RQS Critical Kush grow amateur/hobbyist level growing

Addonexus

Member
Hello Community,

This will be my first journal for RIU. I plan on following this grow through to harvest, but things happen. Currently I have two "ladies" both Critical Kush by Royal Queen Seeds. They are in the vegetative phase under a P300 light. For simplicity I have named them plant A and B. Initially A was my prize as she showed much promise and had no issues early on. However plant B, even after suffering some tap root damage during the first week of life, has come back with vengeance. For the time being I only have a picture of B during a res change.

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They are roughly 3 weeks into veg, I personally don't consider them to be in veg until the first 3 bladed leaf, so they may be a little older. They are currently transitioning to flowering nutrients in small amounts, and maintain a 14/10 light schedule. I am vertically limited and can support roughly a two and a half to three foot plant, so I try to limit their vertical growth and create a canopy somewhere around fifteen inches in height.

I am running House & Garden Aqua Flakes, with the additional help of some silica blast, cal-mag+, zone, rhizo blast and lastly a touch of open sesame. I try to keep my res levels at 2.2 gallons, which is slightly enveloping the bottom of the net pot to encourage growth. Generally they sit at around 250 to 300 ppm's or about .5 - .6 EC. It is extremely low, however they seem to be doing fine and less is more. During this res change I have increased the ppm's to 420 because why not, and I would like to see generally where she starts to show nutrient deficiencies.

As far as their life so far and training, they started life in rockwool cubes, under a dome with a heating pad. Once roots were formed I took a zip lock storage container, cut two square holes in the lid, and suspended them there with tooth picks. Something like this.
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From here nothing special happened and they grew like plants do to about here.

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From this point I implemented some basic training like fimming, tucking, super cropping and low stress training to promote inter node growth.

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Currently I now have clones from both "ladies". I am now simply trying to create an even canopy for B while her roots expand, and hoping that A gets her self together and starts to pump out some growth. Also I am waiting for pre flowers, they both have staggered growth, meaning the nodes are now offset and no longer parallel. I do see what appears to be female organs, but they have yet to show calyx's of any kind. If you choose to stick around and see what happens feel free, if you don't maybe I will spark your interest next time.

On a side note Ive had decent results with the P300 LED. I may throw in my 2 "solar flare 220's" into the mix since the P300 is a focused lens, designed for penetration.

And now a random hawk picture that I rescued. Sad story I was driving home and this not so little guy was in the middle of the street. As I tried to pull over and park I watched not one but two cars drive over him, luckily he decided to duck at just the right moment. Thus allowing me to snag him up.

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Addonexus

Member
Here's some pictures that I came across from a previous grow or two, they are Critical Super Silver Haze, and Pineapple Chunk. Both good producers, smooth smoke and very recommendable. Enjoy.

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Airwalker16

Well-Known Member
Hello Community,

This will be my first journal for RIU. I plan on following this grow through to harvest, but things happen. Currently I have two "ladies" both Critical Kush by Royal Queen Seeds. They are in the vegetative phase under a P300 light. For simplicity I have named them plant A and B. Initially A was my prize as she showed much promise and had no issues early on. However plant B, even after suffering some tap root damage during the first week of life, has come back with vengeance. For the time being I only have a picture of B during a res change.

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They are roughly 3 weeks into veg, I personally don't consider them to be in veg until the first 3 bladed leaf, so they may be a little older. They are currently transitioning to flowering nutrients in small amounts, and maintain a 14/10 light schedule. I am vertically limited and can support roughly a two and a half to three foot plant, so I try to limit their vertical growth and create a canopy somewhere around fifteen inches in height.

I am running House & Garden Aqua Flakes, with the additional help of some silica blast, cal-mag+, zone, rhizo blast and lastly a touch of open sesame. I try to keep my res levels at 2.2 gallons, which is slightly enveloping the bottom of the net pot to encourage growth. Generally they sit at around 250 to 300 ppm's or about .5 - .6 EC. It is extremely low, however they seem to be doing fine and less is more. During this res change I have increased the ppm's to 420 because why not, and I would like to see generally where she starts to show nutrient deficiencies.

As far as their life so far and training, they started life in rockwool cubes, under a dome with a heating pad. Once roots were formed I took a zip lock storage container, cut two square holes in the lid, and suspended them there with tooth picks. Something like this.
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From here nothing special happened and they grew like plants do to about here.

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From this point I implemented some basic training like fimming, tucking, super cropping and low stress training to promote inter node growth.

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Currently I now have clones from both "ladies". I am now simply trying to create an even canopy for B while her roots expand, and hoping that A gets her self together and starts to pump out some growth. Also I am waiting for pre flowers, they both have staggered growth, meaning the nodes are now offset and no longer parallel. I do see what appears to be female organs, but they have yet to show calyx's of any kind. If you choose to stick around and see what happens feel free, if you don't maybe I will spark your interest next time.

On a side note Ive had decent results with the P300 LED. I may throw in my 2 "solar flare 220's" into the mix since the P300 is a focused lens, designed for penetration.

And now a random hawk picture that I rescued. Sad story I was driving home and this not so little guy was in the middle of the street. As I tried to pull over and park I watched not one but two cars drive over him, luckily he decided to duck at just the right moment. Thus allowing me to snag him up.

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Dude. Props on the hawk. Fuckin sick. Also, make sure your buckets are light tight.no light can touch the roots whatsoever and blue opaque buckets don't cut it.
 

Addonexus

Member
Thank you for your kind words sir, technically they are in 3 gallon black buckets at the moment. However it never occurred to me that they we're not light proof. I'm sure that you saved me a great deal of problems in the near future, as I was planning on swapping them out once my clones develop root's.

Any suggestions and or recommendations, on where to purchase some black, light proof buckets without getting robbed by a hydro shop?

I guess I could spray paint them, but the toxins might leak into the res, or simply rap them in mylar?
 

Airwalker16

Well-Known Member
Thank you for your kind words sir, technically they are in 3 gallon black buckets at the moment. However it never occurred to me that they we're not light proof. I'm sure that you saved me a great deal of problems in the near future, as I was planning on swapping them out once my clones develop root's.

Any suggestions and or recommendations, on where to purchase some black, light proof buckets without getting robbed by a hydro shop?

I guess I could spray paint them, but the toxins might leak into the res, or simply rap them in mylar?
Get these exact ones, i use and love them, and have them shipped to your nearest store for free pickup. That's what I do.

http://m.homedepot.com/p/Leaktite-5-Gal-Black-Bucket-Pack-of-3-209332/203925013
 
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Airwalker16

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You may also want to look into getting net pots with a wide lip on them. 3,4,5 or 6". I use 6" and use these lids. You cut a hole in the middle of them so your net pot sits snugly on the lid. It just makes things so much easier in my opinion.

http://m.homedepot.com/p/Black-Reusable-Easy-Off-Lid-for-5-Gal-Pail-Pack-of-10-209317/203926022?MERCH=REC-_-mobileweb_pip_rr-3-_-203925013-_-203926022-_-N

http://m.ebay.com/itm/6-MESH-NET-POT-FOR-GROWING-ORCHIDS-HYDROPONICS-QTY-6-/182172497076?nav=SEARCH

^see how they have a nice lip on them?
 
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Airwalker16

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These are the ones I actually purchased. You can see how nice the lip is on them. I'd reccomend these ones actually over the ebay ones. These work so good for me.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B010LH5B00/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1

but it looks like they're not shipping for a few months. So these are also looking pretty good to me.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0098MDUPS/ref=psd_mlt_nbc_B010LH5B00_p

This is a review someone left on them on amazon:

"I ordered about 5 different brands of pots before coming across these. They are very sturdy in design and have strong lips that will support heavy plants."

Perfect ;)
 

Addonexus

Member
I will definitely look into ordering the buckets, actually I may just walk in and purchase them if my local home depot has them. Also I use the below link for net pots, and actually when putting them onto a 5 gallon bucket like my Lowe's buckets. They are a perfect, tight fit. They literally snap on and require force to remove.

https://www.hydrofarm.com/p/HG6RDBK

What would the benefit be of switching from the net pots I use with a built in lid vs buying them separately?
 

Airwalker16

Well-Known Member
Home depot only sells them online.
And you can move plants from different sized lid buckets to these I'd you ever build a smaller rdwc system for veg like I did or if you'd like to veg in an ebb and flow like I did once.20160315_123011.jpg
 

sixstring2112

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ask him to explain to us why blue,white,silver or pink buckets wont work,and then he can tell us how you managed to grow this one lol


nice work by the way.i ran hydro in the silver lowes buckets for years without any issues.if your water is prone to problems,no special bucket or tub is going to fix it.it usually comes down to water temps anyways.nice lookin hawk :)
 

Addonexus

Member
I think the common misconception is that, if the bucket is not black it will leak light. Regardless of the color, the thickness of the buckets walls stay the same. Which should be more than enough to prevent ambient light from passing though. Especially since that light is a good deal away from the bucket itself, and the light hitting it has already been reduced in intensity due to being reflected off mylar. Regard less its food for thought.

@sixstring2112 , Thank you for the compliment, what strain was the best yielding during your DWC adventures?
 

Airwalker16

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I think the common misconception is that, if the bucket is not black it will leak light. Regardless of the color, the thickness of the buckets walls stay the same. Which should be more than enough to prevent ambient light from passing though. Especially since that light is a good deal away from the bucket itself, and the light hitting it has already been reduced in intensity due to being reflected off mylar. Regard less its food for thought.

@sixstring2112 , Thank you for the compliment, what strain was the best yielding during your DWC adventures?
You can see light coming through any bucket but black. I promise.
 

sixstring2112

Well-Known Member
I think the common misconception is that, if the bucket is not black it will leak light. Regardless of the color, the thickness of the buckets walls stay the same. Which should be more than enough to prevent ambient light from passing though. Especially since that light is a good deal away from the bucket itself, and the light hitting it has already been reduced in intensity due to being reflected off mylar. Regard less its food for thought.

@sixstring2112 , Thank you for the compliment, what strain was the best yielding during your DWC adventures?
my masterkush always was my best plant in hydro.i had a few decent runs with black rose also
 

Addonexus

Member
Home depot only sells them online.
And you can move plants from different sized lid buckets to these I'd you ever build a smaller rdwc system for veg like I did or if you'd like to veg in an ebb and flow like I did once.View attachment 3769803
Interesting setup, are you using top's as clones? Or are you taking lower growth with multiple nodes? Do you root directly into hydroton or do you use a medium such as rockwool?
 

Addonexus

Member
Hello,

Today marks day one flower with plant B. A few days ago her main cola reached a preset marker that I placed a while back. Essentially she is at her vertical limit, so I incorporated low stress training, and super cropping to flatten her out.

Here is when her training started, and the first time I have pruned anything off of her aside from a FIM, and a few lower clones. My camera said it was the first of this month.
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Since this time, I have continued to LST and refine her shape. I have also begun tucking her fan leaves to expose inner node growth. One notable result of LST is how each of her branches thicken up. Hopefully their ability to carry nutrients up, will result in a better harvest.

Here is B roughly 6 days later.
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As of two days ago she began showing sex, I was worried for a long minute, because she matured a few weeks back (offset nodes). However things payed off in the long run.

Here is a shot of her female parts, which appeared 2 days ago. I am considering removing her from the transitional stage, and calling today day one of flower.
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Some recent things of note are, both ladies are eating/drinking more. As a result of this, and the lighter tone of their fan leave's. I have decided to increase their base nutrient levels to near full strength. At this time here are the level's that I use per gallon, the formula's differ slightly per lady.

A: 3ml A&B (Aquaflakes), 2ml zone, 1.5ml Cal-Mag+, 2ml Silica Blast, 1/4 tsp Open Sesame.

B: 3.5-4ml A&B (Aquaflakes), 2ml zone, 1.5ml Cal-Mag+, 2ml Silica Blast, 1/4 tsp Open Sesame.

My goal is to get their color up before the complete onset of flowering. That way if there are deficiencies, I can eliminate the base nutrient and use supplements. "A" sits around 450 ppm's my goal would be somewhere around 600 unless more can be achieved in the next few days. "B" has recently been increased to 600 ppm's. I would like to go to seven to eight hundred ppm's as we build up to flowering.

Today marks a top off / res-change day for both ladies. I will test a new higher ppm dose on them, but only fill their res to 2.5 gallons. This leaves me half a gallon to dilute with pure R/O, if the solution proves too much.

Here are two more pictures, the purple one shows the state of my tent 6 days ago. The second picture shows the canopy I've been able to maintain on B, through LST and a bit of super cropping.
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Any comments or suggestion are welcome.
 

Airwalker16

Well-Known Member
Hello,

Today marks day one flower with plant B. A few days ago her main cola reached a preset marker that I placed a while back. Essentially she is at her vertical limit, so I incorporated low stress training, and super cropping to flatten her out.

Here is when her training started, and the first time I have pruned anything off of her aside from a FIM, and a few lower clones. My camera said it was the first of this month.
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Since this time, I have continued to LST and refine her shape. I have also begun tucking her fan leaves to expose inner node growth. One notable result of LST is how each of her branches thicken up. Hopefully their ability to carry nutrients up, will result in a better harvest.

Here is B roughly 6 days later.
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As of two days ago she began showing sex, I was worried for a long minute, because she matured a few weeks back (offset nodes). However things payed off in the long run.

Here is a shot of her female parts, which appeared 2 days ago. I am considering removing her from the transitional stage, and calling today day one of flower.
View attachment 3775758

Some recent things of note are, both ladies are eating/drinking more. As a result of this, and the lighter tone of their fan leave's. I have decided to increase their base nutrient levels to near full strength. At this time here are the level's that I use per gallon, the formula's differ slightly per lady.

A: 3ml A&B (Aquaflakes), 2ml zone, 1.5ml Cal-Mag+, 2ml Silica Blast, 1/4 tsp Open Sesame.

B: 3.5-4ml A&B (Aquaflakes), 2ml zone, 1.5ml Cal-Mag+, 2ml Silica Blast, 1/4 tsp Open Sesame.

My goal is to get their color up before the complete onset of flowering. That way if there are deficiencies, I can eliminate the base nutrient and use supplements. "A" sits around 450 ppm's my goal would be somewhere around 600 unless more can be achieved in the next few days. "B" has recently been increased to 600 ppm's. I would like to go to seven to eight hundred ppm's as we build up to flowering.

Today marks a top off / res-change day for both ladies. I will test a new higher ppm dose on them, but only fill their res to 2.5 gallons. This leaves me half a gallon to dilute with pure R/O, if the solution proves too much.

Here are two more pictures, the purple one shows the state of my tent 6 days ago. The second picture shows the canopy I've been able to maintain on B, through LST and a bit of super cropping.
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Any comments or suggestion are welcome.
You've brought up another great reason to use bucket lids with holes cut in them for net pots. They have these tabs on them that you can drill small holes in to to run your wires through rather than taping down
 
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