Scared i messed up?

Justin1002

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a couple grow ago was about a year ago id say i used Miracle grow Organic and sucessfully completed a grow. now trying at it again. i think something might be wrong. The first leaves are Yellow/Brown/Black and then the leaves growing now are green looks pretty normal. i dont know ive heard a lot of stuff about Miracle grow and slow release Nitrogen. Does anyone know anything about Miracle grow Organic Soil? Very worried. and if there was a problem is it possible i could tough it out?
 

$bkbbudz$

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a couple grow ago was about a year ago id say i used Miracle grow Organic and sucessfully completed a grow. now trying at it again. i think something might be wrong. The first leaves are Yellow/Brown/Black and then the leaves growing now are green looks pretty normal. i dont know ive heard a lot of stuff about Miracle grow and slow release Nitrogen. Does anyone know anything about Miracle grow Organic Soil? Very worried. and if there was a problem is it possible i could tough it out?
The only MG product that does not have time release nutes is the Nature's Care Organic. However, I have seen a couple of growers use it and have several different issues....N toxicity, P and/or K deficiency, burn, magnesium, calcium issues etc. Personally, I have only ever done 1 grow in any type of MG product...but will never do so again. Too many other and much better options available.

Good Luck and Great Growz!
 

$bkbbudz$

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There is a member on RIU...Olive Drab Green...I believe he uses that product and pretty successfully...you may want to seek him out. He has a journal going that he just made an entry in so I believe he is online now.
 

SSHZ

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There are a few issues with that soil......

1. It will continue to release a high dose of N in flowering....this could delay flowering or send mixed signals to the plant, creating stress and hermies,

2. You can't control the dose of fertilizer the plant is getting so over-fertilization and salt toxicity (fert build-up in soil) is common

3. You need to amend the soil with more perlite and lime for good results- another expense

4. MG has been bought by Monsanto- a company you should not be purchasing from
 

Olive Drab Green

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Get the NC potting mix (Coco, Sphagnum, and Yucca with a little chicken shit mixed in), bone meal and blood meal for mid-veg transplant, and the Veg, Fruit, and Flower food. Also use a little garden lime from Epsoma. And organic unsulphured blackstrap for flower.
 

Olive Drab Green

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I suggest after 2-3 or so weeks in veg, transplant into a container with the bottom laced with a tablespoon or so of bone meal, top dress with half a teaspoon of blood meal. When it gets to flowering time, use the VFF food and molasses after a week or two. Make sure you mix the molasses with a lot of water. A teaspoon or two. And use garden lime for extra conditioning and buffering as well as cal mag. The potting mix will be able to drain well without perlite. It is coco so it conditions, buffers, drains, and holds well with little need to pH too often.
 

Olive Drab Green

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Oh, you'll need a third of a teaspoon in week 2-3 of VFF food as well. Use very little blood meal that early as it is hot. But the VFF food contains the microbes you need to eat your organic stuff in order to shit out the stuff the roots uptake. And remember, less is more until she gets bigger. But, in an organic setup, you don't feed the plant, you feed the microbial ecosystem in the substrate.
 

Olive Drab Green

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In fact, omit the blood meal until mid-to-late veg, assuming you veg a full month to month and a half and just transplant into the soil with the bottom eighth mixed with a tablespoon of bone meal and top dressing with 1/3 to 1/2 of a teaspoon VFF food in early veg (2/3 weeks or preferably first serious transplant) until you see whether or not you gave it a healthy or unhealthy amount.
 
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