RIU, You chose it, I'm growing it. Fucking Incredible!

laserbrn

laserbrn

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323cheezy said:
Its about time ...it only took u three "what strain should i pick threads"...lolIm subscribed..
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They weren't "What strain should I pick" threads. It was voted on using polls by the members and THEY chose it. It was selected over the course of 3 days and I ordered and got the beans in 8 days so I don't see how it's "about time" either. But, thanks for joining in.
 
laserbrn

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I don't have much to share, the seeds look like they have germinated and should sprout in the next couple of days. I open up one of the holes on the top of the rockwool a little bit (just split it apart) and I can see the white from the taproot so it looks like it just split the seed last night.

I got the veg room all cleaned out, I didn't use mylar this time as it's a PITA and I'm not that into it for this vegging part.

Things have gotten a bit cold here in the past couple of days so I put the rockwool cubes in a clone tray and put the dome on. I've turned everything on (all fans and lights) and I'm testing the temps. Everything is juuuuuuust fine. This is keeping the tray much warmer and should speed germination. I believe it's why they actually cracked last night. It's just been too damn cold. I had to put the dome over the tray because if I don't turn on the oscillating fan the heat accumulates a bit under my T5's, if I leave the cubes out and let the fan blow over them 1x1 rockwool cubes will dry out in about 4 hours. So I have the dome to block the wind and I have the vents wide open on them. I've used this in the past and it works pretty well. The seedlings never seem to mind the extra humidity one bit.

This picture really does a good job of illustrating how SIMPLE my setup is. My flower setup is very similar except the tray is 3x3 and the reservoir is about 10 gallons larger. But these setups are so damn simple I can't imagine ever changing to something else again.
 

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laserbrn said:
I don't have much to share, the seeds look like they have germinated and should sprout in the next couple of days. I open up one of the holes on the top of the rockwool a little bit (just split it apart) and I can see the white from the taproot so it looks like it just split the seed last night.

I got the veg room all cleaned out, I didn't use mylar this time as it's a PITA and I'm not that into it for this vegging part.

Things have gotten a bit cold here in the past couple of days so I put the rockwool cubes in a clone tray and put the dome on. I've turned everything on (all fans and lights) and I'm testing the temps. Everything is juuuuuuust fine. This is keeping the tray much warmer and should speed germination. I believe it's why they actually cracked last night. It's just been too damn cold. I had to put the dome over the tray because if I don't turn on the oscillating fan the heat accumulates a bit under my T5's, if I leave the cubes out and let the fan blow over them 1x1 rockwool cubes will dry out in about 4 hours. So I have the dome to block the wind and I have the vents wide open on them. I've used this in the past and it works pretty well. The seedlings never seem to mind the extra humidity one bit.

This picture really does a good job of illustrating how SIMPLE my setup is. My flower setup is very similar except the tray is 3x3 and the reservoir is about 10 gallons larger. But these setups are so damn simple I can't imagine ever changing to something else again.
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Cosign on that; I'm getting rid of all my DWC/bubbler horseshit and changing everything to E&F, even my cloner.

It's just too easy for words - I love my plants, but I don't have the time to be checking pH/water levels/PPMs in 20 buckets everyday.
 
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laserbrn said:
Things have gotten a bit cold here in the past couple of days so I put the rockwool cubes in a clone tray and put the dome on. I've turned everything on (all fans and lights) and I'm testing the temps. Everything is juuuuuuust fine. This is keeping the tray much warmer and should speed germination. I believe it's why they actually cracked last night. It's just been too damn cold. I had to put the dome over the tray because if I don't turn on the oscillating fan the heat accumulates a bit under my T5's, if I leave the cubes out and let the fan blow over them 1x1 rockwool cubes will dry out in about 4 hours. So I have the dome to block the wind and I have the vents wide open on them. I've used this in the past and it works pretty well. The seedlings never seem to mind the extra humidity one bit.
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A few questions: How long will you leave them under the dome? Do you use a heating pad? How many bulbs are in the T5? 2ft? 24hr light or 18hr? Thanks.

I germinated mine last week. I'm a little ahead of you but I plan to start vegging whenever you do. I was going to start a journal yesterday, but RIU was having issues. Not much excitement to report when they're only 2 inches tall.
 
laserbrn

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A few questions: How long will you leave them under the dome? Do you use a heating pad? How many bulbs are in the T5? 2ft? 24hr light or 18hr? Thanks.

I germinated mine last week. I'm a little ahead of you but I plan to start vegging whenever you do. I was going to start a journal yesterday, but RIU was having issues. Not much excitement to report when they're only 2 inches tall.
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I do not use a heating pad. That's why I had to put them under the light in the warmer room. I used to use a heating pad and germinate the seeds in the dark, but sometimes they would sprout an shoot up in the dark further than I really wanted them to. So I've started doing it this way and on the last go around I still had 100% germination so I'm sticking with it.

The dome will only be on them until all of them sprout. Once they sprout I usually leave the dome on until the taproot has hit the bottom of the cube. Once I have roots out of the bottom of the 1x1 cube I'll put them into the 4x4 cubes. I'll set up the pumps and timers and have them watering once a day from there out. I will generally hand water for a couple of days to let the roots get down into the bigger cube as the water level isn't very high and I really don't want to let those tender seedlings dry out. Here's the problem with this....hand watering rockwool cubes in the beginning will ALWAYS mean algae and/or mold later so be on the ready with rockwool cube covers. Don't skip out on the covers in the early stages if you water from the top, it's a bitch later on.

Lights will be on 18/6 throughout all of veg. I don't really run a 24/0 schedule at all anymore. Used to, but after a few grows I decided it was much more worthwhile to allow my equipment to "rest". It also gives me the ability to manage temperatures using time of day. The warmest 6 hours of the day are my lights off period. Not really a concern in the winter, but part of the routine now.

My lamp is a 4' 6 bulb T5HO. I love this thing and the only way I would ever trade is to use an 8 bulb T5HO. The wide spread of the light allows me to cover a 2x4 tray perfectly which is enough room for me to veg plenty of plants in preparation for flower.
 
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Hey wats up man i can't wait til these hoes sprout and take off. I feel like a noob though cuz i've never even heard of this strain until 2day. Cum check me out man If u get a chance I could Really use sum insight from sumone that has expierience with SOG since i'm thinking of doing this with my current grow.
 
laserbrn

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Alright, it's been 4 days since I put the beans into the cubes to germinate. I believe the cold slowed things down a little, but really 4 days isn't too bad to start gettin sprouts.

So far it looks like at least 6 or 7 of these are going to come up without any problems. I'm actually fairly certain I'll get all 8 as I've always had a 100% germination rate using this method.

They aren't much yet, but here they are. Our first real glimpse at this round of "Fucking Incredible".
 

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laserbrn said:
Alright, it's been 4 days since I put the beans into the cubes to germinate. I believe the cold slowed things down a little, but really 4 days isn't too bad to start gettin sprouts.

So far it looks like at least 6 or 7 of these are going to come up without any problems. I'm actually fairly certain I'll get all 8 as I've always had a 100% germination rate using this method.

They aren't much yet, but here they are. Our first real glimpse at this round of "Fucking Incredible".
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Laser, I just wanted to clarify something regarding your germination...you don't use any weird pre-germination techniques right? No paper towels, no soaking, just dropping a fresh seed into your rockwool (or other medium), water, and wait right?
 
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Jerry Garcia said:
Laser, I just wanted to clarify something regarding your germination...you don't use any weird pre-germination techniques right? No paper towels, no soaking, just dropping a fresh seed into your rockwool (or other medium), water, and wait right?
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You got it. Straight into the medium (in this case rockwool). No paper towels, no dunking in water or any other unnecessary steps. Never had a seed not germinate. ALL of them will come up. Even if one doesn't, it's now gotta be 1 out of 50 or 60 seeds. It's probably more than that, I just don't feel like counting. I've germinated seeds and grown little plants so many times it's deranged. Sometimes I do it even knowing I have no prayer of finishing the plants (obviously bagseeds). I've had them growing in my kitchen before in my AeroGarden right out in the open. I don't flower them there, I just think they look sick as shit as plants in veg.

But through all my seeds, 100% germination.
 
grodrowithme

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hell yea been waitin on this glad i seen the link today i been busy as shit with mine getting close to done. cant wait to see this and try kindseed.com i hope there as good and as reliable as attitude
 
laserbrn

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Dr.RR said:
Oh shit here we go!!! Lol, glad this strain was picked!
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6 of 8 are fully out and the last two are germinated and I can see that the seed is cracked, but they just aren't off to a vigorous start. Hopefully not a sign of their future, but I believe they will come along nonetheless.

I have the 4x4 rockwool cubes soaking now and I will transplant the seedlings and setup the watering system to water once a day for 30 minutes.
 
laserbrn

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My patience ran dry. I decided to rip open the rockwool cubes of the two that didn't sprout and see what the deal is. Both of the seeds DID germinate and did crack and had a taproot, they just weren't going anywhere.

I did receive 12 beans instead of 10 and I did notice that 2 of them were really small. My guess...these were those two beans.

I planted the remaining four and put them all in 4x4 rockwool cubes. The 6 sprouts look good and healthy. I only have 2 (out of 6) of my lamps on right now as I don't really need to cover a lot of space. I have the lamp down at about 16" or so. Should be fine with just the two lamps turned on. If they start to stretch or act funny though I'll raise it to 20" and put it on full blast. Just didn't see the need to waste all of the energy.

Filled the reservoir last night and gave them their first flood this morning. Everything is in place and seems to be working properly. The timer is set to flood once/day for 30 minutes. The only thing different about this grow than my others is that this will be my first grow -start to finish with tap water. My tap water is nasty too, about 540ppm and 8.0+ ph.

I used it for my current flowering run, but I've never used it on seedlings. I have to do it this way though, and it pretty much HAS to work. I can't keep lugging water (it's killing me) and I can't install an RO here easily. I'll likely move in May and I'll keep in mind that I need somewhere that it's easy to hook up an RO!
 
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A couple of things - if you have a hose, the filter I have (Stealth) hooks up right to it, without having to do any real "permanent" changes to water lines - just screw it on the hose and you're basically done.

Also, why do you flood for 30 minutes? I'm new to this whole E&F game, but I thought you wanted to flood for as short as possible that got the job done, no? Does it take your pump 30 minutes to flood the tray?

Thanks for your time.

EDIT: just thought, even if you don't have access to a hose, you can just buy a threaded adapter at Home Depot which will turn your kitchen faucet into the equivalent of a hose so that you can screw the R/O filter connection onto it.
 
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Any RO system needs a serious drain though. To fill a 30 gal tub, you waiste 100-120 gallons down the drain. That's a mess and a half if that hose ends up on the floor!

Good luck with tap water. I believe there are nutrient systems specially formulated for tap water? Are you using one of those?
 
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Bob Smith said:
A couple of things - if you have a hose, the filter I have (Stealth) hooks up right to it, without having to do any real "permanent" changes to water lines - just screw it on the hose and you're basically done.

Also, why do you flood for 30 minutes? I'm new to this whole E&F game, but I thought you wanted to flood for as short as possible that got the job done, no? Does it take your pump 30 minutes to flood the tray?

Thanks for your time.

EDIT: just thought, even if you don't have access to a hose, you can just buy a threaded adapter at Home Depot which will turn your kitchen faucet into the equivalent of a hose so that you can screw the R/O filter connection onto it.
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Do you have a link to this RO filter? I don't have a hose connection anywhere, but I can hook it up to my sink. I've seen those connections before.

I flood for 30 minutes because that's the increments the cheapo timers work on. It's always worked well for me and I don't see any reason flooding for 30 minutes would be a problem.

It takes about 7 minutes to fill the tray to the line where I want it right now. If I could set the timer to 20 minutes, I'd probably do that, but it's not really worth it.

I used to use digi-timers, but I was doing a closet grow once in my bedroom and the damn lights started flickering on an off in the middle of the dark cycle. Strangest shit I'd ever seen and I've since stuck to only the mechanical timers.

I have one digital timer and it's for my Ozone generator so that I can have it off for an hour and half and on for 15 minutes repeating throughout the day.
 
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laserbrn said:
The seeds have been ordered through kindseed.com. I read mixed reviews about this seedbank, but it's nearly impossible to get FI shipped to the US any other way. If this doesn't work out, I'll have to try something else. I promised to practice due diligence in finding these seeds and I will do just that. I purchased these seeds using my credit card so if there's a problem and I can always file a complaint with my CC company.

For those of you who don't already know, I am a California Prop 215 patient. I did not smoke marijuana before my doctor advised me to try it.

I'm not afraid of ordering seeds or conducting my actions above board. I keep my grows to the proper number of legal plants in a reasonably sized garden inside my residence. I DO NOT sell marijuana. I am very addimant about this fact in that I will not even sell my good friends their bud.

Here's what we are looking at.

Strain - Fucking Incredible by Vancouver Island Seed Company

Lights - 600w HPS - Air cooled (flower) T5-HO for Veg.

Space - 4x4x7.5 Grow Tent

Medium - Rockwool/Hydroton on Ebb & Flow trays.

Nutrients - Advanced Nutrients Sensi 2 part. - Bud Blood - Big Bud - Overdrive


I don't know what other information is pertinent at this time, I just wanted to make sure I posted on the day that the seed order went in so that we can record the length of time to receive the seeds as part of the journal.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank the members of RIU for their input in the selection of this strain. For those that are just joining us I selected this strain by having RIU members select 20 strains they would like to see grown. From that list I eliminated 10 strains myself. I then turned it back over to the users who ultimately selected Fucking Incredible.

Hopefully we get fast delivery of the seeds, I'm going to start cleaning up the veg room and preparing it today.
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i have seen this fucking incredible in a magizine outdoor grow or something around those lines... but anyway good choice.. wish i could have thrown in this one erica.jpg
but ive heard a lot of great things about fucking incredible good luck
 
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Pretty damn simple to hookup (and I'm as un-handy as they come) - just screw it into a hose (or hose adapter off of a sink), and you're done - the black line is the "waste" line (which you could simply leave in your sink) and the blue line is where the "good" water comes out of.

The link above is where I got mine from - took a few days, but pretty damn quick.

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laserbrn

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Seems like it would work. I'll have to think about that for the future. Thanks for the link. I have used them in the past and they work very well. Things have just been working out pretty well with the tap water so I'll see how it goes. These are expensive beans to play with, but tap water makes life a lot easier.

I need to drop the money on a dehumidifier right now for winter more than I need the RO, so I'm going to go with that. My lady lost her job so money's tight. I'm just glad I grow my own meds or I'd been in a world of shit.
 
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