Roots organic soilless mix and Kind Super Soil ... ?

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    cjsbabygirl313

    cjsbabygirl313 Well-Known Member

    I’m a newbie to growing and want to try growing one plant in soil and the other in a DWC bucket. I sprouted two feminized autoflower seeds and they’re currently in my other hydro setup in a grow sponge waiting to get a decent root system and the first few leaves. In the mean time, I read up some on soil growing and the nutrients and run off and all that got me a bit intimidated - but then I saw this “Kind Super Soil” that basically has all the nutrients an autoflower will need from seedling to harvest day. You’re only supposed to use like 3 pounds of it at the bottom in a 5 gallon fabric bucket and the vendor suggests Roots Organic Soil-less mix for the remainder of the growing container.

    So my question is this: once the seedlings show up and establish themselves a bit - how do I use that soil-less mix? If I put it in a small pot once the roots establish themselves how much do I water that type of grow medium? Do I add any nutrients while waiting to put it in the container that will hold the Super Soil? I just dont want to kill my new babies!

    Help, suggestions, and advice most appreciated!
     
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    medicman69

    medicman69 Well-Known Member

    I have the same deal going on now. Two plants in DWC setup and 3 in soil. Since I didn't have time to do my own organic soil this time I went with Kind Soil. Just like the instructions say, put Kind soil in bottom 1/3 rd of your container ( I like Smart Pots myself ) and I just put a local organic soil in the top 2/3. Super easy. You don't want the top soil to be too hot and nutrient rich for your young plants.
    I'd just go with any organic soil for your upper layer. Water it less often than you think you need to lol. I wouldn't worry about nutrients yet unless you are seeing deficiencies. The point of the organic grow is to not need nutrients, only ph'd water.

    I'd look at photoperiod plants for your next round. The autos, while lighting is easy since they just do their thing, will not be as strong/potent as your photoperiod plants. Plus you can't train an auto as well as you can a photoperiod such as topping or manifolding.
     
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    cjsbabygirl313

    cjsbabygirl313 Well-Known Member

    Yeah, just want to get a grow or two down first with the easiest plant before I go growing things that are more, difficult, shall we say.

    Guess my only orher question is with that roots organic soilless mix, do I “pre-wet” it some when I first add it to the container?
     
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    NanoGadget

    NanoGadget Well-Known Member

    I'm currently using a similar setup (hot soil on the bottom, roots organic on top) except I did my own composting and amending. Assuming that the Kind Soil is well made it should literally be as easy as watering when needed.
    New plants need very little nutrients so whether you feed them while they are waiting to go into the pot containing the hot soil depends on the nutrient charge in the soil-less mix. Which variety are you using?
     
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    cjsbabygirl313

    cjsbabygirl313 Well-Known Member

    I have hydro nutes for the hydro set up (GH hydro flora trio) ... and Mr. Mucha which is a CalMag supplement I use for my tomatoes and peppers in my AeroGarden. I read that when first putting the seedling in the Soilless mix (which is on top of the Kindsoil) that a 1/4 strength CalMag solution should be sufficient for the seedling.

    My question though is before putting the seedling in in the Soilless Mix, do i need to soak that mix and let the extra drain out, then put it on top of the kind soil, and THEN add my seedling or should I just add the Soilless Mix to the pot dry, add the seedling and THEN water just lightly?
     
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    NanoGadget

    NanoGadget Well-Known Member

    Again, I'd need to know exactly what the soil-less mix is to give any advice. Typically when I transplant I fill the pot, make a hole for the plant in the middle, once the plant is in and the root ball has been covered I water as normal. Some mediums do require soaking or flushing before use and some do not, but without knowing exactly what you're using I hesitate to advise you.
     
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    cjsbabygirl313

    cjsbabygirl313 Well-Known Member

    Oh, sorry - its the Roots Organic Soilless Hydroponic Mix
     
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    NanoGadget

    NanoGadget Well-Known Member

    I got this from the interwebz about that product..
    "Lightly amended with a starter charge of organic fertilizers like bat guano, worm castings and kelp, this mix is designed for heavy feeding and high performance in container or hydroponic applications."

    So your product does contain a light nutrient charge. This means you would not want to soak it of flush it. It's not purr coco. Just treat it like dirt for your application. Hot soil in the bottom, fill with the Roots, add plant, water as normal.
     
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    cjsbabygirl313

    cjsbabygirl313 Well-Known Member

    Thank you Nano! I figured I was likely over-thinking the whole thing. Much obliged for your assistance!
     
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    NanoGadget

    NanoGadget Well-Known Member

    No problem. Since I've got a similar style grow going feel free to hit me up with any future questions you have and I'll try to help.
     

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