Seed Junkie Genetics

kingzt

kingzt

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Anybody try the wedding crasher crosses? Sj posted a grape pie x wedding crasher pheno that looked absolutely delectable. I got a ghost crasher going but I am nervous about her when I flip her to flower.
 
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Lil_smoker

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I have exploited 10 seeds of gelato 33 and all herms. Now I have also exploited 12 seeds Mitten cake Batter? Has someone germinated this? I am afraid that they are also herms. Seed Junk told me he would send me something new so that his clients are happy, but he never did it, breeder shit !!
 
jeepster1993

jeepster1993

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Lil_smoker said:
I have exploited 10 seeds of gelato 33 and all herms. Now I have also exploited 12 seeds Mitten cake Batter? Has someone germinated this? I am afraid that they are also herms. Seed Junk told me he would send me something new so that his clients are happy, but he never did it, breeder shit !!
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I have 2 Gelato 33's almost done and see no herms.

Now...I will go give them a good hard look though.
Will report back.
We are really too far along to do much about it now.
 
Strainwyze

Strainwyze

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Lil_smoker said:
I have exploited 10 seeds of gelato 33 and all herms. Now I have also exploited 12 seeds Mitten cake Batter? Has someone germinated this? I am afraid that they are also herms. Seed Junk told me he would send me something new so that his clients are happy, but he never did it, breeder shit !!
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No cause anyone that really values customer service would replace it
I wouldn't waste my money again if they don't fix it
I won't put something out if its questionable without testing it first !
Hence the reason for Beta Testers !!!!
Take care of the customer , they take care of you
Most "Breeders" are only out for a buck anyway
Very few actually care about the plant if you know what i mean
 
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Lil_smoker

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Strainwyze said:
No cause anyone that really values customer service would replace it
I wouldn't waste my money again if they don't fix it
I won't put something out if its questionable without testing it first !
Hence the reason for Beta Testers !!!!
Take care of the customer , they take care of you
Most "Breeders" are only out for a buck anyway
Very few actually care about the plant if you know what i mean
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My opinion is the same as yours. they are only worrying about getting rich by selling seeds at the price of gold. the buyer with these seeds is throwing away the money and what is worse a lot of time lost.
 
jeepster1993

jeepster1993

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I think...
Genetics are one of the most important parts of the grow.(Genetics and light...the 2 biggies)
I spend a good amount of time looking for my next grow. It took a fair amount of looking to get my current grow, Blue dream with CBD at a 1 or 1.5 to 1 ratio(15%thc and 10%CBD). Those seeds had to come from Spain as the US sellers were out or do not carry.

This Gelato S1 was also hard to get ahold of. I had to preorder to ensure I got some.

It is increasingly harder to choose good genetics though. There is a LOT of this crossed with that, then give it an exciting name and sell it. Then we plant it and it kinda turns science experimenty.
But there is also some dank being grown. The strength is off the scale on some of this stuff.
 
Observe & Report

Observe & Report

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waterproof808 said:
Some seed companies are definitely making a killing like Jigga for example, selling 1000 packs of Candy Rain at $500/pack = $500k.
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What makes you think he has actually sold 1000 packs? Neptune is sold out but Seedsluts has 47 packs available. I never heard of Seedsluts before I searched for this btw.

If the banks are selling them for $500 a pack, the wholesale is $250 a pack, tops.

They tried to get $800 each at first but they lowered the price to $500, I assume because they weren't moving.

Cookie Fam has had enough hype to make some money on seeds but I'm skeptical they can sell a thousand packs of anything but Certified GSC. What about Seed Junkie? When a bank gets a drop of ten strains how many packs of each do they get? Ten packs? Twenty? It's easy to get ballpark numbers and it's not big money. 10 strains x 20 packs $60 x 10-20 banks = $120-$240k tops I think most are more like 5-10 packs. It's a lot for me sitting at home but to a business with a licensed grow and maybe even an employee or two? Some of these guys are still underground but that really limits how big your business can be.

Seeds are a lifestyle business at best and I think as legalization spreads the business will shrink. I think most buyers are in illegal states. In legal states clones are much easier to find than seeds... I think seed/clone trading sites will also seriously eat into seed sales in the not too distant future.

Seeds just seems like a pretty small market to me. Especially compared to the markets for consumer products, compliance/ops/sales software, fertilizer, lights etc... Most seed makers probably make more money selling the flowers from pheno hunts.
 
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jayblaze710

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Observe & Report said:
What makes you think he has actually sold 1000 packs? Neptune is sold out but Seedsluts has 47 packs available. I never heard of Seedsluts before I searched for this btw.

If the banks are selling them for $500 a pack, the wholesale is $250 a pack, tops.

They tried to get $800 each at first but they lowered the price to $500, I assume because they weren't moving.

Cookie Fam has had enough hype to make some money on seeds but I'm skeptical they can sell a thousand packs of anything but Certified GSC. What about Seed Junkie? When a bank gets a drop of ten strains how many packs of each do they get? Ten packs? Twenty? It's easy to get ballpark numbers and it's not big money. 10 strains x 20 packs $60 x 10-20 banks = $120-$240k tops I think most are more like 5-10 packs. It's a lot for me sitting at home but to a business with a licensed grow and maybe even an employee or two? Some of these guys are still underground but that really limits how big your business can be.

Seeds are a lifestyle business at best and I think as legalization spreads the business will shrink. I think most buyers are in illegal states. In legal states clones are much easier to find than seeds... I think seed/clone trading sites will also seriously eat into seed sales in the not too distant future.

Seeds just seems like a pretty small market to me. Especially compared to the markets for consumer products, compliance/ops/sales software, fertilizer, lights etc... Most seed makers probably make more money selling the flowers from pheno hunts.
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This all of this. People love to complain about costs of seeds, but there’s probably only a handful of breeders that are making a living off of seeds. If growers want people to continue making seeds and continuing to create and find new quality stuff, you gotta pay for it. That doesn’t mean buying some knockoff crosses from somebody that “hunted” through a single pack, but buying from people actually putting the work in.

Throwing out Cookie fam is also a giant outlier. Those guys are making hundreds of thousands off swag alone, so when they release a new mystery cross, people will eat it up.
 
Strainwyze

Strainwyze

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jayblaze710 said:
This all of this. People love to complain about costs of seeds, but there’s probably only a handful of breeders that are making a living off of seeds. If growers want people to continue making seeds and continuing to create and find new quality stuff, you gotta pay for it. That doesn’t mean buying some knockoff crosses from somebody that “hunted” through a single pack, but buying from people actually putting the work in.

Throwing out Cookie fam is also a giant outlier. Those guys are making hundreds of thousands off swag alone, so when they release a new mystery cross, people will eat it up.
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AMEN To That !
Think @jayblaze710 hit it Dead On !
Gotta pay the premium sometimes cause Very Few Breeders Still do work
Sad but true
 
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