same sex marriage hearing

joepro

joepro

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We our a country based on law, not personal opinions.
It would have be unconstitutional for gay marriage not to come up for a vote.
(since the gov't is all up in the ass of marriage)

I've been with my girl for 9 yrs and living with for 8 yrs.
We both share the same view that people change over time, so marriage isn't in our cards.
If were together intill old age, then so be it.
Now, in the eyes of the gov't after 7 yrs, she has become my common wife.
This gives us both almost the same rights as a married couple(death rights/insurance)

Is there any difference how a gay couple is treated to a hetero couple after 7yrs?
If so, then that's the fight that needs to be fought, not the act of marriage.

we don't have a constitutional right to the institution of marriage.
We do however have a constitutional right to fair treatment.
 
Roseman

Roseman

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fdd2blk said:
every man? maybe every man YOU'VE been with. :roll:
are you really trying to argue with a statement like that? :roll:
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so butt f*cking is not abnormal or perverted?

my wife and I might do some abnormal perverted sex, but we don't do
that. Fecal matter and sex do not go together in our bed.
 
Roseman

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misshestermoffitt said:
The phrase "All men are created equal" is arguably the best-known phrase in any of America's political documents, since the idea it expresses is generally considered the foundation of American democracy

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

It would seem that some men are more equal that others especially since they thrive on denying others their pursuit of happiness that is the bases of our countrys constitution.
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"All men are created equal"

I used to believe that until I got drafted into the army and had to stand around with 200 other naked men.
:lol: just adding a joke.
 
Stoney McFried

Stoney McFried

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Roseman, I don't do anal either, and not every gay person does. I have an idea. Let's just get rid of marriage.I'm happy without it.If you want to get some pastor to sanctify your union, fine,but I personally don't need validation from anyone else in my relationship.I'm with him, I'm faithful, I wash his shorts.Sounds like marriage to me.
 
olinotni

olinotni

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Excluding TheBrutalTruth, I am really impressed to see so many people speak positively for gay rights. As a lesbian, I thank you and appreciate your support.
 
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fdd2blk

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Roseman said:
so butt f*cking is not abnormal or perverted?

my wife and I might do some abnormal perverted sex, but we don't do
that. Fecal matter and sex do not go together in our bed.
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i was saying that every man does NOT want anal sex with his girl.
 
Roseman

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What really pisses me off about our goverment and laws, and leads me to be a libertarian, is how they take charge and control of matters that they should not. For thousands of years, MARRIAGE was not a civil or legal union, it was a RELIGIOUS deal. Then low life politicians saw they could make money off of it, and TA DA ! Marriage Licenses and court house marriages. Then they saw the $$$ light and started Drivers License, Hunting Licnese, Fishing License, took over Education, Postal Services, Citizenship and all kinds of areas in our lives that they Have no business in.

But Nooooo, they tell me I can not grow a herb or weed, I can not make my own liquor, I can't go hunting or fishing without paying a license fee, and I can not screw or marry my dog or my sister ! LOL just kiddin!

But I do sincerely believe that the government has no business defining laws about marriage, or pot, or hunting or fishing or hundreds of other issues that they stick their nose in.
 
hom36rown

hom36rown

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Roseman said:
What really pisses me off about our goverment and laws, and leads me to be a libertarian, is how they take charge and control of matters that they should not. For thousands of years, MARRIAGE was not a civil or legal union, it was a RELIGIOUS deal. Then low life politicians saw they could make money off of it, and TA DA ! Marriage Licenses and court house marriages. Then they saw the $$$ light and started Drivers License, Hunting Licnese, Fishing License, took over Education, Postal Services, Citizenship and all kinds of areas in our lives that they Have no business in.

But Nooooo, they tell me I can not grow a herb or weed, I can not make my own liquor, I can't go hunting or fishing without paying a license fee, and I can not screw or marry my dog or my sister ! LOL just kiddin!

But I do sincerely believe that the government has no business defining laws about marriage, or pot, or hunting or fishing or hundreds of other issues that they stick their nose in.
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Well, like I said you can beliveve marriage to be whatever you want it to be, if you choose to believe two gays arent really "married" go ahead...marriage is no longer a religous thing, get over it. It is a legal contract, and disallowing to homos to participate in said contract because of sexual orientation is wrong. By the way, you claim to be a libertarian, what do they have to say on the subject: "We condemn bigotry as irrational and repugnant. Government should not deny or abridge any individual's rights based on sex, wealth, race, color, creed, age, national origin, personal habits, political preference or sexual orientation. Parents, or other guardians, have the right to raise their children according to their own standards and beliefs."

So according to your own supposed party, you are irrational and repugnant. I agree.
 
mindphuk

mindphuk

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hom36rown said:
So according to your own supposed party, you are irrational and repugnant. I agree.
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Well, to be fair, he did use the small 'l' which denotes political views but not party affiliation. If he used a big 'L', that generally is what most libertarians would use to designate themselves a member of the party of the same name.

Besides, we don't want such bigoted, intolerant people representing our party anyway. :bigjoint:
 
DrGreenFinger

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Roseman said:
What really pisses me off about our goverment and laws, and leads me to be a libertarian, is how they take charge and control of matters that they should not. For thousands of years, MARRIAGE was not a civil or legal union, it was a RELIGIOUS deal. Then low life politicians saw they could make money off of it, and TA DA ! Marriage Licenses and court house marriages. Then they saw the $$$ light and started Drivers License, Hunting Licnese, Fishing License, took over Education, Postal Services, Citizenship and all kinds of areas in our lives that they Have no business in.

But Nooooo, they tell me I can not grow a herb or weed, I can not make my own liquor, I can't go hunting or fishing without paying a license fee, and I can not screw or marry my dog or my sister ! LOL just kiddin!

But I do sincerely believe that the government has no business defining laws about marriage, or pot, or hunting or fishing or hundreds of other issues that they stick their nose in.
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i feel ya, roseman. there was a time when "a union between God and man..." and "holy matrimony" meant something. of course, the gov cannot maintain those standards.
 
Smirgen

Smirgen

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Whatever happen to separation of church and state ?

Marriage is a religious institution, let the churches decide and get the government out of it.
 
mindphuk

mindphuk

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Smirgen said:
Whatever happen to separation of church and state ?

Marriage is a religious institution, let the churches decide and get the government out of it.
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As long as the state recognizes marriages and treats couples legally as immediate family as well as the associated benefits that comes with being next-of-kin, then it is not merely a religious issue. I think this is also where TBT is wrong. Even a libertarian can agree that there are secular, legitimate reasons for our government to recognize a married couple.
 
NorthwestBuds

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All I can say about same sex marriage is, yes the bible says it's wrong. But it also says we should not judge. And it also says vengeance is mine. So WTF am I supposed to believe when it constantly contradicts itself?
 
DrGreenFinger

DrGreenFinger

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NorthwestBuds said:
All I can say about same sex marriage is, yes the bible says it's wrong. But it also says we should not judge. And it also says vengeance is mine. So WTF am I supposed to believe when it constantly contradicts itself?
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i come to you in :peace:, bro'. to begin, the Bible has been translated from words that do not exist in the english language, at times. consequently, translators had to select words and phrases that closely represented the meaning behind the writings. i am sure the original tongue had seperate words to mean the type of judge where you class people and judging whereas you determine something to be unfit, unholy, or unlawful. the determining right and wrong is the Christian responsibility. to class people is wrong in the eyes of our creator.

vengeance is mine refers to the principles of loving everyone (to the point of forgiveness) and allowing God to deal with your enemies.

a strong understanding of spiritual principles only begins with reading the Bible. the most important aspect to understand the things of God is developing a relationship with His Holy Spirit so that you can hear when He speaks to you. this way you are not susceptible to false prophets.

just believe this, bro', satan is here to do a job. he is masterful, very cunning. the enemy is not weak and continues his agenda. he will continue to try and create confusion. this journey is only going to get tougher. but, i guarantee that if you sincerely pray for understanding (once - and have faith that you will receive whatever God has for you) you will receive revelation (no man involved...usually). believe me. i could tell you stories from witnessing miracles (truly) to seeing demons flee. yep!

i'm not always an :cuss:hole.

(sorry fdd for...ranting off topic)
 
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fdd2blk

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http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g-b2VBvddszsrmjH662jKjgoqSJQD96RCREO0



Proposal to strike 'marriage' from California law
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SACRAMENTO (AP) — California's top election official says supporters can start collecting signatures for a proposed ballot measure to strike the word "marriage" from all state laws.
Supporters of this ballot measure want to replace it with the term "domestic partnership," while keeping all the rights of marriage in place.
The proposal is in response to a voter-approved gay marriage ban that passed in November. The new measure would repeal the ban, and define domestic partnerships as unions between all couples, regardless of sexual orientation.
Secretary of State Debra Bowen said Tuesday that supporters must gather nearly 700,000 signatures by early August to get the initiative on the ballot.
The measure is the grassroots effort of two heterosexual college students.
 
Roseman

Roseman

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Smirgen said:
Whatever happen to separation of church and state ?

Marriage is a religious institution, let the churches decide and get the government out of it.
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Back in the mid 1800s, the government made a law about bigamy, the first law about marriage, and then a few years later, another law about interracial marriage, and like Obama is taking us down the path to socialism, the Governement then slowly seized control of marriage.

You know how the government loves to help us. LOL
 
medicineman

medicineman

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DrGreenFinger said:
you can't mean that, literally mm.
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Uhhhh, well yes I do. Since God is love, why would he condemn it? If love is the acceptance of all things good, then if a same sex couple has love for one another, why would God condemn it. Only those Bible thumpers thet believe it is OK to marry ones sister would condemn same sex marriage. I think the royales of past have had some insider marriages.
 
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