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Schwaggy P

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Which pheno do you favor and why?
I'm still testing them all, so I can't say for sure yet. Some of the phenos took much longer than others to finish, so there's been a lag in my ability to test them all. I like to give each pheno a few sessions to get an idea.

Of the three shown in the post, I like #9. She has a spicy melon hash taste that lingers after exhale with a nice quick acting, eye-lid swelling, relaxation.
 

CoB_nUt

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I can tell you have a really good vibe with your plants. Call you P.A.P.(plants always praying). Great photos nice comparison and reference shots. Nicely done schwaggy.

What's the nose on the choc covered strawberries and the choc diesal?
That ChemKasey looks like some:fire:
 

Schwaggy P

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I can tell you have a really good vibe with your plants. Call you P.A.P.(plants always praying). Great photos nice comparison and reference shots. Nicely done schwaggy.

What's the nose on the choc covered strawberries and the choc diesal?
That ChemKasey looks like some:fire:
Thank you!

The Chocolate Covered Strawberries smells like red berries (not specifically strawberries) with bitter kushy cocoa. Like baking chocolate, not sweet milk chocolate.

The Chocolate Diesel has a funky sour green Lifesaver candy smell.

The Chem Kesey is a solid plant that's an easy trim too.
 

Schwaggy P

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Cleaning up a tray early in flower. It's not really lollipopping or defoliating. Here are some before & afters. Not all plants are pictured, some had a natural nice open frame with little leaf crowding.

Ecto Cooler
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Skunky Brewster1
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SkunkyB2
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SkunkyB3
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Granny Skunk
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Granny Skunk roots
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Full Tray A: Before/After
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Full Tray B: Before/After
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Full Tray C: Before/After
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So it's nothing so extreme as pulling off every leaf, or stripping everything up the main stalk.

Here is the Skunky Brewster female which most resembled the SkunkyB male that pollinated the Chemdogs.
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outliergenetix

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hey man what is your opinion on the deep red striping i see on the chem kesey and chos diesel etc..? it is so pronounced and is a stripe not full purpleing of the stem so i wouldn't think P deficiency or stress. i read on another forum a cpl ppl saying they always seemed to be the keeper phenos regfardless of variety and it shows as a seedling yet i cannot imagine how that is possible it would indicate flavor, smell and resin quality. have you found this to be true or do you have any idea what it is or means?
on a related note another person said he has noticed 10k spectrum causng pigmentation responses and i kind of concur in the sense the one time i flowered under a 600watt t5ho with 12 10k bulbes i got the most and deepest coloring i have ever gotten. supposedly he let a 10k spectrum 90watt led shione on 1 branch to demo this and low and behold that one branch purpled. after reading that post i think it is possible this has not been noticed before especaially since most growers don't use full spectrum indoors. the argument against this would be the sun is a 10k spectrum basically so why not outdoors, now that said maybe the sun is providing vitamin D, solar radiation or some other thing that counters the expression to a point.
 
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Schwaggy P

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hey man what is your opinion on the deep red striping i see on the chem kesey and chos diesel etc..? it is so pronounced and is a stripe not full purpleing of the stem so i wouldn't think P deficiency or stress. i read on another forum a cpl ppl saying they always seemed to be the keeper phenos regfardless of variety and it shows as a seedling yet i cannot imagine how that is possible it would indicate flavor, smell and resin quality. have you found this to be true or do you have any idea what it is or means?
on a related note another person said he has noticed 10k spectrum causng pigmentation responses and i kind of concur in the sense the one time i flowered under a 600watt t5ho with 12 10k bulbes i got the most and deepest coloring i have ever gotten. supposedly he let a 10k spectrum 90watt led shione on 1 branch to demo this and low and behold that one branch purpled. after reading that post i think it is possible this has not been noticed before especaially since most growers don't use full spectrum indoors. the argument against this would be the sun is a 10k spectrum basically so why not outdoors, now that said maybe the sun is providing vitamin D, solar radiation or some other thing that counters the expression to a point.
I have not found a solid correlation between red/purple stripes and quality. I don’t know that I have seen clear solid striping on seedlings (admittedly never looked specifically for them) but I usually notice it on older stems.

When growing out the Jabba’s Stash, I marked seedlings that expressed purple stems to see if they were precursors to Bubba dominance and later purpling and found that they did not show significant correlation in either dominance or later purpling. So I would be reluctant to make keeper decisions based on such early indicators.

Specifically, in regards to the Chem Kesey and Chocolate Covered Strawberries expressing the red striping, those are in their later stages (Chem Kesey is fading in the picture), so perhaps this is due to deficiency.

I have experienced the most color variation when growing under full spectrum Blurple LEDs. If any plant had even the slightest tendency to express color, it would be intensified under these LEDs. The same cuts don’t express near the color variation under White LEDs so there is something to the spectral mixing that seems to play a role in this phenomenon.
 

outliergenetix

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I have not found a solid correlation between red/purple stripes and quality. I don’t know that I have seen clear solid striping on seedlings (admittedly never looked specifically for them) but I usually notice it on older stems.

When growing out the Jabba’s Stash, I marked seedlings that expressed purple stems to see if they were precursors to Bubba dominance and later purpling and found that they did not show significant correlation in either dominance or later purpling. So I would be reluctant to make keeper decisions based on such early indicators.

Specifically, in regards to the Chem Kesey and Chocolate Covered Strawberries expressing the red striping, those are in their later stages (Chem Kesey is fading in the picture), so perhaps this is due to deficiency.

I have experienced the most color variation when growing under full spectrum Blurple LEDs. If any plant had even the slightest tendency to express color, it would be intensified under these LEDs. The same cuts don’t express near the color variation under White LEDs so there is something to the spectral mixing that seems to play a role in this phenomenon.
interesting and i agree about the spectrum i had the same experience with 10k spectrum floros, they also frosted more but that is likeley the xtra uv those lights have. after hearing your experience and that other guys "experiment" it is probably true. when you say blurple tho do you mean like the old mars hydros? if so my brother gave me some after he moved and stopped growing. i never use em tho
 

Schwaggy P

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@Schwaggy P forgive me if you've shared but I've looked and haven't found, details of your photography equipment/approach? Thanks in advance.
I use a Canon DSLR EOS Rebel T6 with 18-55 ISII lens
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I use it for 3 types of shots:
  • Backdrop feature shots
  • Close up bud
  • In the garden/tent
The feature shots with a backdrop involve a stand on which I clip the fabric, a light, and the camera on a stand for a steady shot. I threw together a quick example shot with setup using Chem '91skva:
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So you can see the picture taken and the setup for that shot.

Close up bud shots are generally this same setup, but the camera is about 6inches from the bud. Here's a shot of Appalachian Super Skunk:
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The in the garden shots just involve me holding the camera to take pictures of the plants on the tables in the flower room or tents. This is Chocolate Mint OG in a tent:
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