Scotch Whisky / Bourbon Whiskey thread

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What Ever Happened to Old Crow, Once the ‘Pinnacle of American Whiskey’?

April 1987. James B. Beam Distilling Co. makes the liquor deal of the decade when it acquires all of National Distillers and Chemicals’ liquor portfolio. Ostensibly, this $545 million deal ($1.5 billion today) was about landing DeKuyper’s Peachtree Schnapps, then the hottest liqueur in America...
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“Today Old Crow is a bottom-shelf whiskey,” reads a recent Sotheby’s listing for vintage Old Crow, “a shadow of its former self, and this bottle is a testament to how glorious that former self really was.”
 
StonedGardener said:
Me too ! Why is that ? I was in a bar one day, and a fella was doing shots of Scotch. The bar-keep said, " I've never seen anybody do shots of scotch.
Ya love or hate that elixir. I was in Scotland a while back. Some of the gptop distillers said single malt was not their focus anymore. It was a clichhe, and that certain blends were the trend.
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Only true whisky drinkers appreciate ime it is why alot of folk just don't get it and it's not the choice drink with many younger folk over here neither they proly sell more batch gin these days and all that Vs a good single malt

StonedGardener said:
If ya titrate that scotch ( only a few drops of water ) , watch the magic happen ! The drink will swirl and twirl , releasing exquisite flavor and aroma !
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See I prefer it wae a couple of ice cubes no water and take wee sips and work it over your tongue to taste all the different notes for me that always worked better than with water Tae each to there own I suppose
 
SunnyJim said:
I think you've got it backwards, unless is a North Americanism. In Scotland, we produce whisky (no "e"), which outside of Scotland is known as Scotch, either single malt or blended. I think whiskey (with an "e") refers to the Irish or American product. All bourbon is whiskey, but not all whiskey is bourbon.

Is that right?
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Bourbon Whiskey is put in a clean barrel Whiskey isn't.
 
The US has specific regs for labeling liquor, many devised, fully codified and mandated in the 1960's although the bourbon requirements have been around since the 1800's. The "new, charred oak barrels" is just one of them required before the product can be called and labeled as "Bourbon".

I think the whisk(e)y is more of a geographic distinction although "Scotland's insistence on the term whisky ensures that consumers recognize the regional heritage and craftsmanship behind the product."

CFR- Code of Federal Regulation- Spells out specifics for liquor(s) contents and labeling.

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Whisky vs. Whiskey: The Legal and Geographic Divide - WIO

Regarding the world of spirits, few things confuse people more than the difference between whisky and whiskey.
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ttystikk said:
Please explain in more detail?
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Bourbon is put in a barrel that has never been used. Whiskey is put in barrels that have been used.

This is really bad after all these years I have learned to enjoy good Bourbon the clean taste but I'm not longer allowed to drink it because of my Cancer. Now Weed is ok. Go figure.
 
Apples to apples

American "blended bourbon" can be damn near anything

The cheapest American "bottled in bond" bourbon is better

CC 100 proof blended whisky is better than the cheapest BIB bourbon

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Sir Napsalot said:
American "blended bourbon" still has to be bourbon whereas Canadian "blended whiskey" can be practically anything
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Repeating yourself

BIB blended bourbon is bourbon. Label laws is bib equivalent.

CC 100 proof blended whisky is better than the cheapest BIB bourbon but what do I know I would drink it with a pickle juice chaser for kicks.

Cheers
 
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Sir Napsalot said:
Canadian "blended whiskey" can be practically anything
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AI Overview

Yes, that's a fair characterization. Canadian blended whiskey regulations allow for a wide variety of ingredients and processes, making it less restrictive than other national whisky styles. While Canadian whisky must be distilled and aged in Canada in wooden barrels for at least three years, the blend can be a mix of different grain distillates, including corn, rye, and malted barley, with additions of wine or spirits up to a certain percentage. This flexibility means a Canadian blended whiskey can range from light and smooth to bold and heavy.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Blending:
Canadian blended whiskey combines different grain distillates, often including corn, rye, and malted barley.
Aged for at least three years:
The spirits within the blend must be aged in wooden barrels for a minimum of three years in Canada.
Additions allowed:
Canadian law permits the addition of up to 9.09% of wine or spirits (aged a minimum of 2 years) and caramel colour.
Wide variety:
This flexibility allows Canadian distillers to create a diverse range of whiskies, from light and smooth to heavy and bold.

solakani said:
I would drink it with a pickle juice chaser for kicks.
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Pickleback - my brother raves about them. Perhaps it's time i tried one.


My preference is to try difference things when it comes to food and drink as variety is the spice of life. I can't imagine drinking the same beer for life as some do.

Seems Canadian guidelines for whisky are less restrictive/more flexible, resulting a more adventurous/sophisticated experience for the palate. Life is full of choices.
 
My first goto Bourbon in the 70's and 80's was bonded Heaven Hill. Switched to bonded Old Grand Dad for the next 20 years, last 10 years or so it's been OGD 114. Also opening more of the stuff I have squirreled away from back when bourbon was cheaper and available. Heaven Hill has a 7 year bonded that's pretty good (and value for $$)
 
BarnBuster said:
I've had more than one CC and ginger ale out in a bar.
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Blend master Dr. Don L PhD goes with Lot 40. Put it together with bib bourbon and make a Manhattan. Binge watch Mad Men reruns

Ingredients

1 ounce bib bourbon whisky
1 ounce Lot 40 blended whisky
1/2 ounce sweet vermouth
2-3 dashes or Angostura bitters
Maraschino cherry for garnish

Instructions

Combine all ingredients except for cherry in a large glass. Fill with ice and stir. Strain into a cocktail glass and garnish with cherry.
 
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