Ro water question.

Fawkes420 said:

The strongest peroxide i can get my hands on is 12%

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since you are using enzymes, i would not use peroxide. do you have a grow store close by? i would try to get some beneficial bacteria like hydroguard, piranha, great white etc. and use that along with the enzymes

don't give up ! @R.Raider had some root rot going on and bacteria got him started in the right direction. see if he chimes in with any advice.

rkymtnman said:

since you are using enzymes, i would not use peroxide. do you have a grow store close by? i would try to get some beneficial bacteria like hydroguard, piranha, great white etc. and use that along with the enzymes

don't give up ! @R.Raider had some root rot going on and bacteria got him started in the right direction. see if he chimes in with any advice.

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Well running into some major issues again today myself, so don't feel like I'm in a position to give advice yet. I'll report back though when I do finally get it worked out.

R.Raider said:

Well running into some major issues again today myself, so don't feel like I'm in a position to give advice yet. I'll report back though when I do finally get it worked out.

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the OP is in the UK so he can't get his hands on SAG anyway.

what you got going on?

Fawkes420 said:

Got a pic of roots from 8 days ago.View attachment 4278258

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Just looks like stained roots with new ones growing thru them so I see no need to panic.

A couple heavy doses of peroxide wouldn't hurt and if all you have is 12% then I'd go 10ml/L once a day for a couple days just in case.

I've never used any kind of beneficials in DWC so can't advise there. Might have to kill off some enzymes using peroxide but better than rot and they can be replaced.

How is the plant doing?

Well, I think she looks ok.
I'll put on some strong doses h2o2 today and see what's happens.

rkymtnman said:

since you are using enzymes, i would not use peroxide. do you have a grow store close by? i would try to get some beneficial bacteria like hydroguard, piranha, great white etc. and use that along with the enzymes

don't give up ! @R.Raider had some root rot going on and bacteria got him started in the right direction. see if he chimes in with any advice.

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I use these enzymes http://www.plant-magic.co.uk/products/enzyme-prevents-root-rot/37/
It would be good to use with h2o2?
Info from product page:

• Removes dead roots to prevent disease
• Breaks down dead matter into food
• Suitable for disinfected tanks

Fawkes420 said:

I use these enzymes http://www.plant-magic.co.uk/products/enzyme-prevents-root-rot/37/
It would be good to use with h2o2?
Info from product page:

• Removes dead roots to prevent disease
• Breaks down dead matter into food
• Suitable for disinfected tanks

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hmmm, can you contact plant magic on the phone? i'd ask them if it's ok to use at the same time with peroxide.

i'm still 50/50 on whether or not that is root rot anyway. @OldMedUser if the enzymes the OP is using are staining the roots, wouldn't the new growth be brown too and not white?

he did say that the roots do pull off pretty easily.

I did a brutal cleansing of roots today.
I pulled my fingers through the roots and plenty of roots just pulled of in my hand.
Went over all roots under tap water and a LOT of roots came of.
Now roots looks much better.
I guess i put a lot of stress to her so i just going to let her alone for now in ro water with h2o2.

Found something named ecothrive biosys:
https://www.growell.co.uk/advice/q-a/ecothrive-biosys-q-a-with-gareth
"
Q
Awesome. And what about disease prevention?

A
So, Biosys contains 2 species of Trichoderma - beneficial fungi that are great at degrading other fungi and pathogens. Specifically, they’re known to help fight Pythium!

The Bacillus and 2 species of Pseudomonas in Biosys also help with pathogen control."

Will start with this instead of h2o2 the day after tomorrow

About Ec question in my first post,,, lowered ec and is now stable at .41 and plant is drinking again

Fawkes420 said:

About Ec question in my first post,,, lowered ec and is now stable at .41 and plant is drinking again

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perfect! one problem seems to be solved.

the biosys sounds like a good solution to the root rot. give it a shot.

That biosys shit seemed to work just fine, but had to chop her today
A buddy of mine got busted a couple of days ago, he had some shady business going on to say the least.
Haven't got the nerves to sit and wait for the cops to show up with a search warrant (then root rot had been my least problem).
Well,,, better safe than sorry. It sucks to live in a non-legal country where the authorities thinks that it's a "death drug".

Did you think your buddy might rat you out to save his own skin or something?

I had a 'buddy' I know ratted me out a few years back but that's not enough for the cops to get a warrant so I left my dozen plants up and never saw a cop. I don't deal pot or talk about pot on the phone so after a few months of waiting for a knock I stopped fretting about it.

Sorry about your loss.

Thanks.
No, I don't think he will rat me out, but it's quite big investigation so I think they been listening on his telefon etc.
We had not been talking about pot or any other drugs, but I think the cops want to bust as many as they can.
He's facing several years in prison if convicted. It was a biiig bust.

that sucks man. better safe than sorry. aren't you in the UK? what is the punishment for growing plants? does plant count matter? is it automatic jail time?

Fawkes420 said:

Thanks.
No, I don't think he will rat me out, but it's quite big investigation so I think they been listening on his telefon etc.
We had not been talking about pot or any other drugs, but I think the cops want to bust as many as they can.
He's facing several years in prison if convicted. It was a biiig bust.

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Even if the cops have your name from checking his phone records that in no way indicates that they would even investigate you if you're not up to dealing pot or other nefarious things.

The UK is very similar to Canada here about the way they investigate drugs and a home grower with a few plants doesn't really interest them. It cost thousands of dollars to investigate one person well enough to either eliminate them from an investigation or garner enough evidence to justify a warrant. They need that money to go after terrorists these days.

Nothing wrong with being paranoid as it's kept me free of even a charge in the 50 years I've used and grown pot so if the cops do show up at your place you'll be happy you shut it down.

rkymtnman said:

that sucks man. better safe than sorry. aren't you in the UK? what is the punishment for growing plants? does plant count matter? is it automatic jail time?

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No, i'm not in uk. Just posting links from uk since it's easy to order thing from uk without cutoms interfering .
We've been friends since childhood and he got involved with some bad people (coke and shit). He will be charged for around 14 kilos of coke, and prolly going to do some hard time to say the least. I've repeatedly trying him to stop that shit, maybe he will stop now

As for plant grower it's sick.
If you get busted they even incl. the root system to the total weight you get prosecuted. Not necessarily jail time, but problem with driver license, children (social services may be contacted), job and so on.

Well, i'm a lot calmer for now. Will wait to germinate next time until investigation is finished.

No judge is going to sign a search warrant on a rat's word alone. Just don't incriminate yourself if you do get a knock, and for god's sake don't let them in, and for god's god's sake, NEVER speak to the cops without an attorney present. Any lawyer worth his salt is going to tell you the same thing.

5BY5LEC said:

No judge is going to sign a search warrant on a rat's word alone. Just don't incriminate yourself if you do get a knock, and for god's sake don't let them in, and for god's god's sake, NEVER speak to the cops without an attorney present. Any lawyer worth his salt is going to tell you the same thing.

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Good advice for us that live in societies that follow the rule of law as we know it in western worlds but the rules aren't the same everywhere.

Exactly, depending on the country they do not care about warrants.