Sanders explains what democratic socialism is

UncleBuck

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The ACA never should have been implemented in the form it was. When Obama realized a single payer solution was dead he should have moved on.

He's had plenty of opportunity to leave a great legacy. He screwed the pooch. He got caught up in what he said he wouldn't, "politics". He likes the ring of the word, just not the taste. He's just not any good at it.

When you think about it, the task he's failed miserably, the only one that mattered, was to figure out how to unite the nation.

People may not agree with great leaders, but they will respect them and honor them when they lead.
good thing he didn't listen to you, because now millions more have insurance and health care costs have grown at the slowest rate they ever have.
 

schuylaar

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The ACA never should have been implemented in the form it was. When Obama realized a single payer solution was dead he should have moved on.

He's had plenty of opportunity to leave a great legacy. He screwed the pooch. He got caught up in what he said he wouldn't, "politics". He likes the ring of the word, just not the taste. He's just not any good at it.

When you think about it, the task he's failed miserably, the only one that mattered, was to figure out how to unite the nation.

People may not agree with great leaders, but they will respect them and honor them when they lead.
Osama bin laden..I'm gonna say that united and gave closure in a way I've not seen in my lifetime..although Bush's 'Mission Accomplished' is a close second:lol:
 

bearkat42

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Osama bin laden..I'm gonna say that united and gave closure in a way I've not seen in my lifetime..although Bush's 'Mission Accomplished' is a close second:lol:
1. "Major combat operations in Iraq have ended"
2. "In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed."

He was only off by what, 81/2 years?
 

ttystikk

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they lost already.
I'm not willing to write off candidates because they don't poll well a year out. Clinton didn't. Neither did either Bush- nor Obama.

I'm hoping/betting that enough people will find reasons to revolt against Mrs Clinton's 'inevitability' that Mr Sanders will prevail. It's happened before- regularly.
 

Flaming Pie

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I'm not willing to write off candidates because they don't poll well a year out. Clinton didn't. Neither did either Bush- nor Obama.

I'm hoping/betting that enough people will find reasons to revolt against Mrs Clinton's 'inevitability' that Mr Sanders will prevail. It's happened before- regularly.
I am hoping the american media is just putting forward who they would LIKE to win.

Clinton will never receive my vote.
 

schuylaar

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Who would you vote for if hypothetically (read: inevitably) Sanders drops out?
Why would he drop out?

The only reason candidates concede is because their money runs out..super pacs stop donating..this is where money can be to our advantage..sanders has no pac to appease, just his followers 'we the people'..don't you remember when this little 2016 shindig first started? The Mittster and JEB! we're both rivaling for same funds from the American Vatican (Kochs)
They wouldn't fund Mitt, so he never announced:lol:

Here's the kicker..Bernies money rivals superpac money..Americans love to donate a good cause..wait.. You haven't seen anything yet because ' we the people' are controlling his campaign..mainstream is unaware but will soon enough come to realize the power bestowed upon us by sanders by refusing super pac money.
 
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Flaming Pie

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Why would he drop out?

The only reason candidates concede is because their money runs out..super pacs stop donating..this is where money can be to our advantage..sanders has no pac to appease, just his followers 'we the people'..don't you remember when this little 2016 shindig first started? The Mittster and JEB! we're both rivaling for same funds from the American Vatican (Kochs)
They wouldn't fund Mitt, so he never announced:lol:

Here's the kicker..Bernies money rivals superpac money..Americans love to donate a good cause..wait.. You haven't seen anything yet because ' we the people' are controlling his campaign..mainstream is unaware but will soon enough come to realize the power bestowed upon us by sanders by refusing super pac money.
It would be nice to see that happen. I would much rather have sanders than hillary. If I were to be voting that way.

Still a month or so and a couple debates to watch.
 

ttystikk

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It would be nice to see that happen. I would much rather have sanders than hillary. If I were to be voting that way.

Still a month or so and a couple debates to watch.
Speaking as a liberal, now 'social' democrat- thanks to Bernie, we now have a name- I'm curious as to whom else you might consider? The republican party candidates seem to be falling all over themselves to be championing causes that are either irrelevant or outright inimical to the needs of their constituents. And you say you'd rather not vote for Mrs Clinton. Well then- who?!
 

Flaming Pie

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Speaking as a liberal, now 'social' democrat- thanks to Bernie, we now have a name- I'm curious as to whom else you might consider? The republican party candidates seem to be falling all over themselves to be championing causes that are either irrelevant or outright inimical to the needs of their constituents. And you say you'd rather not vote for Mrs Clinton. Well then- who?!
It's no secret that I like Ben carson. The media is doing a good job of twisting his words and rewording his statements.

I always double check things and go straight to the source. Actual video of his statements.
 

Harrekin

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Why would he drop out?

The only reason candidates concede is because their money runs out..super pacs stop donating..this is where money can be to our advantage..sanders has no pac to appease, just his followers 'we the people'..don't you remember when this little 2016 shindig first started? The Mittster and JEB! we're both rivaling for same funds from the American Vatican (Kochs)
They wouldn't fund Mitt, so he never announced:lol:

Here's the kicker..Bernies money rivals superpac money..Americans love to donate a good cause..wait.. You haven't seen anything yet because ' we the people' are controlling his campaign..mainstream is unaware but will soon enough come to realize the power bestowed upon us by sanders by refusing super pac money.
"We have the support, wait and see" - Ron Paul, 2012
 

schuylaar

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"We have the support, wait and see" - Ron Paul, 2012
Good morning Irish!<hug>

Citation? His candidacy donors list is available how does he measure up financially to Sanders at same time and point in the process?..please post so we may compare..*spoiler alert*..Google will be required.
 
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