Running costs or lights

coreywebster

Well-Known Member
What about this?
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Says buy one get one, for three pounds. So, £1.5 per 14.5 watt bulb. That's as cheap as here in the US.. Am I reading that wrong?
That's a good find, literally never seen one that wattage before.

BTW VAT is value added tax, which Is an extra 20%.

There's been a lot of folks done what your doing, with great results.
But i think I'd shit on you in a grow off , watt for watt . But who cares , your growing and building your own lights to do so.
It's a shame you didn't see that deal a few years back when they were selling brigelux strips for like $1.60 for 2ft double row strips. Think normal price is 10x that. You'd of lapped them right up. People on here were buying 1000s of em.
 

speedwell68

Well-Known Member
Value added tax. That's how they pay for their free healthcare.
Because there are no taxes in the US. Our free health care is paid for by National Insurance and is available to all regardless of what they have paid in. That free health care system has just cured me of cancer, what would that have cost in the USA?
 

Creature1969

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Because there are no taxes in the US. Our free health care is paid for by National Insurance and is available to all regardless of what they have paid in. That free health care system has just cured me of cancer, what would that have cost in the USA?
Almost nothing. I have great health insurance. I also don't get a 20% upcharge on my purchases. But, you do you and keep thinking it's free.
 

speedwell68

Well-Known Member
Almost nothing. I have great health insurance. I also don't get a 20% upcharge on my purchases. But, you do you and keep thinking it's free.
When I was last in the US. I was charged 6.5% sales tax. VAT is only charged on certain goods and services, lots of stuff is exempt, not on all retail transactions like it is in the US, in a lot of cases it can be claimed back.

Only a fool believes it is free, it is paid for by taxation, mostly National Insurance and not VAT, like all government services in every country in the world. Can I ask how much your health insurance costs? Because I have a lot of American friends and family, they suggest it can be several hundred dollars a month. My Uncle lives in California and he is paying nearly $500 a month, for himself and his wife. I doubt I pay £100 a month in taxes that go towards healthcare.
 

rmax

Well-Known Member
healthcare.
I'm in the U.S. and worked at a company that had 'good insurance'. A lady who worked there had a baby who stroked-out within a few minutes after birth. The classic six sigma horror event. The kid was kept alive. Later the lady was telling me the first month of hospital bills was over $100,000 a day to keep that kid alive. That kid was sucking up years of the company premiums in a week.

The next year during open enrollment at the company we were asked to fill-out 'voluntary' questionnaires to help bring down healthcare costs. Some of the Q asked, do you smoke? you or anyone in the household have any drunk drivings? The following year the company was diluted/sold. I think the kid and the healthcare costs did the company in.
 

speedwell68

Well-Known Member
I'm in the U.S. and worked at a company that had 'good insurance'. A lady who worked there had a baby who stroked-out within a few minutes after birth. The classic six sigma horror event. The kid was kept alive. Later the lady was telling me the first month of hospital bills was over $100,000 a day to keep that kid alive. That kid was sucking up years of the company premiums in a week.

The next year during open enrollment at the company we were asked to fill-out 'voluntary' questionnaires to help bring down healthcare costs. Some of the Q asked, do you smoke? you or anyone in the household have any drunk drivings? The following year the company was diluted/sold. I think the kid and the healthcare costs did the company in.
That is disgusting.

Last time I was in the US I met an old guy called Charles, lovely guy. A few years before I had a suspected heart attack. An ambulance was called, I was taken in, tests were run and it was discovered that it was something else that was easily sorted. I was sent home the next morning. He had the same experience, he was kept in for a week and then presented with a bill for $6,000 a day.

I have seen the American media's view of the National Health Service and you are fed a load of horse shit about how it works and how it is funded. Whilst Charles and I were having this chat, a guy from Chicago chimed in and suggested that it sounded like communism.

America claims to be the land of the free. If that is the case then universal healthcare should be available to all, not just the wealthy. Last time I went I was charged £60 in insurance premiums because my daughter has asthma, this is not freedom.
 

Drop That Sound

Well-Known Member
That's a good find, literally never seen one that wattage before.

BTW VAT is value added tax, which Is an extra 20%.

There's been a lot of folks done what your doing, with great results.
But i think I'd shit on you in a grow off , watt for watt . But who cares , your growing and building your own lights to do so.
It's a shame you didn't see that deal a few years back when they were selling brigelux strips for like $1.60 for 2ft double row strips. Think normal price is 10x that. You'd of lapped them right up. People on here were buying 1000s of em.

You still wanna bet? I'm gonna rip the plywood strips soon as I dig my table saw out. Here is the new plan.

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coreywebster

Well-Known Member
You still wanna bet? I'm gonna rip the plywood strips soon as I dig my table saw out. Here is the new plan.

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Unfortunately I stopped posting my grows a few years back .

So it would be a hard bet for me to win.

However I know how much light a bulb produces vs the diodes I use and its vastly different output.

But if you build it they will come!
Tag me if you start a grow diary and I'll cheer you on from the sidelines
 
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