Sativa outdoor new england whata you think?

Hey I'm wondering if anyone here has or plans to grow some sativas outdoors in new england?
any input as to whether or not this would be a good idea considering they're usually long flowering plants would be helpful. we tend to get our first frost early november if we're lucky and sometimes as early as mid october.
Any tips, tricks, warnings etc. would be greatly appreciated.
I'm also contemplating whether to plant my clones straight in the ground or 5-5+ gallon buckets, they'll be hidden in various forests. what do you guys think?

I plan on cloning my mother plants which are.. H. Snow, Nevilles haze, Strawberry haze, Arjan 1, Super Silver

i don't know.. i would hate to get them that far only to have frost to come early or something along those lines happening and either harvesting super early or even loosing all bud.. i am sure that they are ways to cover them some how so that they begin to flower much sooner than they would have naturally, but i would imagine this would require a lot of work on your part and im not sure how feasible it would be to do specailly with plants strewn around the country side..
maybe if you looked into a shorter flowering sativa indica cross.. something that has a lot of the same qualities that you are looking at in the strains that you listed, but something that has a much shorter flowering period.. i don't know.. would love to hear what some others have to say on this..

this solution may sound simplistic, but grow them in the buckets/pots/whatever and if it gets tooo rough for them get them into a greenhouse. it'd be easy to ghetto rig one up for a few weeks i'd imagine, and if the plants are looking like they're going to produce for you by that time you'll be able to better make the decision how much more $$ you're willing to put into the grow. I'm working on my second grow (first was wildly unsuccessful, i hate police) at any rate, and i'll be working in a VERY similar climate and this is something i'm debating. i may end up simply going with plants that'll finish up quicker. KEEP US POSTED!! happy growing friends!

Last year I did a bag seed grow and a few ended up being sativas. They finished with the rest so I guess it will be all right. I'm in Vermont by the way.

I've done a few sativas last year just as an experiment.Didn't fair out so well considering I'm 46 degrees lattitude.

An early flowering Sativa would be the best option ,IMO.

bumppp

thanks for all the responses so far guys, anyone with actual experience in this are or a similar situation?

I grew sour diesel in Michigan last summer. I picked it in mid november. The plant was very close to dead. I am glad I grew it though, because I ended up with two 10-12ft trees, that even though they didn't completely finish, I still got almost a LB of good weed.

If you are going to plant a bunch of plants, I would maybe try one or two sativas. But don't do all hazes unless you'll be able to bring them inside in november. My plants made it through a few deep frosts, like in the low twenties for ten hours straight, so they can survive frosts, but they progress really slow at that point. Also a few branches died.So you really would be better off with an indica.

There are things I could have done to make my grow finish, but they all drew a lot of attention. Most people recommend putting a bag in the plant at night when its cold, but I was too lazy to find a huge bag. Also some people said to heat big rocks during the day, then move them next to your plants at night, but again I was too lazy. So if you have time and a good spot, there are some things you can do.

Check out my grow from last summer. Good picks of what your plants will look like in november

https://www.rollitup.org/outdoor-growing/245826-my-first-grow.html

Um naveils haze is a big no no in ur area....
There is a strain called early sativa...but this is an idea take the tomato metal things that ppl put up to keep deer from eating ur plants...u
Could put one up normally and then one upside down on top so it makes a cage and then put clear garbage bags over it which makes a small green house; ) ?
Its an idea right...
Find a mold resistant plant.

Go to unleashdagreen.net forum talk to dashadow or kcrc there administration
They breed there own strains they have about anything ur looking for

For like 25-30 new England money you get any strain u won't and one mix pack 12 seds per pack (24seeds)
Cool guys excilent customer service...

They have sertain strains for geurilla grow and cold weather perfect for u..
Just tell him I sent u...
they some times send test strains to so u may end up with 30 or more seeds


Ok everybody I'm not trying to send anybody to another site I'm just trying to help him get good quality seeds for thebest price...

thanks dutch, good tip i never heard of them before.

i also forgot to add earlier that i'm growing Mandala Satori along with the others.
and just one indica, good bag seed so i guess that means i get to name it. haha.

Guess so...yea there not well none cause there from Canada and pretty much a lot of exsprinced growers...
To buy u have to pm them and they give u shipping info...
Its almost exactly like this forum just smaller...

bumppp it up

I had australian blue last year with no problems finished end of sept.

Hey BJ, sativas in New England are tricky. I am by no means an expert and only have a couple grows under my belt but the majority of my plants have been sativa dominant from bagseed and theses plants do not want to finish in October. If you have the means to artificially shorten the photoperiod (lengthen the dark period) then go for it. If not I would recommend an indica dominant or well mixed hybrid. Some sativas may finish before the first kill frost but it is a risk. Good luck growing!

Haha yea..... And palm trees flourish in the north pole! Cmon man I live in NE and I can tell u that the average frost is october 19( farmers almanac). Sum of those strains, if not all finish in November. Not trying to be mean but u can't seriously think that would work. It just doesn't add up man. The only way u could make that work is if u take em and finish em inside under 12/12 lighting.... Or if u have sum kind of magical greenhouse with heating that works in the NE winter. Good luck tho, I'm on ur side.

The other problem I had with my sativas were that they didn't start flowering until September almost a month after my indicas(early August). So not only do they take longer to finish, but they take longer to start flowering. This is what I didn't count on.

arrowslueth said:

Last year I did a bag seed grow and a few ended up being sativas. They finished with the rest so I guess it will be all right. I'm in Vermont by the way.

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Hey - I got a Potentially 90 percent or better sativa in the back yard. It's up to 75" tall and 60" wide. Flowering well the tops of pistils are turning orange one some buds. It's septemeber 25th. I am worried about it. The one in my "Profile" picture here was 2 years ago. It was a bag seed apparently indica cause I started it early indoors, and it only grew 42". That's at harvest. It also had the bigger leaves. I got well over 100 Grams out of it.

I just chopped all my outdoor Maui Wowee (3) trees. Started them indoors Feb. - March put them in the ground end of May. I did harvested (4) plants indoors like in August, switched them to 14 hours dark, low stress trained to reduce height, and about 9-10 weeks flower, good solid colas, dried yield was ok ( about 7 full mason jars now curing).
These same seeds started inside and planted in the ground outside, no low stress training, topped all (3), and they were gorgeous got to about 10-11' tall 20'+ diameter, huge great looking colas on tops and side branches, they loved Fox Farm nutes twice a week and I thought these plants were going to be superb with massive yield. NOT. I experienced 2 - 3 serious rain storms, high environment moisture and fog for couple weeks (most of September sucked), then started in with mold and bud rot. Harvested yesterday to salvage what I could and before our most recent monsoon made it a total loss. Harvest was at least 3 weeks early. There is something being dried but surely not the quality or quantity I was thinking with such great looking August trees. This story is sad and true.

firelane said:

The other problem I had with my sativas were that they didn't start flowering until September almost a month after my indicas(early August). So not only do they take longer to finish, but they take longer to start flowering. This is what I didn't count on.

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I feel your pain. I'm in the same boat as you. My Maui Wowee didn't start to bloom until late Aug/early Sep and finish will be when the frost takes them. Average frost date here is October 13th. I'm hoping for a long Indian summer.

Consider Dynasty seeds "Moose and Lobsta" . It's not a pure sativa, but it leans that way.

It goes well into October and can get big. I haven't grown it, but I've consumed some grown by a friend of a friend in north western Maine last year. It smells interesting and has some horsepower. Frankly, I think he got lucky it finished outside, which is why I've only thought about growing it. Might try one next year IN the greenhouse though.

seanmace54 said:

Hey - I got a Potentially 90 percent or better sativa in the back yard. It's up to 75" tall and 60" wide. Flowering well the tops of pistils are turning orange one some buds. It's septemeber 25th. I am worried about it. The one in my "Profile" picture here was 2 years ago. It was a bag seed apparently indica cause I started it early indoors, and it only grew 42". That's at harvest. It also had the bigger leaves. I got well over 100 Grams out of it.

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threeputt said:

I just chopped all my outdoor Maui Wowee (3) trees. Started them indoors Feb. - March put them in the ground end of May. I did harvested (4) plants indoors like in August, switched them to 14 hours dark, low stress trained to reduce height, and about 9-10 weeks flower, good solid colas, dried yield was ok ( about 7 full mason jars now curing).
These same seeds started inside and planted in the ground outside, no low stress training, topped all (3), and they were gorgeous got to about 10-11' tall 20'+ diameter, huge great looking colas on tops and side branches, they loved Fox Farm nutes twice a week and I thought these plants were going to be superb with massive yield. NOT. I experienced 2 - 3 serious rain storms, high environment moisture and fog for couple weeks (most of September sucked), then started in with mold and bud rot. Harvested yesterday to salvage what I could and before our most recent monsoon made it a total loss. Harvest was at least 3 weeks early. There is something being dried but surely not the quality or quantity I was thinking with such great looking August trees. This story is sad and true.

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bruno8437 said:

I feel your pain. I'm in the same boat as you. My Maui Wowee didn't start to bloom until late Aug/early Sep and finish will be when the frost takes them. Average frost date here is October 13th. I'm hoping for a long Indian summer.

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