Recommendations for True Landrace Strains?

I'm looking for Landrace Strains with a preference towards Indica. Afghani, Mazarr, Ketma, etc.

Can anyone recommend any good, reliable, reputable breeders?

I'm not interested in any crosses at all, just straight landrace strains.

I've only really come across the landrace team, and some other questionably-trustworthy-websites.

Ace seeds
Cannabiogen
Underground seed collective
Tropical seed company
Real seed company
Hazeman

I second the search. Who has the goods?

A member here @Ailalelo seems to do great with breeding taskentis which is a 98% Indica originated in Uzbekistan also known as the original hashplant. He is very knowledgeable and could point you in the right direction of some beans.

Check out his journal https://www.rollitup.org/t/taskenti-from-cannabiogen-the-real-hashplant.978578/

What do you think a landrace has that a hybrid doesn't, genuinely interested.

I million to one people selling the seeds.

Good luck. Submit whatever you end up acquiring to be genome tested. You will probably learn it is a hybrid. Genotype is not phenotype, yada yada...

Everything, statistically, in the market is a hybrid, which is a good thing.

Good luck with recreating the last few centuries of line breeding to produce useful hybrids singlehandedly. Good fucking luck.

WinterSoldier89 said:

What do you think a landrace has that a hybrid doesn't, genuinely interested.

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That's a good question. Why would anybody look for landraces, while they are obviously worse in production, flavor and potency than modern hybrids, and they usually need more time to mature and are very unsuitable for indoors?

The only reason I grow sativa landraces (or old strains, I don't know if all of them are really landraces) is the effect. They are usually mild or weak, but the experience they provide can be a new one. Stimulating, schizophrenic, happy... or not.

By far, the best results I've got came from old hybrids coming from the tropics. Sativas mixed with indicas in the 70's or 80's that have evolved and have been selected in their environment to produce weed similar to the original sativa landraces but with a little "spice" from indica hashplants. That indica influence had a lot of effect in production of resin and strength of effect but not that much in the clarity of the effect. Not indica hashplant stone, but sativa happiness.

Taskenti is not a landrace, nor a sativa, so it is not weak at all, all the contrary, it is very strong. There are very nice properties, properties probably coming from hashplants from Uzbekistan in that strain that makes it very valuable for me and others.

I believe there are quite a lot of strains similar to what OP looks for, but I would ask first what is OP looking for in these herbs. I'd like to help.

Cheers

I have some pseudo-landrace African sativas I do not want, they are yours, OP, for the price of a DM address. We all have different goals and interests.

Some of the heirlooms from past were magic type highs. Few of them. That is why I chase them and the hybrids made from them. Had a little luck with some Panama Red and some Mexican lines.

Snowhigh seeds is another that has done me right. Have run ACE/Cannabiogen and USC, Tropical, Real seed co. Lots of heirlooms out there but the greatest of the past are hard to find or just gone.

Have had little luck finding real Acapulco Gold. Best so far was Chimera HIghland Mexican x Blueberry. Snow's AG was Guerrero Gold imo and quite good but not crazy like real AG. Bodhi AG was hay and also Guerrero Gold but crappy as hell.

C99 is easy to find and grow and delivers most of what the old sativa lines had to offer. FDM was my best so far and Peak has it too along with Joey Weed which had a decent pheno I grew. I do not ignore the recent hybrids as in the case of C99, it has around 20% thc and good soaring type high with easy growing. I took mine down in 45 days of flower. The Bodhi AG had less than 10% thc judging by the lack of potency.

Most of the old stuff was quite weak and not too tasty. I was there. As said, there were a few gems and it is a shame that many faded out of view. Lots of these old lines were grown outside in high altitude and/or equatorial places. Intense sun. Might not get the same effect from them in a tent or in Holland, Wyoming etc.

yesum said:

Some of the heirlooms from past were magic type highs. Few of them. That is why I chase them and the hybrids made from them. Had a little luck with some Panama Red and some Mexican lines.

Snowhigh seeds is another that has done me right. Have run ACE/Cannabiogen and USC, Tropical, Real seed co. Lots of heirlooms out there but the greatest of the past are hard to find or just gone.

Have had little luck finding real Acapulco Gold. Best so far was Chimera HIghland Mexican x Blueberry. Snow's AG was Guerrero Gold imo and quite good but not crazy like real AG. Bodhi AG was hay and also Guerrero Gold but crappy as hell.

C99 is easy to find and grow and delivers most of what the old sativa lines had to offer. FDM was my best so far and Peak has it too along with Joey Weed which had a decent pheno I grew. I do not ignore the recent hybrids as in the case of C99, it has around 20% thc and good soaring type high with easy growing. I took mine down in 45 days of flower. The Bodhi AG had less than 10% thc judging by the lack of potency.

Most of the old stuff was quite weak and not too tasty. I was there. As said, there were a few gems and it is a shame that many faded out of view. Lots of these old lines were grown outside in high altitude and/or equatorial places. Intense sun. Might not get the same effect from them in a tent or in Holland, Wyoming etc.

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Who has the best cindy 99? I thought she was clone only

Joint Monster said:

I'm looking for Landrace Strains with a preference towards Indica. Afghani, Mazarr, Ketma, etc.

Can anyone recommend any good, reliable, reputable breeders?

I'm not interested in any crosses at all, just straight landrace strains.

I've only really come across the landrace team, and some other questionably-trustworthy-websites.

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I agree with the list @Varulv mentioned. That's about as close as you can get. Ace stuff is pretty unique. I had the worst luck with cannabiogen. Never tried Tropical. The real seed company is pretty unique as well. I'm about to pop some Parvarti sometime in the next month or so. Good luck..

I like FDM C99 but Joey was good too. I have not tried the Peak so no idea there. The Bro Grimm C99 has gotten mixed reviews. They reworked the line and some feel it is not the same.
I have had trouble with Real Seed seeds not germinating. I am getting free replacements so no complaining. Just my experience.

The real seed company sells seeds from source if its a reproduction in another country they say so tbh there the only company selling true landrace beans

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The real seed company sells seeds from source if its a reproduction in another country they say so tbh there the only company selling true landrace beans

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You mean they are the only company selling true landrace seeds? I don't think so, even when I didn't grow any of they gear. I've grown several authentic landraces from ACE and CBG, for example, but most of what they sell are not landraces. Most of what is being sold as landraces are not landraces, and once you're a little experience you can point the differences.

Cheers

Durban Poison is pretty nice smoke, and very smelly. If you ever run across the true Shiva (not a cross) thats seriously awesome indica, best I ever had.

Ailalelo said:

You mean they are the only company selling true landrace seeds? I don't think so, even when I didn't grow any of they gear. I've grown several authentic landraces from ACE and CBG, for example, but most of what they sell are not landraces. Most of what is being sold as landraces are not landraces, and once you're a little experience you can point the differences.

Cheers

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Listen to the pot cast where they interview the real seed company. This stuff is probably the most untouched you can get...even if you flew yourself to a place and tried to get them yourself. If you say these aren’t landrace then none exist anymore (which is actually probably somewhat true). It’s a wonderful interview.

Coalcat said:

Listen to the pot cast where they interview the real seed company. This stuff is probably the most untouched you can get...even if you flew yourself to a place and tried to get them yourself. If you say these aren’t landrace then none exist anymore (which is actually probably somewhat true). It’s a wonderful interview.

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What I say is that many of the seeds sold as landraces are not, but there are also quite a lot that look like the real thing. I guess a genetic analysis would provide the definitive diagnosis. I think we should make our opinion on every strain based in our experience, and I can speak only of these seeds I've already grown.

I don't know about this seedbank you say, but even while they sell real strains from exotic places (I suppose what they claim is true) it is very believable that not all of their strains are technically landraces. But they could still be nice exotic 100% sativas and indicas that may satisfy more than a client, or cultivars that have been hybridized decades ago and have started to "evolve back" to what they were. I've found very nice herbs like that, in fact I prefer them before real real landraces. The real thing, specifically tropical sativas, is a hell to grow.

I'll have a look to that pot cast you say; where can I find it? Thanks

Cheers

ToneOZ said:

Who has the best cindy 99? I thought she was clone only

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I got great plants from the Female Seeds version of C99. I grew it for a few years, and only replaced it with a cross that I did using it. Great high, fast for a sativa(65ish days to be proper), and a funky fermented fruit flavor that I and others loved. I crossed it to a Sinmint Cookies Male, and got an couple excellent hybrids of the parents that I ran for about 4 years till I moved this year.

Duke Diamond(one half of Bros. Grimm) has been releasing some C99 crosses I want to run https://www.seedsherenow.com/breeders/duke-diamonds-vault/ . I recently also got my hands on a few of the old stock Bros. Grimm Cinderella 99 beans that I'm excited to pop once I'm up and running a room again.

ToneOZ said:

Who has the best cindy 99? I thought she was clone only

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The Rev at Kingdom Organic Seeds. His Deep Chunk is also the best. Joey Weed's are good too. C99 has never been clone only. Frost Bros had a couple of different Cindy f4 lines (bred in different directions) a few years back that were good, but I don't know if they're even around anymore as a company.