Sanders -- Sturm und Drang

Fogdog

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Sanders had big ideas but little impact on Capitol Hill

He was on the committee that wrote Obamacare, he said, and he introduced what he called “the most comprehensive climate change legislation in the history of the Senate.”

“I have been criticized a lot for thinking big, for believing we can do great things as a nation,” Sanders said.

Rarely has that thinking translated into actual legislation or left a significant imprint on it, according to Democratic lawmakers and staffers who have worked with him.

Several top Democrats say the difference is a complete contrast to another progressive, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who has had a much clearer impact on the financial and inequality discussions in just the three years she’s been in the Senate.

Liberal Sen. Tammy Baldwin (D-Wis.), a Hillary Clinton supporter who describes herself as a big Sanders fan, struggled when asked ahead of last month’s debate in Milwaukee if she could point to examples of the Vermont senator’s actually influencing the outcome of legislation, other than the much praised bipartisan Veterans Affairs reform he led as chairman of that committee in the Senate.

“Um,” she said, pausing for a full eight seconds while thinking, “I’m sure I could. In terms of the things that he talks the most about, is when he was chair of the Veterans Affairs committee. But he actually compromised on a whole heck of a lot. Back in … it’s not coming to my mind right now.”


First -- what the fuck is he doing, bragging about being on the committee that wrote health care legislation he loathes. The second brag is perfect example of self aggrandizement -- that bill he introduced had no effect whatsoever.

Bernie is a divider, not a leader who gets things done.
 
Jesusfuck smogdog- you spend an awful lot of time bashing the one candidate most likely to support your interests.

No one else in the Democratic Party is gonna do it or they would have by now.

What are you afraid of?
 
Yeah, because he can't be actually debating on the merits or he'd lose, so he has to attack the source.
 
Jesusfuck smogdog- you spend an awful lot of time bashing the one candidate most likely to support your interests.

No one else in the Democratic Party is gonna do it or they would have by now.

What are you afraid of?
What sort of logic is this? Why hasn't Bernie already done it? He's had plenty of time. He's really waiting until the last minute considering his age, isn't he?
 
What sort of logic is this? Why hasn't Bernie already done it? He's had plenty of time. He's really waiting until the last minute considering his age, isn't he?
seventeen years and what does he have to show for it?

some solar water heaters installed in federal buildings.
 
Yeah, because he can't be actually debating on the merits or he'd lose, so he has to attack the source.
Water heaters? We should be excited about a twelve year career as Senator whose biggest accomplishment is a few solar water heaters?

Sturm und Drang but nothing to show for it. Kind of like you, tty. (and @Padawanbater2 )
 
Well, if we're talking about his accomplishments, let's not forget how he fractured the DNC which handed the gov't to the GOP.
 
Well, if we're talking about his accomplishments, let's not forget how he fractured the DNC which handed the gov't to the GOP.
True, that.

Sanders is a very divisive leader. Last year on a tour with Perez to show unity he showed everything but that. Makes me wonder if he cut a deal with the Kochs.
 
The Koch’s supported Clinton’s campaign. Not Bernie’s. Not Trump.
Why is Bernie Sanders refered to as “Bernie” while Clinton’s campaign tried to get us to use “Hillary” but she is still refered to as “Clinton”?
 
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