Reworking, ROLS recipient help/advise

Greenthumbs256

Greenthumbs256

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hey guys I've been working on this recipe for over a year or so, trying to maximize my living soil, and also trying to cut back on some amendments!

the list is below the red color amounts is what I have just added to my batch today!
total soil is about 6 cu.ft, maybe even 5,

I mix is big ass tote from Walmart it's 4ft long, 2ft wide and 2 ft tall, about! I'm sure it's almost 6cu.ft. total but can't confirm that to save my dam life! which could be the reason my soil is always a lil bit off, no major issues but I can tell it's not 100%. I usually cook for at least 2 months!

I've been cutting down and trying lower amounts each time, heres what I'm at now!

I'm looking for any advise on maybe I should add more or less or maybe even drop another amendment, I've dropped the oyster bc I like the dolomite more for my sips, and I've also dropped the biolive, bc it just seemed like too much!

but again the red numbers are the amount I've already added in cups!

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Greenthumbs256

Greenthumbs256

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also I've tried using that dam soil calculator and for what ever reason I'm screwing up and getting told it's like 2 cu. ft. which I know is no way in hell, would be at least 4

so I added pics of my tote along with the exact measurements of it in hopes someone could confirm exactly(or close) to how many cu. ft that I cook at a time!

thank you guys I appreciate the help!!!

also I know the soil isn't full but it will be almost to rim!
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width ...

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and length?? Idk it's the other way the dam things a rectangle!CM181116-194932003.jpg


and height or how tall it is!

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MustangStudFarm

MustangStudFarm

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Greenthumbs256 said:
hey guys I've been working on this recipe for over a year or so, trying to maximize my living soil, and also trying to cut back on some amendments!
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I've been testing my soil for a couple of years now and I always have more than enough phosphorus and I am just using crustacean meal and I am following Clackamas Coots. It looks like we are on the same page except for the fish bone meal, that is the only one that I would drop. My test results always come back high in P and low in trace minerals. Compost by itself has plenty of P...
Greenthumbs256 said:
also I've tried using that dam soil calculator and for what ever reason I'm screwing up and getting told it's like 2 cu. ft. which I know is no way in hell, would be at least 4
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7 1/2gallons to a cubic foot...I use 32gal storage totes, so that is about 4 cubic feet.
 
MustangStudFarm

MustangStudFarm

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Greenthumbs256 said:
I'm looking for any advise on maybe I should add more or less or maybe even drop another amendment, I've dropped the oyster bc I like the dolomite more for my sips,
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The magnesium/calcium ratio is off on rock dusts, so that is why people use OSF. Oyster is something like 93% calcium carbonate and it doesn't have much Mg, so it will balance out the high Mg levels in the rock dust. At least with basalt and Glacial rock dust you get extra trace elements like iron and zinc. I found dolomite to be useless because I'm trying to raise my Brix levels and dolomite don't help.

When you look at a Mehlich 3 soil test there is a section for base saturation ratio. Ca, Mg, and K have an antagonist relationship with eachother and if one is too high, it will lock-out the other. So, too much Mg will drive down K and Ca along with other things.
 
MustangStudFarm

MustangStudFarm

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Greenthumbs256 said:
I need to have a soil test done on my stuff!
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Here is the solubility test that I have been getting. It's kind of hard going with one test or the other because they don't tell you the full story. However, if your soil is aged the Soil Savvy test has been spot on. It's not very accurate if you amend the soil and send it in the same week though, the Mehlich 3(Logan Labs) would be more accurate then.

Really, the Soil Savvy test is more helpful because it does account for nutrient lockout and that is mostly what you need to look at. It's all pre-paid with the kit like the lab fees and shipping.

https://www.amazon.com/Soil-Savvy-Understand-Fertilizer-Recommendation/dp/B01GIMOG8A/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1542491661&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=soil+savvy&psc=1
 
projectinfo

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MustangStudFarm said:
I've been testing my soil for a couple of years now and I always have more than enough phosphorus and I am just using crustacean meal and I am following Clackamas Coots. It looks like we are on the same page except for the fish bone meal, that is the only one that I would drop. My test results always come back high in P and low in trace minerals. Compost by itself has plenty of P...

7 1/2gallons to a cubic foot...I use 32gal storage totes, so that is about 4 cubic feet.
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Man 32 gal, do you ever lift em up?

Im using 17×gal container per plant. And tbeir heavy enough full of wet soil . And i got a deal on mine , their pretty flimsey Unfourtunitly

How do you find those big totes to work with on a yearly basis
 
Greenthumbs256

Greenthumbs256

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projectinfo said:
Man 32 gal, do you ever lift em up?

Im using 17×gal container per plant. And tbeir heavy enough full of wet soil . And i got a deal on mine , their pretty flimsey Unfourtunitly

How do you find those big totes to work with on a yearly basis
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I've had my tote for about 3 years like 20 bucks at Walmart! still works great lid has to be Duck tapped down, but no issues! also its never moves don't think I could move it if I tried!
 
projectinfo

projectinfo

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Greenthumbs256 said:
I've had my tote for about 3 years like 20 bucks at Walmart! still works great lid has to be Duck tapped down, but no issues! also its never moves don't think I could move it if I tried!
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Mine keeps cracking lol

I got totes cooking on a shelf. Dont ask . Its working man.. No pics


After this hydro run is done the floorspace will be for the sips.


But currently keeping them at field capacity mixing in bokashi every two weks and turning in the mold . Letting em colonize and ferment over the next few months until these finish.
 
Greenthumbs256

Greenthumbs256

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projectinfo said:
Mine keeps cracking lol

I got totes cooking on a shelf. Dont ask . Its working man.. No pics


After this hydro run is done the floorspace will be for the sips.


But currently keeping them at field capacity mixing in bokashi every two weks and turning in the mold . Letting em colonize and ferment over the next few months until these finish.
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I think every two weeks may be a tad over kill, not that think I can hurt, just not cheap! grokashi goes along way!
 
Greenthumbs256

Greenthumbs256

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projectinfo said:
Aya how often, how much are you using?
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I top when cooking soil,about a cup, once or twice i usally cook for 2 months!

then I do 2 top dressing on my sips, one before planting and one after, once that's done in do not open the top ever again until after harvest!

I've went into a lot of detail in the thread on all of that! literally all the questions you have asked, I've posted on this thread with over kill details!!!
 
Greenthumbs256

Greenthumbs256

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oh wait sorry it's the other thread!

the gorilla glue thread that ur also in! read it man, and you will know everything I know lol put a lot of work into that!
 
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