I'm growing out now.

But what's cool about this OG Jack pollen chuck, is that the Tahoe OG seems to have brought back to live the original Jack Herer haze high that I remember. Almost exactly. And the taste is way more reminiscent of the old Jack. No real Tahoe taste or smell here, but I'm guessing the high THC of the Tahoe helped bring out more THC in the cross. Not sure how it all works genetically, but that's just my guess in layman's terms.
 

The Mantis

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Few bud shots to post here today.

First is Blue Orca x '85RKS/Uruapan #11 from Swami Seeds at 66days. Definitely a nice skunky smell to all these so far. More sativa like plants, not too dominated by the Blue Orca. This one (or #10) might be the most Blue Orca leaning.
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Here's the OG Jack #11 @50days. This one is a little more Tahoe leaning but still greatly influenced by the Jack. Nice blend of Tahoe and Jack terps on this one.
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Last is a TGA Subcool strain, the Ace of Spades #3 @44days. This girl started to pack on the powder quickly like she's getting ready for a beauty pageant. 1st place gets a spot in my garden this year! The smells coming from her are great and I can certainly get a Black Cherry Soda smell to it. Really cool. No Jack influence in the smell on this girl at all
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The Mantis

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Almost done whittling away at sexing and selecting the first batch of about 1200 seeds. Only 2000 more to go! *and I keep adding more seeds because I admit, I'm addicted to buying seeds like most everyone else here! Once that dream of smoking the bud takes over my neural synapses, it's over. My cc # is already being entered.

In the last couple few weeks, we've started up:
- '91 Christmas
- Kashmir Azad
- Kandahar Afghan f2s
- Polecat '91 BX
- Cheese BX
- NL5 f2s

Working on selecting the plants for the next tent group thing to make some f2s and new f1s. Still deciding on how many BSHW males to use. Prob use all of them for an OP. Might as well.
 

joecanna17

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Great thread, strains, and pheno hunt you’ve got going on here, Mantis!

Do you have any more opinions or info on the Dread Bread you’ve run so far? Got some of those, and have been interested to find some more info on them than what I’ve seen so far online.

Regarding your old bean germination issues, you might wanna try popping them in a worm bin, if you have one going. From reading threads on the subject, it seems the worm bin method got the best consistent germ rates for those who tried it.
One of the people was working with a bunch of the old Ancestral Skunk from Sam’s 60s or 70s seed stock, and got much better germ rates than others trying to pop the same stock, for example. Have you checked the compost pile for surprise seedlings lately?

Good luck with the hunt, and hopefully you can get some more of the oldies popping soon!
 
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The Mantis

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Great thread, strains, and pheno hunt you’ve got going on here, Mantis!

Do you have any more opinions or info on the Dread Bread you’ve run so far? Got some of those, and have been interested to find some more info on them than what I’ve seen so far online.

Regarding your old bean germination issues, you might wanna try popping them in a worm bin, if you have one going. From reading threads on the subject, it seems the worm bin method got the best consistent germ rates for those who tried it.
One of the people was working with a bunch of the old Ancestral Skunk from Sam’s 60s or 70s seed stock, and got much better germ rates than others trying to pop the same stock, for example. Have you checked the compost pile for surprise seedlings lately?

Good luck with the hunt, and hopefully you can get some more of the oldies popping soon!
Thanks! Dread bread is great. Several phenos found so far, leaning each way, in the middle, and one super frosty fat pheno. I really like the omg male for what he brings.

Never tried worm bin but I got my germ rates up to 100% with some varieties, even some old ones so it's probably just old/poorly stored beans. And hey, even with new stuff I don't always bat 1.000. Only got 6/10 '91 Christmas. But all 6 are looking great ;)
 

The Mantis

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Ace of Spades #3 @59days. Fast chunker here and she smells great, like black cherry soda to me. Cool coloring too, like an amber/purple, but it's hard to see in this time elapse raw photo. Smoke report in a few days.
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lukio

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2000 seeds to go and adding more (:

looking good in here, man. i STILL havent popped Black Triangle aha! getting back back on the grow soon though. Running Bodhis Space Monkey and Cobra lips again
 
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