Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

Getgrowingson

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Friday vs Sunday out of the basement. Ridiculous. I guess I'm going to try super high rH, it's the only thing I can think of to try that is different between my closet / basement. Closet has no ventilation so it's higher humidity.
What type of tent is it? Some cheap ones do off gas a nasty gas and will hurt you and your babies. Not sure if you said what type it is but something to look at.
 

bizfactory

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What type of tent is it? Some cheap ones do off gas a nasty gas and will hurt you and your babies. Not sure if you said what type it is but something to look at.
Thanks man, I am actually going to take the tents and ventilation down to see if they can be happy in the basement at all. No clue what's down there but I'm actually getting scared to spend time down there myself.

The tents are HTG and Secret Jardin so def not total knock offs.

I've been reading about using ozone to kill mold, fungus, spores, etc. Running out of ideas fast. Just sucks when I know it's not anything I'm doing wrong myself. Bring the plants upstairs and they recover in a few days.
 
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Al Yamoni

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Just completed my first ever harvest and this thread was invaluable in the process so I wanted to share the fruits of my labor and say thanks to everyone who contributed their knowledge. Everything is washed and is currently drying and I can't wait to get stuck into these delicious buds! Cheers!
Is there a thread here on RIU on the bud washing tech? I'm interested to try it...
 

Quintessence

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Is there a thread here on RIU on the bud washing tech? I'm interested to try it...
Not sure but I found my info over on 420 Mag. It's Doc420's technique if you want to google it. The long and short of it is: one 5 gal bucket of clean water (i used distilled) mixed with half a cup of baking soda and half a cup of lemon juice. That's the wash bucket. You then rinse in two other buckets (one after the other) filled with just regular filtered or distilled water. 15 seconds or so in each, swish em around but not too aggressively and hang to dry.

I left some unwashed in order to compare, keep in mind, my buds are still in the tent drying and probably need another day or two before I get the stem snap, however I have noticed that the washed buds seem to be drying a little faster than the unwashed (unexpected). They both smell just as strong and I can't notice any negligible difference on the washed buds under the scope. Same trichome density and structure on both. I'll looking forward to seeing how they compare when smoked.
 

Afgan King

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So been looking thru here and there is so much to take in. I've been growing synthetic for about 10 years now and have on a commercial level. My new goal is to conquer rols and this seems like the right thread to ask in. I'm wondering if anyone has a list of their mix like if I were to go to the store and buy it money isn't issue for this project I've always been amazed by the smoke of some true organics. Is there anyone here willing to take me under their wing?
 

Al Yamoni

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Not sure but I found my info over on 420 Mag. It's Doc420's technique if you want to google it. The long and short of it is: one 5 gal bucket of clean water (i used distilled) mixed with half a cup of baking soda and half a cup of lemon juice. That's the wash bucket. You then rinse in two other buckets (one after the other) filled with just regular filtered or distilled water. 15 seconds or so in each, swish em around but not too aggressively and hang to dry.

I left some unwashed in order to compare, keep in mind, my buds are still in the tent drying and probably need another day or two before I get the stem snap, however I have noticed that the washed buds seem to be drying a little faster than the unwashed (unexpected). They both smell just as strong and I can't notice any negligible difference on the washed buds under the scope. Same trichome density and structure on both. I'll looking forward to seeing how they compare when smoked.
Thanks for the details, I appreciate that. I have seen the dirty water that comes from the wash and its enough to peak my interest...
 

Joe Blows Trees

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So been looking thru here and there is so much to take in. I've been growing synthetic for about 10 years now and have on a commercial level. My new goal is to conquer rols and this seems like the right thread to ask in. I'm wondering if anyone has a list of their mix like if I were to go to the store and buy it money isn't issue for this project I've always been amazed by the smoke of some true organics. Is there anyone here willing to take me under their wing?
This is one of my current mixes I'm using. I still have some other mixes going as well with more ingredients but I truly believe that this is a great start for everyone that is very reasonably priced. I used to amend commerical soils until I got enlighten.

Soil Base - Per Cubic Foot

33% Priemier Peat (brand name) I buy this for 9.99 at lowes 3cfu
33% Pumice/Perlite/Lava rock (I'm using perlite cause I have much on hand)
33% Combination of Compost and vermicompost.

Note: Always use quality amendments and compost in your soil. Just like anything, you get what you put into it, or just like quality good food, fresh ingredients makes for a better end product. If you don't make your own compost or casting try to source some local. If you need a commercial product there are brands like Bu's Compost and a few other quality ones.

Plants are top-dressed with 2" of vermicompost

Amendment Mix

1/2 cup Organic Neem or Karanja Meal
1/2 cup Organic Kelp Meal

Rock Dust Mix

4 cups Basalt & Glacial Rock Dust Mix

Lime Mix

1/2 cup Gypsum
1/2 cup Crab Meal
This should be a good start for you.
 

GreenSanta

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The first video I found on the subject.
This is awesome, I started washing my buds to clean spider mites every now and again, I just give em a good spray with water from the tap, a tip here, before I hang to dry I twist in the stem in between my index and my thumb to spin the buds like a car wash thing would spin almost, takes most of the water off. I have found that when I rinse/wash my buds, they seem to dry faster! comes out very clean looking, some strain dry to look darker washed vs not washed. Thanks for sharing, makes me feel better about washing my buds when I have to and I will try the bucket technique!!
 

Quintessence

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This is awesome, I started washing my buds to clean spider mites every now and again, I just give em a good spray with water from the tap, a tip here, before I hang to dry I twist in the stem in between my index and my thumb to spin the buds like a car wash thing would spin almost, takes most of the water off. I have found that when I rinse/wash my buds, they seem to dry faster! comes out very clean looking, some strain dry to look darker washed vs not washed. Thanks for sharing, makes me feel better about washing my buds when I have to and I will try the bucket technique!!
I love your spinning idea and yes I agree that washed buds dry faster. Bud washing FTW!! :)
 
I'm new to notill. I have a dilemma. Short story.
I had broad mites:( There gone naturally with neem, and many essential oils used at a spray. Also, I have used fresh aloe and coconut juice in a spray on off days along with compost and botanical teas. They are now happy. I put a top dressing on too. I started these plants in Nectar for the Gods soil #4 and used their nuts. But, I lost the crop before due to the bugs, so I could not afford those crazy nut prices. So I went on line to find a solution and stumbled across notill information. I had heard a little but was intimidated. The more I read the more interested I became. Wow! I just added a top dressing and planted a clover cover crop spray and water with teas..........I also put some worms into the pots. I don't really know what I'm doing...HELP! So now I have my babies that need to be transplanted because their not really babies any more. I have been going crazy looking at different recipes and I can't decide. I was wondering if there might be a recipe that I can plant into right away? I can't wait 6 weeks. Something I can put together and not have it cost 500 like it does from buld-a-soil or KIS, (Great companies). I have 12 plants going into 15 gallon pots. Here are a few websites that make soil for organic outdoor gardens. I'm wondering is someone could look at it and let me know If any of them would work for now. Then maybe recommend a recipe for my next cycle.
On this site I'm looking at: Growers Best Blend. They say they make it specially for cannabis growers but never heard of anyone using it for indoor. They don't see why it wouldn't work.
http://3rpspq2uihpo4pxh330sjdez.wpen...aul3.4.16-.pdf
Here is the other one that also says the same thing.
It's the White Lighting mix:
http://fineroutdoorliving.com/composts6.php
I'm over the top stressed about all this. So any support is greatly appreciated. I also was wondering if I could add any thing to any of these. They told me I could plant directly into the soil right away. Thanks so much if you can help me.
 

GreenSanta

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I'm new to notill. I have a dilemma. Short story.
I had broad mites:( There gone naturally with neem, and many essential oils used at a spray. Also, I have used fresh aloe and coconut juice in a spray on off days along with compost and botanical teas. They are now happy. I put a top dressing on too. I started these plants in Nectar for the Gods soil #4 and used their nuts. But, I lost the crop before due to the bugs, so I could not afford those crazy nut prices. So I went on line to find a solution and stumbled across notill information. I had heard a little but was intimidated. The more I read the more interested I became. Wow! I just added a top dressing and planted a clover cover crop spray and water with teas..........I also put some worms into the pots. I don't really know what I'm doing...HELP! So now I have my babies that need to be transplanted because their not really babies any more. I have been going crazy looking at different recipes and I can't decide. I was wondering if there might be a recipe that I can plant into right away? I can't wait 6 weeks. Something I can put together and not have it cost 500 like it does from buld-a-soil or KIS, (Great companies). I have 12 plants going into 15 gallon pots. Here are a few websites that make soil for organic outdoor gardens. I'm wondering is someone could look at it and let me know If any of them would work for now. Then maybe recommend a recipe for my next cycle.
On this site I'm looking at: Growers Best Blend. They say they make it specially for cannabis growers but never heard of anyone using it for indoor. They don't see why it wouldn't work.
http://3rpspq2uihpo4pxh330sjdez.wpen...aul3.4.16-.pdf
Here is the other one that also says the same thing.
It's the White Lighting mix:
http://fineroutdoorliving.com/composts6.php
I'm over the top stressed about all this. So any support is greatly appreciated. I also was wondering if I could add any thing to any of these. They told me I could plant directly into the soil right away. Thanks so much if you can help me.
If you are not that worried about yield and want quality smoke, just mix potting soil and well made fresh local worm castings, that's it. If you want more yield you can also do this and buy some organic liquid nutrients like a 4-4-4 or whatever. Best cheapest solution for you right now.
 

Quintessence

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I'm new to notill. I have a dilemma. Short story.
I had broad mites:( There gone naturally with neem, and many essential oils used at a spray. Also, I have used fresh aloe and coconut juice in a spray on off days along with compost and botanical teas. They are now happy. I put a top dressing on too. I started these plants in Nectar for the Gods soil #4 and used their nuts. But, I lost the crop before due to the bugs, so I could not afford those crazy nut prices. So I went on line to find a solution and stumbled across notill information. I had heard a little but was intimidated. The more I read the more interested I became. Wow! I just added a top dressing and planted a clover cover crop spray and water with teas..........I also put some worms into the pots. I don't really know what I'm doing...HELP! So now I have my babies that need to be transplanted because their not really babies any more. I have been going crazy looking at different recipes and I can't decide. I was wondering if there might be a recipe that I can plant into right away? I can't wait 6 weeks. Something I can put together and not have it cost 500 like it does from buld-a-soil or KIS, (Great companies). I have 12 plants going into 15 gallon pots. Here are a few websites that make soil for organic outdoor gardens. I'm wondering is someone could look at it and let me know If any of them would work for now. Then maybe recommend a recipe for my next cycle.
On this site I'm looking at: Growers Best Blend. They say they make it specially for cannabis growers but never heard of anyone using it for indoor. They don't see why it wouldn't work.
http://3rpspq2uihpo4pxh330sjdez.wpen...aul3.4.16-.pdf
Here is the other one that also says the same thing.
It's the White Lighting mix:
http://fineroutdoorliving.com/composts6.php
I'm over the top stressed about all this. So any support is greatly appreciated. I also was wondering if I could add any thing to any of these. They told me I could plant directly into the soil right away. Thanks so much if you can help me.
FYI.. I bought the build a soil nutrient/mineral kit and mixed up my own soil using locally purchased peat, pumice, compost (bu's malibu and good quality ewc) and made about 10 cubic feet of soil. I only cooked it for a week and now I'm using it with great success The trick is feeding it with lots of microbes before you do the week long cook. I used a compost tea that I made along with some EM1. The pile was hot within a day and stayed warm for about a week. I turned it a couple times, planted and my girls are doing great. If you go this route you'll save a considerable amount of $ over buying the pre-made bags from build a soil. If you go back to the first page of this thread, Cann has a great set of instructions for soil building.
 

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If you are not that worried about yield and want quality smoke, just mix potting soil and well made fresh local worm castings, that's it. If you want more yield you can also do this and buy some organic liquid nutrients like a 4-4-4 or whatever. Best cheapest solution for you right now.
Thanks, It's great to get support and suggestions from people that have experience.
 
Does anyone have or know of a recipe for no-till that uses coconut coir instead of peat-moss? Or can I just replace the peat-moss using any of the good no-till recipes?
 

Getgrowingson

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Does anyone have or know of a recipe for no-till that uses coconut coir instead of peat-moss? Or can I just replace the peat-moss using any of the good no-till recipes?
I did 50/50 coco but I'm a newb with organics. Read this whole thread and I believe a couple have done it with success. I like the aeration of coco so instead of straight peat I threw some in. Figured a little diversity never hurt anything.
 
More questions. What do all these stand for? I have been reading and reading and everyone else seems to know so they don't explain. I've even done searches but find all kinds of other meanings. ACT, EWU, FPE, CaCO3, SPR.
 
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