m4s73r
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Exactly. I feed BAS craft blend to my worm bin at a rate of 1/4 cup every 2 weeks. The casting are amazing.
Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread
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m4s73r
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This thread dudes. Im 20 days from harvest and I took a couple of really cool shots. I attribute my success to this thread a lot. So I started this No till thing 5 years ago. Im sure if i looked i could find my posts back in the 200 pages somewhere. My garden has become such my hobby that my wife is SICK of hearing about it. Ive started a new bed as well. So just some pics and just giving back for others including some tips.
Tip one: Get your Aloe on. Cloning, plant food, whetting agent... im not going to go on. Just grow it and then go figure out why.
Tip 2. Mulch. Whenever i get asked about my grow being so clean, i always say the same thing, my soil is a living organism that will devour organic material like a fat kid eats cake. All Sticks, stems, roots, leaves, trim, leftover runs through the hash machine, ewc, amendments, get fed to the bed. Hell can you grow some shit to then chop down and feed the bed. Above you can see the clover. I mow that shit like grass to feed the bed. Did you feed your bed today?
Tip 3. MULCH
Tip 4: 5% rule. for every 20 gallons of soil water 1 gallon. I have 220 gallons of soil. I water 11 gallons.
Final tip. Rocks. Nice and flat, give a home to the bugs. I use 4. clear away the mulch layer and put them right on the soil. pack your mulch in around them.
I proly should have told you to mulch again...
Tip one: Get your Aloe on. Cloning, plant food, whetting agent... im not going to go on. Just grow it and then go figure out why.
Tip 2. Mulch. Whenever i get asked about my grow being so clean, i always say the same thing, my soil is a living organism that will devour organic material like a fat kid eats cake. All Sticks, stems, roots, leaves, trim, leftover runs through the hash machine, ewc, amendments, get fed to the bed. Hell can you grow some shit to then chop down and feed the bed. Above you can see the clover. I mow that shit like grass to feed the bed. Did you feed your bed today?
Tip 3. MULCH
Tip 4: 5% rule. for every 20 gallons of soil water 1 gallon. I have 220 gallons of soil. I water 11 gallons.
Final tip. Rocks. Nice and flat, give a home to the bugs. I use 4. clear away the mulch layer and put them right on the soil. pack your mulch in around them.
I proly should have told you to mulch again...
bobrown14
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@unfiltered - yes you got it. Minerals and rock dust too. That helps the worms digestion.
Lets say I bought some crappy feather meal for some dumb reason. I can add it into the vermi-bin. Worms make short work of it.
Lets say I bought some crappy feather meal for some dumb reason. I can add it into the vermi-bin. Worms make short work of it.
firsttimeARE
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Is there a special way to let the coots mix cook? Was thinking of using some black white poly and putting the black side up and covering the mix and adding water every so often to remoisten.
m4s73r
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I dont really cook mine. When i first mixed up my new Hugel bed it got up to 90 for a few days then was back down. I will say this, Keep your pile under a yard. You start getting over a yard and you have to worry about it going thermal. So keep that in mind. split it up if your doing it like that and rest it in 2 piles.
SouthernSoil*
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Anyway that neem oil can be used as a replacement for neem seed meal ? Maybe mixing the oil with water and adding it to the mix ?
firsttimeARE
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Ill be at 16CF or a little over half a cubic yard. Trying to do 12 10gal pots. Which I read theres like 1.33CF in a 10gal pot. Debating digging holes and filling with my mix vs using pots.
Thanks for sharing your garden. Looks killer.
firsttimeARE
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What is your mix like? I wanna start buying ingredients. The clover cover crop do you just sprinkle seeds periodically? How do you mow just use scissors? Do you bury the foliage that you add or just leave on the top. The rocks are a cool idea. Since ill be in pots and not a bed not sure if that will work.
m4s73r
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I suppose you could, but why? Do you just like mixing things?
1cuft is 7.5 gallons if measured correctly. However not all manufactures do this, in some cases its more like 7 gallons. FFOF is a solid 10 gallons for 1.5 cuft. Here is a link to the lastest mix i made. https://www.rollitup.org/t/m4s73rs-perpetual-organic-led-grow.1033634/post-16170553
I sow it in once and just keep it growing. It maintain its self. And you got it just, chop it with scissors. I use these https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07YDBYY7Y/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Just leave it on top. Done use the rocks in pots. But make sure you have mulch/hay for the clover. Dont use clover in pots smaller then 25 gallon. Your cannabis plant will fight your clover and your crop with suffer.
bobrown14
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Never thought about rocks indoors. We use them in our outdoor beds. Thanks for the tip.
Ever try leaf mold for your mulch layer? We moved to a new home so didn't have our vermi-bins up and running so we hadda get creative and used leaf mold as the mulch. Works GREAT. Saved our garden we had a drought last outdoor season. Lost 2 out of 11 cannabis plants.
Mr Westmont
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Hey guys, just wanted to do a Living Soil picture dump for historical purposes. All plants are grown in living soil/No-till/Organic/Vegan. Have fun! (ill add strain names later).
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m4s73r
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Yes sir, got 3 black garbage bags outside just cooking in the sun full of leaves. My leaf mulch is now always 3 years cooked. I only use one bag a year so i got a good rotation now. With the new second bed i may move up to 2 bags. Well see. Had i not needed to make this bed as soon as I did, I would have waited till next year and bagged up enough leaves to cook all summer. But as they say, proper planning prevents piss poor progress.
bobrown14
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You like cooking the leaves in black contractor bags?? Does it go faster than say a compost pile with leaves mixed in? We add leaves to the vermi bins and make piles along the edge of the woods.
Vermi bins take a bit of time to get "mature" or properly cured. Will be our first compost this spring from out Vermi bins we set up in 2019 at our new place. We have wooded portion of our lot so we can harvest the wild stuff. That could me many years old. We gotta make a trail to get to the good stuff. We gotta get in and out before the tics wake up.
Freaking tics.. got Lyme 2x since moving here in 2019. 2nd round was very bad and still in recovery.
Vermi bins take a bit of time to get "mature" or properly cured. Will be our first compost this spring from out Vermi bins we set up in 2019 at our new place. We have wooded portion of our lot so we can harvest the wild stuff. That could me many years old. We gotta make a trail to get to the good stuff. We gotta get in and out before the tics wake up.
Freaking tics.. got Lyme 2x since moving here in 2019. 2nd round was very bad and still in recovery.
m4s73r
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Well compost and leaf mold aren't exactly the same thing. Leaf mold goes through a fungal break down, where as compost piles go through a bacterial break down. Same end result. But throwing them in black garbage bags and just wetting them down takes no thought. Where as with compost I got to have the right amount of green and brown, Maybe a starter...ect. And imo the texture of just plain leaf mold is nicer then compost. Its... fluffier? I dont know, once you play with you'll understand what i mean. its not grainy like ewc. I do recommend spending the money on either a leaf vacuum or a standing shredder. That will really cut down on the decomp time as well make a finer product in the end.
Yeah with a wooded a lot thats great. Avoid cedar, black walnut, and black locust. Pine is okay if you have no other option. I prefer oak and maple. One is soft one is hard. It will take awhile for all that wood to break down. I'm not familure with worm bins taking so long to "mature". My worm bin was dumping casting out after a few months.
SouthernSoil*
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Lol i bit the bullet and ordered the neem seed meal & crab/lobster meal for 100$ including shipping, not bad considering the crop i should get out of it. Have you possibly tried the stuff from Zatural ( organic neem cake ) though ? And hopefully Neptunes Crab and Lobster meal isnt too bad. Only one that would ship to my side of the planet.
bobrown14
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Been at composting a long time pretty much all my adult life. I just never tried leaves in bags. Interesting idea.
Aware of leaf mold. We have several acres of woodland. With may tree species. Thinning out the black walnut but I'm good with the leaves. They compost fine.
Our vermi-bins we let cook over winter and fill them all spring summer and fall. We let one go dormant and it finishes off by spring planting time. The longer the vermi-bin goes dormant the better the compost. We run 2 vermi-bins and rotate each winter. Shut one down and start using the empty one and repeat.
green_machine_two9er
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Nice stuff. I wondering about a water % after first time built soil. You think it’s close to that 5%. Sometimes I swear it take so much water to get soil to saturation
Thanks for the tips !