budman111
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Making more friends again here Brobie I see LOL!
Scotts (MiracleGro) bought General Hydroponics
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budman111
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Most AN suckers are lol
BROBIE
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You said choice!!!I agree. I use this one:
That's what I like about Grow More. They give you a choice. I can have the cartoonish version for $6. Or, I can have the ordinary version for $6. Sometimes when I feel I'm not legit enough I paste my own Mad Magazine artwork onto my bottle. I even change the artwork each day because I think it makes a difference.
A better comparison of AN would be to a religion. "And Kushi Kush begat Sensi Bud. And Sensi Bud begat Wet Betty. And..."
I don't think you could fit AN's three-dimensional product line into the Book of Deuteronomy.
(I agree with you about Grow More's cannabis-themed products. I consider it unsavory. I've said so in other threads. I just glad they're not charging $80 for the label, like AN.).
budman111
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Is a 5-50-17 NPK needed!?I agree. I use this one:
That's what I like about Grow More. They give you a choice. I can have the cartoonish version for $6. Or, I can have the ordinary version for $6. Sometimes when I feel I'm not legit enough I paste my own Mad Magazine artwork onto my bottle. I even change the artwork each day because I think it makes a difference.
A better comparison of AN would be to a religion. "And Kushi Kush begat Sensi Bud. And Sensi Bud begat Wet Betty. And..."
I don't think you could fit AN's three-dimensional product line into the Book of Deuteronomy.
(I agree with you about Grow More's cannabis-themed products. I consider it unsavory. I've said so in other threads. I just glad they're not charging $80 for the label, like AN.).
unwine99
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I agree. I use this one:
That's what I like about Grow More. They give you a choice. I can have the cartoonish version for $6. Or, I can have the ordinary version for $6. Sometimes when I feel I'm not legit enough I paste my own Mad Magazine artwork onto my bottle. I even change the artwork each day because I think it makes a difference.
A better comparison of AN would be to a religion. "And Kushi Kush begat Sensi Bud. And Sensi Bud begat Wet Betty. And..."
I don't think you could fit AN's three-dimensional product line into the Book of Deuteronomy.
(I agree with you about Grow More's cannabis-themed products. I consider it unsavory. I've said so in other threads. I just glad they're not charging $80 for the label, like AN.).
I was going to say the same thing. How does all that P work out for you AZ?
budman111
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We have everything here Bomber...because we invented it
BROBIE
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Right off the bat obnoxious. Maybe with his other nutes it balances out. Maybe, just maybe, he does a little math.
churchhaze
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So chemistry is like communism because there aren't choices? It works the way it works, so that's communism? You want nutrients? Too bad!! The government will only allow H, C, O, N, P, K, Ca, Mg, S, Fe, B, Mn, Zn, Cu, Na, Cl, and Mo. That's communism!
budman111
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Please explain a scenario...?
BROBIE
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When you mix each discrete product to create an aggregated NPK value. See Churches life. Example. You have a grow formula and add a bloom booster, your result is a bloom formula. tada
pretty much how they came about with bloom boosters. But the rip off marketing came up with seperate bloom and grow formulas so you would buy more.
I use it near the end. I add enough to my base nutes to get an NPK ratio around 1-3-2. I think I see more dense buds, faster ripening. But, it's too soon to tell. Could just be stress.
BROBIE
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That's just crazy talk there !!
churchhaze
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10g yara calcium nitrate (the fertilizer grade (15.5-0-0 + 19% Ca)), 4g of the 5-50-17 in 4 gallons of final feeding solution would probably work. That's just a rough guess.
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churchhaze
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They're also ingredients in non-bloom formulas. You gotta source phosphate from somewhere.
Although what's strange is that I don't think that's how az2000 uses it.
BROBIE
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Basic stoichiometry, moles,mass,percentile conversions and such are too complex for many stoners on here. I won't mention any names like budman(jk)) It takes too much effort and is beyond their 8th grade education (this is when they started smoking pot)
AZ I'm sure is very capable.
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churchhaze
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But in a commutastical world, you'd just be able to follow a recipe. I'm sure the common stoner doesn't know the stoic involved in making cookies either. You just mix the stuff together and shake.
Although I really can't understand why people have such a hard time grasping stoichiometry. Wasn't everyone forced to learn it in early 11th grade? It's not exactly phd material.
budman111
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I dont personally see the need to put on a white coat and brew up some nutes, here I get 5L A+B grow for like £25-$37, lasts years and years and use it all the way through grow and bloom until harvest, maybe a half dosage of a PK if I think it is needed and that is it, I had a chemistry set when I was small 
BROBIE
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Which explains your present day handicap. The box said "DO NOT DRINK"I dont personally see the need to put on a white coat and brew up some nutes, here I get 5L A+B grow for like £25-$37 and use it all the way through grow until harvest, maybe a half dosage of a PK if I think it is needed and that is it, I had a chemistry set when I was small
churchhaze
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There is no need, it's just a lot cheaper. The last time I resupplied on salt was in 2012, and I'm finally due to get some more potassium nitrate and calcium nitrate. I've had this bag of calcium nitrate last me since 2009, and it's my main ingredient by mass.
I'm due for another 50 pound bag for another 30 bucks, and I guess I'll get 5 more pounds of potassium nitrate.
https://www.cropking.com/catalog/nutrients-nutrients-and-additives/calcium-nitrate-greenhouse-grade
I'm due for another 50 pound bag for another 30 bucks, and I guess I'll get 5 more pounds of potassium nitrate.
https://www.cropking.com/catalog/nutrients-nutrients-and-additives/calcium-nitrate-greenhouse-grade
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churchhaze
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.You may see it as playing, but in my mind, I'm just feeding the plants. It's just how I do it, and from my perspective, I see everyone else as playing. "which is the best brand"... ugh.. just follow the recipe and that's the best! Fuck brands.