Sativa and Indica

abins33

Active Member
Alright.....i'm a fairly newb grower....got a couple grows under the belt and ive been doing a crazy amount of research so all those veteran growers, PLEASE HELP!!!

Ive looked all over the internet and read up on different types of highs.....the cerebral highs and the "couch marathon" highs. But the problem is i can't cement any solid evidence on how to get either one. Ive read countless articles that say you can only get good cerebral highs from sativas and indicas give good couch or sleepy marathons. AND ive read countless articles that say if you harvest early when trichs are clear to opaque you get a good up and cerebral high....and when you wait for them to be a darker more amber brown color is when you get the real sedating highs.

Well which one is it or is it both??? Need some good advice cause im more of an up high kinda guy but all ive gotten in past harvests is sleepy bud.

Plus if you do know the answer fill me in on the color ratio for the trichs or the color ratio for the pistils of when to harvest....Thanks and happy token

PS- I got Northern Lights and Silver Haze comin in right now if that helps on the advice....
 

ghengiskhan

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The factors are almost endless. That's what makes weed so great in my opinion. The strain genetics, the harvest time, what it's feed, how it's cured, and many more things define how bud affects people. It even depends on the individual too. In general Indicas are more couchlock, good for sleep and physical pain, where as sativas are generally in your head. Certain things can make a plant lean more towards one way or another also.
 

Maxx

Active Member
interesting thread..
i just thought different types of weed gives u different highs,
didnt kno tht how u grow the weed affects it.. :D
 
whenever I harvest later (75% of hairs turned amber color) I get sleepy bud

i pulled early last time ---45-55 % of the pistils had turned an amber color and have generally less sleepy bud ----

although I do agree with Gengiskhan, no plants DNA is ever the same....excpet for clones. so every seed someone plants will have slightly different characteristics from another seed, even if they are from the same strain.
 

blinkykush

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honestly i would suggest keeping it way more simple stupid then that. what i mean is there are so many hurdles that lay ahead for you before you can even begin to experience what High you will recieve. Trust me this hobby is rewarding and very fun in my experience but in know way is it a cake walk, lots of variables and a huge learning ladder just in the doings of growing that your gonna experience first. I am new, and can tell you that everyone will have a different answer for your question based on their individual experiences.Pick a strain, grow it well, harvest it better, there you have your own experience my friend. good luck
 

pig420

Active Member
On my first grow I didn't have the patience or the knowledge and I didn't wait I harvested way to early, all the pistils were white and the buds were airy.
But I got the high that you are looking for. I don't know what strain it was and I had a cheap cfl setup growing some crap bagseed. I have never heard that harvesting early get you a cleaner high but now that u mentioned it i'm kind of curious.
 

nfw66

Active Member
for my first grow i grew a sativa but was used to smoking indica and getting the couch lock effect,so i thought the sativa would be a change and i was expecting a non couch effect,well wrong i was ,i let the hairs mostly turn amber and bang it would drop me on my ass sleep sleep...that plant was ahermie also and so i grew out one of the seeds recently until 50/50 red hairs to white hairs this plant turned out to be a female ,well i didnt get the couch lock but it was way too strong for what i like lol.. the strong sativa just did my head in and then when the effect wears off it feels like you popped a dozen prozac,but the initial stone was too strong ,genetics play the largest role in determinig the overall effect,one strain might might be ideal at 50/50 hairs while another maybe totally different good luck to you in finding out :mrgreen:
 

email468

Well-Known Member
My understanding is the trichomes are more important than the variety (indica/sativa).

Generally speaking - sativas do offer more of a head high and Indicas the body stone.
But a later harvested sativa should have some body stone qualities and an early harvested Indica should have some head high qualities.

But as others have mentioned - there are many variables - including strain which is very important so it is best to get a variety and choose the one you like most. or better yet -- grow a few so you have different strains at the ready depending on what you're looking for!

If you are looking for an awesome head high - i can unequivocally and heartily recommend PPP (Pure Power Plant).

just my two cents...
 

nfw66

Active Member
matter of a fact im giving up for 6 months ,i got some stuff here bagged ..but im scared of the shit lol and a good break wont hurt
 

KAOSOWNER

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I agree with email the trichs are more important than pistil color to determine type of high. cloudy trichs = cerebral high. amber trichs = sleepy
 

nfw66

Active Member
yea looking athe the triches will tell be very accurate but i have only grown 2 plants and i dont need a glass to tell me what stage the triches are ..i bet i could tell just by looking at it
 

nfw66

Active Member
yea looking athe the triches will tell be very accurate but i have only grown 2 plants and i dont need a glass to tell me what stage the triches are ..i bet i could tell just by looking at it ,when the hairs are nearly all amber and very little or no new growth you could bet the trichs would be brown ....50/50 hairs cloudy,mostly white hairs clear..i wonder how many experienced growers get the glass out
 

KAOSOWNER

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most of them is my guess. I use it quite abit. hairs can be tricky there are a number of things that can make them change from white to red, brown prematurely. besides that i have grown strains where the whole plant was orange and all trichs were clear with about 15% cloudy would have been stupid to pick, but according to you it would have been to late.
 
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