Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

[testiclees]

What happens to potassium when it breaks down... look it up. There's also plenty of sugars in molasses which is the food stock and does raise brix levels by increasing bacteria population and utilizing trace minerals already in molasses via chelating. If you dig around early on in this thread you will see the Harvard studies on molasses and water and plants i posted.

Btw I use corn seed sst for raising brix levels . I only use molasses once or twice and that's it.

If you don't think molasses raises brix levels I highly suggest getting a brix meter and test it.

I already have a long time ago. And documented in one of my threads. @GreenSanta did as well.

Ive taken loads of brix readings on my ladies and at farmers markets for most of the growi g seaso over a few years..Refractometers are a very general assessment of nutritional content. Sap and tissue readings are far more legit. Perhaps molasses adds sugar to a plants vascular system. If you think that means its high brix, youre mistaken.

Jon Frank and John Kempf are probably the best known high brix crop consultants in the usa. As far as i know you will not find molasses in their products. The role of the soil.microbes in bigh brix growing is to digest the mineral content in the growing media. Adding molasses has the opposite effect by offeriing the organisms donuts and soda rather than square meal..think about it

 

[VTMi'kmaq]

I think I may have found a gem of a find in regards to soil mix "amendments". I was doing some landscaping work for a relative recently and ran out of topsoil. They said they'd buy more but they live on the edge of the woods so I told them that's completely unnecessary, I'd go dig up some really top notch midwest forest humus. Well in doing this I found what appears to be the remnants of a once colossal tree stump. The soil is a very dark and rich black/brown and has a very porous texture. Smells absolutely amazing too. About a foot below the top of the soil I find lumps of rotten wood thats almost unrecognizable as such (Score!!). It's mostly leaf mold/rotted/en wood/ and our native clay based soil as far as I can tell.
I plan to collect about 30 gallons of it to screen for my indoor notill planters / house plants. Hopefully once these rain storms let up I can get it screened and whatnot for pictures. I go on vacation next week so all of my projects that have been building up are going to get demolished!!

You can smell GOOD SOIL, call me nuts but im a firm believer in forest soil thats top notch has a unique smell, at least in northeastern forests, deciduous forest, with a sprinkling of cedar and pine patches every now and then has been very kind to me.

 

[Joedank]

You can smell GOOD SOIL, call me nuts but im a firm believer in forest soil thats top notch has a unique smell, at least in northeastern forests, deciduous forest, with a sprinkling of cedar and pine patches every now and then has been very kind to me.

new studies show that old growth forest has 1000's of myclium per slide way more than bacterial counts...
sap is the way to go . if you can afford tissue analysis imo..

 

[st0wandgrow]

Ya, i use most of the IAG stuff. Most important points about high brix: you need to soil test and you cant be thinking compost is manna.

I dont think amaze is organic, but not positive.

@hyroot , pretty sure doc bud and co are the cannabis high brix leaders. they do not use molasses at all for at least 2 reasons : 1- it is high in K. K is kept at minimal levels in high brix and for that reason most compost is also not useful. 2-molasses is a food source for the biota. In high brix growing the goal is to develop a biological soil dynamic where the dominant microorganisms are digesting minerals for nourishment and not sugar.

Doc bud just seems to be peddling his "kit" more than anything else.

 

[nvhak49]

What's a good enzyme to help break down old roots?

 

[Mohican]

Kelp/Seaweed is great for supplying micronutrients.

I also drop a tablet of Chelated Copper supplements into my water.

 

[Darth Vapour]

hey you Bunch of hooligans lol figured i post how my simple 40 / 40 compost and top soil mix is doing 10 percent cardboard , 5 percent grass clippings and 5 percent worms with only rain water first up one big plnt she stand 8 + feet tall and easy 8+ feet wide Cherry pie x pck she will finish 12 - 13 feet tall and hoping for 10 pound harvest anyways 0 nutrients only water is from rain fall

Second up is week 4 from force flipping strain cherry pie x pck again 0 nutrients 0 teas only rain water fed pretty impressed with this simple soil mixture and top dressing fresh gras clippings only

Enjoy

 

[testiclees]

Doc bud just seems to be peddling his "kit" more than anything else.

no more than anyone who has a product they believe in. Doc's got hundreds of very good grows credited to his kit and dozens that are spectacular by any measure.

Plus its, about 80$..

How many nitwits right here spend $100s cluelessly enriching bottled magic sheisters.

 

[testiclees]

What's a good enzyme to help break down old roots?

z-hume works

 

[testiclees]

hey you Bunch of hooligans lol figured i post how my simple 40 / 40 compost and top soil mix is doing 10 percent cardboard , 5 percent grass clippings and 5 percent worms with only rain water first up one big plnt she stand 8 + feet tall and easy 8+ feet wide Cherry pie x pck she will finish 12 - 13 feet tall and hoping for 10 pound harvest anyways 0 nutrients only water is from rain fall

Second up is week 4 from force flipping strain cherry pie x pck again 0 nutrients 0 teas only rain water fed pretty impressed with this simple soil mixture and top dressing fresh gras clippings only View attachment 3469037View attachment 3469049 View attachment 3469050 View attachment 3469052 View attachment 3469054

Enjoy

damn DV, RESPECT those are beauties. they been outdoors whole time?

 

[st0wandgrow]

no more than anyone who has a product they believe in. Doc's got hundreds of very good grows credited to his kit and dozens that are spectacular by any measure.

Plus its, about 80$..

How many nitwits right here spend $100s cluelessly enriching bottled magic sheisters.

That's a good comparison.... nitwits that spend all sorts of money on a bunch of bottles, and nitwits that buy in to docs magic kit. It's like a cult. smh

 

[testiclees]

That's a good comparison.... nitwits that spend all sorts of money on a bunch of bottles, and nitwits that buy in to docs magic kit. It's like a cult. smh

you better google magic because those hundreds of pics showing kit bud at 420 are not magical they are smokeable.

keep it real bro

 

[Darth Vapour]

damn DV, RESPECT those are beauties. they been outdoors whole time?

Started seeds in door and out door or all there life even with snow hitting the ground left them in buckets and planted in ground may 28'ish transplanted the one cherry pie flowering into that one and forced it to flower placing it into garage after 12 hrs of sunlight for 2 weeks and left it outdoor ever since 17 hrs of sunlight presently

 

[st0wandgrow]

you better google magic because those hundreds of pics showing kit bud at 420 are not magical they are smokeable.

keep it real bro

I've looked at his pics. And?

He's no different than any other cat trying to cash in on this. Nothing wrong with that per se, but let's not get carried away. It's a plant, and a pretty easy one to grow at that.

 

[Darth Vapour]

i spent absolutely nothing on my soil and i tell you this is true organic compost and top soil with natural additives other then cardboard which the worms go nuts over ( Starch )

 

[testiclees]

I've looked at his pics. And?

He's no different than any other cat trying to cash in on this. Nothing wrong with that per se, but let's not get carried away. It's a plant, and a pretty easy one to grow at that.

calling it "magic" is getting carried away. it seems like you dont appreciate the critical differences between science and magic.

Cashing in could mean being a lying POS or it could mean someone who has invested and done research creating something that works. Doc buds stuff is based on the exact science that IAG uses and very similar to others who follow Albrecht. It is based on soil science. Doc simply used IAG to consult on cannabis. It plainly works and it helps people grow superb weed, veggies too.

If you have experience with the kit share it with us please. It sounds to me like you dont know much about the concepts. Im wondering why you have an opinion.

 

[testiclees]

Started seeds in door and out door or all there life even with snow hitting the ground left them in buckets and planted in ground may 28'ish transplanted the one cherry pie flowering into that one and forced it to flower placing it into garage after 12 hrs of sunlight for 2 weeks and left it outdoor ever since 17 hrs of sunlight presently

impressive

they are some robust females.

 

[st0wandgrow]

i spent absolutely nothing on my soil and i tell you this is true organic compost and top soil with natural additives other then cardboard which the worms go nuts over ( Starch )

Compost? That's expressly forbidden in Doc Buds high brix growing/kit.

calling it "magic" is getting carried away. it seems like you dont appreciate the critical differences between science and magic.

Cashing in could mean being a lying POS or it could mean someone who has invested and done research creating something that works. Doc buds stuff is based on the exact science that IAG uses and very similar to others who follow Albrecht. It is based on soil science. Doc simply used IAG to consult on cannabis. It plainly works and it helps people grow superb weed, veggies too.

If you have experience with the kit share it with us please. It sounds to me like you dont know much about the concepts. Im wondering why you have an opinion.

I have an opinion because the implication in the thread is bullshit. Use doc buds wonder kit, or else your weed will be inferior. Just like I have an opinion on a nutrient manufacturer suggesting you need 14 different bottles of salts to grow good weed.

I stopped reading when I saw that he frowns upon compost and potassium.

You seem pretty defensive over this. What's up?

 

[Darth Vapour]

lol wtf is docs high brix growing kit ???? i tell yeah does plant look like low brix ??? shes extremely healthy for 5th week and only rain water used i will do brix reading in another 2 weeks lol as well send samples in on soil and buds to get tested for THC CBD and any toxins

 

[Darth Vapour]

Sounds like some monkey trying to cash in on the organic trend with trying to sell you a product that will do better then what mother nature can do lol