Safe bug solution?

CarpeNocturnum · Dec 15, 2016

Hey guys I have a minor mite issue.
Foliar feeding with agrogrow helps control it but I'm looking for something with more kick. Won't be flowering for at least another month. Any suggestions for "safe" pesticides/natural remedies?
Thanks a bunch

GrowRock · Dec 15, 2016

One of the old old school growers I know swears that if you put 8 cigarettes in 1liter or warm water put in dark place for 48 hours strain out loose tobbbaco and put in spray bottle. Never tried it myself but it's an option. Also go green is made with the cersanthanim plant not sure on spelling but discontinue use 2 weeks before flower

itsmehigh · Dec 15, 2016

Mites hate water and humid conditions, they thrive in dry conditions. Bit of a catch 22, humid conditions will also promote mold n mildew. If it's a small garden simply spay down leaves with water, try to avoid buds. You can also add a little peroxide (h2o2) 3ml/gallon to the water. Try and keep the environment at 48%rh.+. An organic insecticide soap can be an effective solution too, depending on your stance about spraying insecticides.. if it's a small outbreak biological (predatory insects) can work well too.

Itsme

Ahemait · Dec 15, 2016

Safer soap served me well in the past.
Assuming you can dunk the entire plant, it's a sure bet. Spreading works too but it's tough to hit every little spot they can hide, I found submersion best

TheRealDman · Dec 15, 2016

Food grade h2o2...30-60ml/lt. Kills bugs and eggs, plants luv it. Spray 2x/week until clean. Never spray soaps/toxins on your plants.

torontomeds · Dec 15, 2016

My veg IPM is
- Neem(not in flower)
- h202(up until week 2)
- safers (only if I am not close to flowering)
- Mega wash(not in flower)

Keep it clean, wash hands, air flow, keep it clean......

GroErr · Dec 15, 2016

https://www.rollitup.org/t/how-to-kill-spider-mites-100-naturally-no-chemicals.475307/

torontomeds · Dec 15, 2016

And never use the same thing more then 3 times in a row,
like if I am using neem I will treat day one, wait 3 days treat again, wait 3 days then treat again, then a month later I will do the same with a different product, again only in veg.

Brewery · Dec 15, 2016

torontomeds said:
And never use the same thing more then 3 times in a row,
like if I am using neem I will treat day one, wait 3 days treat again, wait 3 days then treat again, then a month later I will do the same with a different product, again only in veg.

Might want to look at adding karanja oil in the rotation - similar to neem and available in ON.

torontomeds · Dec 15, 2016

Brewery said:
Might want to look at adding karanja oil in the rotation - similar to neem and available in ON.

Nice thanks for the tip. Also if you go to organic food/grower events usually in the spring you can find neem. I know of a few ladies that carry it at some organic fairs.

CarpeNocturnum · Dec 15, 2016

So my next online order I need to buy:
-Food grade/pharmaceutical grade H202
-Neem oil
-karanja oil
*Also is it true you can use hot peppers/cayenne pepper/hot spices as a natural bug repellent?
Thanks again

torontomeds · Dec 15, 2016

I should mention, if you use safers, you're plants will look like shit for a week or 2, it almost always burns my plants a bit, but it does work. I tend to use that one the least but I do use it from time to time.

Also I was reading if you use c02 you can crank it up to 10,000 ppms for 2 hours, but if you are to do that please google and find out how to do it proper, I think it can be very bad for you're health. I have never done it before so I am not giving advice on it just pointing it out, please read up on that method prior to trying it.

torontomeds · Dec 15, 2016

CarpeNocturnum said:
So my next online order I need to buy:
-Food grade/pharmaceutical grade H202
-Neem oil
-karanja oil
*Also is it true you can use hot peppers/cayenne pepper/hot spices as a natural bug repellent?
Thanks again

Habanero are the beast from what I hear, order some dried ones and find a recipe online how to crush them up and make a mash out of them.
For neem it is 1tsp per liter and a few drops of dawn non concentrated soap(dollar store)

GroErr · Dec 15, 2016

torontomeds said:
Habanero are the beast from what I hear, order some dried ones and find a recipe online how to crush them up and make a mash out of them.
For neem it is 1tsp per liter and a few drops of dawn non concentrated soap(dollar store)

I've been using different versions of "hot" spice mixes for many years outdoor, it works fantastic and the plants like it if anything. You can use any sort of hot pepper, typically you'll cook it to draw out the juices but see below in a hurry.

I had a recent outburst of some bug indoor that was eating away at my clone leaves. Needed something quick & dirty so grabbed some hot chili pepper (ground) (1/4 tspn), garlic powder (1/8 tspn), threw them into a 2L juice bottle, added a couple of drops of dish soap, couple of drops of oil. Mixed well and re-mixed a few times over a couple of hours to dissolve it. Threw them into a dollar store spray bottle and good to go.

Sprayed them and within 48 hours not only were the bugs gone, the plants looked like they'd had a boost from the spray. Garlic smells a bit but whatever, bugs were gone. Haven't had to fight spider mites so not sure it works on those. But any other sort of bug outdoor hates that shit.

The Hippy · Dec 15, 2016

GroErr said:
I've been using different versions of "hot" spice mixes for many years outdoor, it works fantastic and the plants like it if anything. You can use any sort of hot pepper, typically you'll cook it to draw out the juices but see below in a hurry.

I had a recent outburst of some bug indoor that was eating away at my clone leaves. Needed something quick & dirty so grabbed some hot chili pepper (ground) (1/4 tspn), garlic powder (1/8 tspn), threw them into a 2L juice bottle, added a couple of drops of dish soap, couple of drops of oil. Mixed well and re-mixed a few times over a couple of hours to dissolve it. Threw them into a dollar store spray bottle and good to go.

Sprayed them and within 48 hours not only were the bugs gone, the plants looked like they'd had a boost from the spray. Garlic smells a bit but whatever, bugs were gone. Haven't had to fight spider mites so not sure it works on those. But any other sort of bug outdoor hates that shit.

Were they thrips...lil fuckers?

torontomeds · Dec 15, 2016

The Hippy said:
Were they thrips...lil fuckers?

Keep you're thrips out of here, please,lol.

gb123 · Dec 15, 2016

just learn how to grow CLEAN

Brewery · Dec 15, 2016

torontomeds said:
Nice thanks for the tip. Also if you go to organic food/grower events usually in the spring you can find neem. I know of a few ladies that carry it at some organic fairs.

There's s cosmetic supply house here in ON that carries neemoil, karanja oil, and aloe power. Sapphire blue i believe is the name.

If I could find neem and Karanja meal here in ON I'd be a happy man.

redi jedi · Dec 15, 2016

torontomeds said:
Also I was reading if you use c02 you can crank it up to 10,000 ppms for 2 hours, but if you are to do that please google and find out how to do it proper, I think it can be very bad for you're health. I have never done it before so I am not giving advice on it just pointing it out, please read up on that method prior to trying it.

This doesn't work. Bad idea really.

itsmehigh · Dec 15, 2016

Another product I have had success with is SM 90 by Nutrilife. It's simply coriander oil, it's all natural and effective. It also smells fantastic. Works best as an IPM, rotation is key, those little fuckers become resistant fast.

Itsme.

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