Rubbermaid Auto BlueBerry Grow of Doom

Sevren

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Hah, I have no idea. From what I've seen and read, when all the hairs have gone amber and trich's have clouded, she's ready to go. My only problem is I have no microscope so I can't really check the trich's. For this grow I'll have to just go by the ambering ratio.
 

Concord Dawn

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heres the info i have, this has been everywhere.

WHEN TO HARVEST
Trichomes are small appendages that look like hairs. They are produced by marijuana, and other plants. Female marijuana plants produce certain trichomes that are a rich source of THC. These trichomes can be found in their largest concentration on the buds. They start out clear, turn a milky color, then turn amber (light brown).
The trichomes in picture 1 are clear. After the plant has flowered for a few weeks, the trichomes start to turn a milky color (picture 2). After a few more weeks, they will be totally milky in color. In the later stages of flowering, trichomes will turn to a light brown color (picture 3). The amount of time required to get to this point depends on the marijuana strain and the growing conditions.
In picture 2 you can see the stems have started to turn from a clear color to a milky translucent color. For maximum THC content and a more cerebral and energetic high, harvest your plants when a majority of the trichomes on the plants in your garden are a fully milky translucent color.
You can wait until most of the trichomes have started to turn amber, but the resulting marijuana will produce more of a sleepy body stone than it would if plants were harvested earlier. The trichome in picture 3 is about 90% amber, with just a trace of the milky translucent color it previously possessed.
After the trichome is fully amber in color, the THC starts to degrade. This makes it very important to harvest marijuana at the time before a majority of the trichomes have attained a total amber color. If not, the marijuana will not be as potent as it could have been.
Based on that information once trichomes have turned milky white maximum THC levels have been reached and remain at that level until fully amber. So any time between fully milky white and fully amber is the peak THC level and when each person needs to decide when to harvest in that period of time is solely based on each individuals personal preference in high or stone of combination of each.
In short the prime time to harvest is variable based on personal preference as long as it is between when the trichomes have turned fully milky white and when they are fully amber.
Pure sativas and highly predominant sativas reach maximum THC potency when the trichomes are still clear. It will max out just before clouding occurs so it is best to harvest them at the first signs of clouding. But many people call any cross that is over 50% sativa a sativa and unless a strain is upwards of 80% sativa or higher you would want to wait until you see mostly cloudy trichomes with some amber trichomes and possibly with a few clear trichomes left.
 

BlackBuddha

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Nice grow man.
I am having 4 autos growing right now (2 Diesel Ryder & 2 Jock Horror As), they are only 5 days since sprout but your thread got me excited.

Good luck !
 

Sevren

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heres the info i have, this has been everywhere.

WHEN TO HARVEST
Trichomes are small appendages that look like hairs. They are produced by marijuana, and other plants. Female marijuana plants produce certain trichomes that are a rich source of THC. These trichomes can be found in their largest concentration on the buds. They start out clear, turn a milky color, then turn amber (light brown).
The trichomes in picture 1 are clear. After the plant has flowered for a few weeks, the trichomes start to turn a milky color (picture 2). After a few more weeks, they will be totally milky in color. In the later stages of flowering, trichomes will turn to a light brown color (picture 3). The amount of time required to get to this point depends on the marijuana strain and the growing conditions.
In picture 2 you can see the stems have started to turn from a clear color to a milky translucent color. For maximum THC content and a more cerebral and energetic high, harvest your plants when a majority of the trichomes on the plants in your garden are a fully milky translucent color.
You can wait until most of the trichomes have started to turn amber, but the resulting marijuana will produce more of a sleepy body stone than it would if plants were harvested earlier. The trichome in picture 3 is about 90% amber, with just a trace of the milky translucent color it previously possessed.
After the trichome is fully amber in color, the THC starts to degrade. This makes it very important to harvest marijuana at the time before a majority of the trichomes have attained a total amber color. If not, the marijuana will not be as potent as it could have been.
Based on that information once trichomes have turned milky white maximum THC levels have been reached and remain at that level until fully amber. So any time between fully milky white and fully amber is the peak THC level and when each person needs to decide when to harvest in that period of time is solely based on each individuals personal preference in high or stone of combination of each.
In short the prime time to harvest is variable based on personal preference as long as it is between when the trichomes have turned fully milky white and when they are fully amber.
Pure sativas and highly predominant sativas reach maximum THC potency when the trichomes are still clear. It will max out just before clouding occurs so it is best to harvest them at the first signs of clouding. But many people call any cross that is over 50% sativa a sativa and unless a strain is upwards of 80% sativa or higher you would want to wait until you see mostly cloudy trichomes with some amber trichomes and possibly with a few clear trichomes left.
Thanks Concord, guess I'll have to look into getting a pocket-microscope in the next few days.


Hey Sevren, you could also check the harvest section in my ref. guide http://www.govannom.org/mj/#harvesting. I've got some good info about it and two different opinions about when is the best time to harvest, you could have a look and decide :)
Thanks again for sharing that link. The ratio of pistils browning was basically what I was going to go by but that helped a bit more as well.


Nice grow man.
I am having 4 autos growing right now (2 Diesel Ryder & 2 Jock Horror As), they are only 5 days since sprout but your thread got me excited.

Good luck !
Hah, I didn't think my grow would actually help anyone, but I'm glad it got you excited. Thanks.
 

King Blunt

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Damn dude. Sorry I havnt been commenting as much as I should but your plant looks pretty sweet, Goodjob. Like your setup too. Respect and peace man.
 

lince

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Thanks again for sharing that link. The ratio of pistils browning was basically what I was going to go by but that helped a bit more as well.
That's why I told you to check it out, because there is also some info about when to harvest looking at the pistils. That's how everybody did it few years ago and it works :) But of course it will be more accurate if you can check the trichomes.
 

Sevren

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Yeah I found a nice $8 pocket microscope on Amazon I'll be ordering tomorrow, since they charge $20 for the same one at the local hydro store.

I have another question for anyone that might know this. I'm not sure if it's too late to fix but I can't tell whats wrong with these couple leaves. I think it's either too much water or feeding her nutes too often (every other watering, watering every 2 or 3 days depending on soil moisture). Any ideas or direction would be appreciated.

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King Blunt

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Sevren that kinda looks like Mg deficientcy bro. My Blue Mystics got it right now and I treated it today with some Epson salt. Hope it works. You should look at the help section though becuase it might not be, so check and make sure before you treat. Respect and peace my man.
 

Sevren

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Sevren that kinda looks like Mg deficientcy bro. My Blue Mystics got it right now and I treated it today with some Epson salt. Hope it works. You should look at the help section though becuase it might not be, so check and make sure before you treat. Respect and peace my man.
Thanks King. After digging around, I discovered it's the onset of nute burn. One of the leaves is a bit past repair, the other with the bright spots can probably come back just fine after I flush her. Just to be on the safe side I'll flush her tomorrow during her normally scheduled watering.
 

Sevren

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Pre-update update question:

So I got my pocket microscope, and checked her trich's. A good 75% of them are nice and cloudy from what I can tell, the microscope is a bit of a pain in the ass to use when it comes to getting a stable view. I've also noticed in the last 2-3 days some of the buds on the main cola are shooting out further and making new pistils. So my question is, since her trich's are cloudy, 40% of her pistils amber, and shooting out new growth, should I be chopping soon (next week or following week) or sit and watch to see what happens?
 

FlatTopBud

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whatever you do flush that bitch for at least 2 weeks. Foxfarm buds taste awful when no flushed...No...All Nutes Taste Terrible IF NOT FLUSHED. its better to have bud thats smooth rather than picked for potency. i made this mistake on my first grow, its still up here if u wanna take a look just search my profile. as for the growth i find that the buds kinda stretch toward cfl's in the end but i dont mind it. growing primo nug is about finding that balence of when to flush so the plant will finish up at the same time. Its not that easy so don't feel bad if you miss it on your first grow.

other than that it looks good dude, and don't be afraid of letting it go for 9/10 weeks flowering
 

lince

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Well, as I see it...

1.- the plant should be ready at day +-70 so if you are at day 50 there should still be +-20 days to go.

2.- if 40% of the pistils are amber you should harvest as soon as possible.

3.- FlatTop is right and if you don't flush before harvest it will affect your buds.

So... when was the last time you used nutes ? did you flush ? is she 50 days old ? are you sure about the 40% amber trichomes ?

An option could be to harvest some branches now and some other later but it depends on the previous questions.
 

Sevren

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Well, as I see it...

1.- the plant should be ready at day +-70 so if you are at day 50 there should still be +-20 days to go.

2.- if 40% of the pistils are amber you should harvest as soon as possible.

3.- FlatTop is right and if you don't flush before harvest it will affect your buds.

So... when was the last time you used nutes ? did you flush ? is she 50 days old ? are you sure about the 40% amber trichomes ?

An option could be to harvest some branches now and some other later but it depends on the previous questions.
Today she is 49 days old, so might as well be 50.
On every bud site there is at least 35-45% amber pistils except for the cola which has new growth and new pistils.
The last time I used nutes was a bout a week ago. She got her first flush 3 days ago.

I'll be taking photos later today to get a general consensus that she's mostly 35-45% amber.
 

lince

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Damn! in the second point I wanted to say trichomes and not pistils as I said in the question hehe

So which one is it ? 40% amber trichomes or brown pistils ? I thought you were talking about trichomes because you got the microscope... If it's only the pistils don't worry about them, let the plant go longer for sure :)

And if so, what about the trichomes ? any amber ?
 

Sevren

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Damn! in the second point I wanted to say trichomes and not pistils as I said in the question hehe

So which one is it ? 40% amber trichomes or brown pistils ? I thought you were talking about trichomes because you got the microscope... If it's only the pistils don't worry about them, let the plant go longer for sure :)

And if so, what about the trichomes ? any amber ?
Oh my apologies. From what I could tell there was no amber on the trichomes. A good portion of them were cloudy but no amber. I may have to look on more then 5 leaves though, but on the 5 I did check there were none.
 

lince

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Don't worry, my mistake as well :) I've got a plant (regular seeds) in the same situation right now, quite a few brown pistils, also some new white pistils growing, but the trichomes are mostly cloudy with a few still clear and no amber so I'm waiting until I see amber trichomes.

Actually I just made some numbers and tomorrow she should have ~20 days left so that would be the same as your hehe anyway that's theoretically, I'll just keep checking the trichomes and when I see amber will be chop time :D

Looking forward to those pics mate.
 

King Blunt

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Sevren post some pics of your bitch man lol. Hope you got the nute brun fixed, I know I havnt. My girls hurting right now :( but I think she'll pull through. Anyways goodluck and happy smoking. peace
 

Sevren

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Today is Week 7. She received her second flush today. As noted above, she seems to be growing still and may be ready to go in the coming week or 2.

Day 49

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