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Sleepybud said:
hotrodharley, so you think my situation isn't as dismal as others? I did mention(more than once, I believe), that I'm not trying to pull the same out of these as I was my HID bulbs, but just can't afford to run those at this particular time in my life. I've gotten a couple good grows, but my technique with getting all the tops at the same height wasn't accomplished.

Any help at all would be greatly appreciated.
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I too use crappy burple leds with some success. I have about 450w of actual covering a 2x3 area.
I veged for 4 weeks topping fim’ing tying and super cropping to keep the tops level.
I flipped and put the screen in and tried to keep everything under the screen until the stretch was over. Worked as many tops into squares as I could and removed everything else.
A screen full of 6 to 8” colas is what I ended up with first try.
Can’t wait to run these shitty lights again I know I can do better
 

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RIBrian! Gotta love New England!! When I first moved north from Fort Lauderdale, I lived in North Conway NH, so I went from super-flat and hot to wild mountains and snow/ice, but I LOVE it and would NEVER go back!

Those look nice and I like the under screen shot! That shows me that I'm in the ballpark and I'm guessing that I don't have to scrap everything I've got and go back to HID bulbs! I'm guessing that you clear out the under-screen foliage once it's ready to flip to flower?
 
Sleepybud said:
RIBrian! Gotta love New England!! When I first moved north from Fort Lauderdale, I lived in North Conway NH, so I went from super-flat and hot to wild mountains and snow/ice, but I LOVE it and would NEVER go back!

Those look nice and I like the under screen shot! That shows me that I'm in the ballpark and I'm guessing that I don't have to scrap everything I've got and go back to HID bulbs! I'm guessing that you clear out the under-screen foliage once it's ready to flip to flower?
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I actually clear everything. I had a pic after this but can’t seem to find it. Might be a side effect haha. Yeah you aren’t going to become Escobar but you can grow more than you need with what you have going on.

I love New Hampshire and New England.

I’m right back at it with my second grow now as the long days have allowed me to veg outdoors (1 closet). Plants have been in the garage under quarantine and will be under the screen soon! Growing NL and GDP from ILGM. After I get a little more experience I’m going to spend some $ on some real genetics
 
I must be lucky, as here in Maine, I can go to one of a number of caregiver-owned storefront dispensaries and get damned near anything for $15 a clone, plus if they're selling clones they've probably got some bud for sale, so I'll get a few buds to taste if they've got something new. Another reason New England is an awesome place to be in these new times! That's how I found Tangerine Dream! This one guy(caregiver) kept promising me these cuts and after about 2 months, he came to my house and just gave me 3 of them. Free! Yes, they were merely cuts and I had to do all the work to get them to be rooted, but I still ended up with 3 good, usable plants, so well worth the time and care!
 
Sleepybud said:
I must be lucky, as here in Maine, I can go to one of a number of caregiver-owned storefront dispensaries and get damned near anything for $15 a clone, plus if they're selling clones they've probably got some bud for sale, so I'll get a few buds to taste if they've got something new. Another reason New England is an awesome place to be in these new times! That's how I found Tangerine Dream! This one guy(caregiver) kept promising me these cuts and after about 2 months, he came to my house and just gave me 3 of them. Free! Yes, they were merely cuts and I had to do all the work to get them to be rooted, but I still ended up with 3 good, usable plants, so well worth the time and care!
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If you have an indoor grow be very cautious bringing ANY new plant in from the outside. Including vegetables. Bugs, powdery mildew and different funguses do cross. Suggest an area with a weak light and good air flow to watch it.
 
Dude, that's one fight that I definitely don't want to fight again(my first outdoor grow was in bags next to my lilacs which were loaded with PM), and I had to fight that off for about 4 months of spraying different agents every day(peroxide, organic apple cider vinegar(w/the mother), baby aspirin dissolved in water and EVOO)! I wore booties in my rooms and changed clothes/showered before entering my indoor room and seriously spent a damn 1/3 of a year dealing with it and I think my rooms must have built up a resistance as last year, I put a plant out near the lilacs(just for an experiment) again and it never got any PM! Is that possible to have built up an immunity? Last winter, I ripped out 9/10 of my lilac bush. Plus, ever since that infection I never come inside my grow rooms if I've even just been outdoors, as I live in the freakin woods on lots of non-developed property. No cross contamination ever again on my watch!

The only clone I've ever taken in was from a caregiver with a huge, warehouse grow that the guys wear full suits in there, but all the rest of my genetics either are continued by myself cloning them and seeds! He and the other caregiver that set me up when I got my first med card are the ONLY ones I've ever dealt with. I do have another isolation area too, but use it more for drying and like I said, no strange plants that

I have about 7 10 gallon grow bags that had plants with PM on them in a complete other part of my house. Do you think that after a few years of heavy winters and scorching summers just sitting in the corner of a concrete room, those bags are usable ever again or should I incinerate them like everything else that had PM?
 
Sleepybud said:
Dude, that's one fight that I definitely don't want to fight again(my first outdoor grow was in bags next to my lilacs which were loaded with PM), and I had to fight that off for about 4 months of spraying different agents every day(peroxide, organic apple cider vinegar(w/the mother), baby aspirin dissolved in water and EVOO)! I wore booties in my rooms and changed clothes/showered before entering my indoor room and seriously spent a damn 1/3 of a year dealing with it and I think my rooms must have built up a resistance as last year, I put a plant out near the lilacs(just for an experiment) again and it never got any PM! Is that possible to have built up an immunity? Last winter, I ripped out 9/10 of my lilac bush. Plus, ever since that infection I never come inside my grow rooms if I've even just been outdoors, as I live in the freakin woods on lots of non-developed property. No cross contamination ever again on my watch!

The only clone I've ever taken in was from a caregiver with a huge, warehouse grow that the guys wear full suits in there, but all the rest of my genetics either are continued by myself cloning them and seeds! He and the other caregiver that set me up when I got my first med card are the ONLY ones I've ever dealt with. I do have another isolation area too, but use it more for drying and like I said, no strange plants that

I have about 7 10 gallon grow bags that had plants with PM on them in a complete other part of my house. Do you think that after a few years of heavy winters and scorching summers just sitting in the corner of a concrete room, those bags are usable ever again or should I incinerate them like everything else that had PM?
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Trash them. Burn them. Then use sulphur burners.
 
I was trying to stay away from doing a sulphur burn in my house.

Do you think that though my rooms have had no signs of PM, that it's still not gone?
 
I've got 2 of my 'racks' going now, as I popped 2 MOB clones into it yesterday. The first one(TD x 2) is a few weeks ahead this(MOB x 2) new one on 18 hours of light.

I've got workbench-like table where I put my cloner and baby plants that I'm going to put the remainder of my small plants(Blue OG x 2, MOB x 1, Mandarin Sunset x 1, and Amnesia x 1) in 5 gallon buckets atop the table(I've got a rack of eight 4' T5's, that I can switch to four lights) on the same 18 hour timer, so I can try to learn this supercropping and even some LST that I can tie branches off, in an attempt to put that auxin to work so I can have some little budding beauties like hotrodharley pictured above. I'll put them into my flower room after they've vegged(can I use T-5's to veg?). Do you have a perpetual grow going with those?
 
Definitely read that about PM, and since my issues with it were years ago, I think I won. Using the stuff I did was a long, hard fight. I've seen absolutely no signs/symptoms in a few years, but I left those bags out in my 2nd garage in case it had a expiration period. I'll burn them after the season is over, as I don't even want to stir up a single spore if there is one at the beginning of the outdoor season(letting sleeping dogs lie).
 
Yes! That's my plan!

I've got more room in both rooms, than I'm using and I do have a couple other LED's that I can hang atop any other's I bring into each room!

In your opinion, if I were to add supplemental light to each room, what would you add? I've got some CFL's, floro T-5's and a 300w LED that I'm not using(plus four 600w HID's(Mh & HPS).
 
RIBrian said:
I too use crappy burple leds with some success. I have about 450w of actual covering a 2x3 area.
I veged for 4 weeks topping fim’ing tying and super cropping to keep the tops level.
I flipped and put the screen in and tried to keep everything under the screen until the stretch was over. Worked as many tops into squares as I could and removed everything else.
A screen full of 6 to 8” colas is what I ended up with first try.
Can’t wait to run these shitty lights again I know I can do better
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Just think of almost covering a 4x4 with 450 watts of quantum boards or strip lights. wow !!
 
Sleepybud said:
I'm not sure what that means. I think there's a language barrier for me. Many people post things like 'COB' , 'blurple', 'supercrop'... please try to remember I'm a relatively new to this and, I'm assuming, a tad older than the average age of person here.
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.. there's a pinned thread somewhere in forums with all the abbreviations, you might be interested in checking it out ? Good luck
 
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