Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

[DonTesla]

Will make sure there is some airflow indirectly blowing bro thank you : )


Awesome bro, would a porcelain plate maybe do the trick aswell ?



Bro did you mean terpenes evaporate at high temperatures or low temperatures ? Cause im going to struggle getting temps below 26c here, ill definitely try see what glass i can get my hands on though. Would ice cubes help with cooling and humidity possibly ? Respect

26 is hot buddy, yeah that will bake some aromatic organ-fixing terpenes into the air, but you will survive.
21 is the magic temp imo. Lower ok if mold not concern. Terpenes evap at high temps. Even medium high, bro

You can freeze dry but I haven't learned enough to help on the subject with any authority.

Porcelain is ok if paint doesn't come up off it when scraped with a razor, but dollar stores have them and that way you can collect the trichs that fall.

I used my tablet one time to see how much I was losing.
You do lose some primo trichs, more the more potent..so
Glass is nice, but I'd just get it for next time if its a hassle.

 

[Midwest Weedist]

26 is hot buddy, yeah that will bake some aromatic organ-fixing terpenes into the air, but you will survive.
21 is the magic temp imo. Lower ok if mold not concern. Terpenes evap at high temps. Even medium high, bro

You can freeze dry but I haven't learned enough to help on the subject with any authority.

Porcelain is ok if paint doesn't come up off it when scraped with a razor, but dollar stores have them and that way you can collect the trichs that fall.

I used my tablet one time to see how much I was losing.
You do lose some primo trichs, more the more potent..so
Glass is nice, but I'd just get it for next time if its a hassle.

Parchment paper is something I've grown to love using. The trichomes just slide off of it when you're done.

 

[DonTesla]

For sure man, i understand what you guys are saying, just trying to work out ways of keeping them in that temperature range i could keep the air conditioner on for the whole drying period but thats going to be a bit overboard. should i not possibly dry them in a box and add some ice cubes with a small fan ? might cause too much humidity though

Depends on yield.
Most professionals use ac and or humidifier among other funny robots, its up to you.. But cool air will be better than hot air, just check a thermometer inside a box..
You may have to choose between keeping it cool and keeping it less moist. But usually coolness drops humidity, you might be golden.
Get some snow and ice in a cooler blowing if you got a boxful or more, a small drawer or less, you gonna be ok np.
Darkness will help them retain too.

 

[DonTesla]

Parchment paper is something I've grown to love using. The trichomes just slide off of it when you're done.

Smart idea. Cut it to fit, cheap, un-shatterable, slidable under a screen, whatever you need.
Nice, man. Of course..

 

[hyroot]

I use raw parchment paper. Works better than anything for drying trichomes. Get a wine cooler fridge and place parchment / baking sheet in there to dry and then cure. Keep below 55 degrees and no humidity. Or have a very cold room with a dehum

 

[a senile fungus]

Depends on your end goal for your soil, if youre ready to plant, and plant preference I think.. Me I like to have a couple different recipes around..
You can save a tiny container in case you want to try a fungal tea later, and turn it in gently in as few turns as possible..unless you need to aerate, then use the opportunity to get in those corners. Good Bacteria can thrive in destroyed fungal networks too.

If you wanna keep this colony thriving you can sprinkle some rice or more meal in the bare parts/corners..or turn this one in build a new one. Usually light or mist will stunt them anyway..

So should I just sprinkle a bit of oatmeal on my fresh dirt when I pot up to encourage fungal growth?? Sounds promising...

I think I will turn this whole lot over and take this opportunity to really get in the corners and water the soil adequately then I'll add more oatmeal and leave it be for a while. I think I'll have better colonization with bits of oatmeal actually in the soil instead of just on top.

 

[Mohican]

Are you adding it whole or making a powder?

 

[a senile fungus]

Are you adding it whole or making a powder?

The pic above is from whole oatmeal, old fashioned Quaker Oats

 

[Pattahabi]

How did you like that Cascadian Frost? I ordered a pack but never got around to popping them because the Zazen I grew didn't impress me that much. Should I give em a go?

I'd give the cascadian a mediocre score. Smoke was decent, you could tell there were some good genetics in there somewhere. However, really slow vigor, and I mean really slow. Decent chunky buds, but both of the two plants I had threw a few nanners. On the Zazen, I popped three beans and they were culled before they ever hit the flower room.

Disappointing to say the least. I was hoping for really great things.

P-

 

[hyroot]

I'd give the cascadian a mediocre score. Smoke was decent, you could tell there were some good genetics in there somewhere. However, really slow vigor, and I mean really slow. Decent chunky buds, but both of the two plants I had threw a few nanners. On the Zazen, I popped three beans and they were culled before they ever hit the flower room.

Disappointing to say the least. I was hoping for really great things.

P-

I'll look in a little bit. I know Cootz and cann and all them were on the seeds depot forums. I was too until.it shut down...i don't know where they are at now. Headtreep is on instagram and goes by invocation_notillsoil. I'm meeting up with him at the cup this weekend.

 

[Mad Hamish]

For sure man, i understand what you guys are saying, just trying to work out ways of keeping them in that temperature range i could keep the air conditioner on for the whole drying period but thats going to be a bit overboard. should i not possibly dry them in a box and add some ice cubes with a small fan ? might cause too much humidity though

LOL... you are over thinking things a little. Certainly, terpenes evaporate. But you are going to have to be pretty silly to end with tasteless herb. A guy I know cures his weed till there is NO green, it looks like straw, people from the Knysna area will know exactly who I mean. Best. Tasting. Weed. EVER. His cure takes a few months. More of a concern is breaking down bitter chlorophyl than worrying about terps too much. Terps cant evaporate feom inside he bud all that easy. Think about it. From trim, yeah it is all gone soon and it smells like straw but bud we have some headroom. For drying in summer here, get some of those straw camping plates, the ones that hold paper plates. Arrange your bud loosely and cover with another plate. Seven to nine days drying, perfect time. As long as they dont dry in over 28 degrees taste will be fine, over that and your throat is going to hate you for it even after two weeks mellowing in the jar. Drying is easy, but CURING needs bit of an eye and a feel in summer. Burp twice a day at least and remove from jar for an hour when it feels wet again. Takes a week to ten days to get that good solid flakey but not powdery texture suitable for long term storage in a sealed container.

 

[Mad Hamish]

I'd give the cascadian a mediocre score. Smoke was decent, you could tell there were some good genetics in there somewhere. However, really slow vigor, and I mean really slow. Decent chunky buds, but both of the two plants I had threw a few nanners. On the Zazen, I popped three beans and they were culled before they ever hit the flower room.

Disappointing to say the least. I was hoping for really great things.

P-

Seconded on all counts. CF was like very good bush weed at most. My Zazen also didn't make it past solos before I gave the girls to a friend. He reckons it kicks ass. But then again he reckoms Greenhouse kicks ass.

 

[Mohican]

Left Blue Dream outside in the sun for six months. It was still sticky and smelled like Blueberries!

Made dry sift. I have not tried it yet.

 

[DonTesla]

Terpenes are volatile even at room temp.

That's why you can smell stinky weed from across the room as soon as the jar is opened.

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.. As long as they dont dry in over 28 degrees taste will be fine..
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Just to dispel any fog..

According to the curriculum at Oaksterdam University, 24*C is the evaporation temp for many of the 100 or so terpenes found in cannabis,..

An interesting note.. It's the terpenes much responsible for different effects; stoning, psychoactive and healing.

And they can counteract or act synergistically:

Limonene
shrinks tumours while boosting sexuality and focus / attention.

Pinene / Pulegone
boosts memory, stops a destructive protein.

Cineole
boosts circulation while relieving pain.

Linalool
meanwhile reduced mobility in rats studied by 75 % haha.

Borneol,
check this,
is the calming and psychedelic one, the third eye activator, my favourite..

 

[SouthernSoil*]

26 is hot buddy, yeah that will bake some aromatic organ-fixing terpenes into the air, but you will survive.
21 is the magic temp imo. Lower ok if mold not concern. Terpenes evap at high temps. Even medium high, bro

You can freeze dry but I haven't learned enough to help on the subject with any authority.

Porcelain is ok if paint doesn't come up off it when scraped with a razor, but dollar stores have them and that way you can collect the trichs that fall.

I used my tablet one time to see how much I was losing.
You do lose some primo trichs, more the more potent..so
Glass is nice, but I'd just get it for next time if its a hassle.

Its gets to 30 C in this room during the day : / i put the air con on to drop it to 28 sometimes below 28 but thats it, sorry about the stupid question earlier asking if they evap at 21c lol, too much on the mind bro, terpenes arent something that i want to lose though but its going to be hard trying to keep this bud at a low temp all the time. Ill try go get a glass plate tomorrow bro, and i was thinking of starting to chop these ladies tonight but i have no plan on how to dry them yet lol, i dried my outdoor a few years back in temperatures around 10-20c was potent indeed.

 

[SouthernSoil*]

I use raw parchment paper. Works better than anything for drying trichomes. Get a wine cooler fridge and place parchment / baking sheet in there to dry and then cure. Keep below 55 degrees and no humidity. Or have a very cold room with a dehum

So basically you mean a cooler bag or cooler box type thing man ? like this http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/1243320/13785684/0/1281164258/cooler_box_ice_box.jpg ? So ill have to drill holes possibly inside that though ?Ill go get that parchment paper aswell ! thank you for that

 

[SouthernSoil*]

LOL... you are over thinking things a little. Certainly, terpenes evaporate. But you are going to have to be pretty silly to end with tasteless herb. A guy I know cures his weed till there is NO green, it looks like straw, people from the Knysna area will know exactly who I mean. Best. Tasting. Weed. EVER. His cure takes a few months. More of a concern is breaking down bitter chlorophyl than worrying about terps too much. Terps cant evaporate feom inside he bud all that easy. Think about it. From trim, yeah it is all gone soon and it smells like straw but bud we have some headroom. For drying in summer here, get some of those straw camping plates, the ones that hold paper plates. Arrange your bud loosely and cover with another plate. Seven to nine days drying, perfect time. As long as they dont dry in over 28 degrees taste will be fine, over that and your throat is going to hate you for it even after two weeks mellowing in the jar. Drying is easy, but CURING needs bit of an eye and a feel in summer. Burp twice a day at least and remove from jar for an hour when it feels wet again. Takes a week to ten days to get that good solid flakey but not powdery texture suitable for long term storage in a sealed container.

Thank you for the message bro ! long time, haha i know what you mean about it looking like straw, i knew a guy aswell that cured his outdoor for over a year, way smoother than the freshly cured stuff i wont lie but then again my cupboard might be cooler but shit dude it hits like 31 c in this room its pathetic lol, aircon is pumping hard while everybody around me is running on candle power at the moment, i just need need a quick way of keeping a smaller box with the bud drying inside cool, i probably wont end up with alot of yield seeing as my pot size was a tad too small, will let you know how it goes bro ! Peace

 

[hyroot]

So basically you mean a cooler bag or cooler box type thing man ? like this http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/1243320/13785684/0/1281164258/cooler_box_ice_box.jpg ? So ill have to drill holes possibly inside that though ?Ill go get that parchment paper aswell ! thank you for that

no like this. A wine cooler fridge

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Danby-Dual-Zone-38-Bottle-Capacity-Wine-Cooler-DWC113BLSDB/203338057?N=5yc1vZc4fj

you can control temp and humidity. You want trichomes drying below 55 degrees with no humidity.

 

[st0wandgrow]

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Just to dispel any fog..

According to the curriculum at Oaksterdam University, 24*C is the evaporation temp for many of the 100 or so terpenes found in cannabis,..

An interesting note.. It's the terpenes much responsible for different effects; stoning, psychoactive and healing.

And they can counteract or act synergistically:

Limonene
shrinks tumours while boosting sexuality and focus / attention.

Pinene / Pulegone
boosts memory, stops a destructive protein.

Cineole
boosts circulation while relieving pain.

Linalool
meanwhile reduced mobility in rats studied by 75 % haha.

Borneol,
check this,
is the calming and psychedelic one, the third eye activator, my favourite..

Check this out....

http://theleafonline.com/?s=terpene+profile&_wpnonce=0267c6e4ac&_wp_http_referer=/?s=terpene+profiles&_wpnonce=0267c6e4ac&_wp_http_referer=%2F


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[Mad Hamish]

...(continue)...



Just to dispel any fog..

According to the curriculum at Oaksterdam University, 24*C is the evaporation temp for many of the 100 or so terpenes found in cannabis,..

An interesting note.. It's the terpenes much responsible for different effects; stoning, psychoactive and healing.

And they can counteract or act synergistically:

Limonene
shrinks tumours while boosting sexuality and focus / attention.

Pinene / Pulegone
boosts memory, stops a destructive protein.

Cineole
boosts circulation while relieving pain.

Linalool
meanwhile reduced mobility in rats studied by 75 % haha.

Borneol,
check this,
is the calming and psychedelic one, the third eye activator, my favourite..

When you live in Africa, the price of preserving terpenes perfectly in summer waaaaaaay outweighs the little bit of extra smell. Seriously suggesting we should keep temps that low is something we will merely laugh at. Under 26 degrees C in summer? Not even with over sized AC. So yeah, theoretically all you guys are saying is great, but practically speaking for me and my mate here, well, not a financial viability.