Real GG#4???

Odin*

Odin*

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HydroRed said:
@ 60 days the buzz gets me super chill and lazy. I can f#ck up a bag of Fritos too after smoking haha
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That's the one. Cat piss fuel, KO punch. I'm not a "snacker", but I fuckin' love me some Frito's.

I need a bag now.
Crippykeeper said:
By cat piss smell do you mean ammonia like smell? View attachment 3865731View attachment 3865736
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"Cat Piss" as in nasty, pungent, "why is there fucking cat piss on my pillow!", Cat Piss. Strong fuel smell as well.
 
HydroRed

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a senile fungus said:
0-10, would you consider glue to be a yielder? I'd say 7 or 8 maybe... I've gotten over a lb per plant on her, and so has a buddy of mine. But, another friend is really having trouble getting any serious yields on her.

What growing technique/type do you think facilitates the best production from this strain? I've had great success with long veg times and scrog with tons of support. I've seen others do great with SOG and no veg clones.

Just curious to see what y'all think.
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My first run wasn't very good and was kinda a spur of the moment thing but mistakes were made on my part by not supplying enough N in veg. She stalled out by like week 6 and went yellow on me and yield was almost embarrasing. My second run was pretty good all around,certainly the increase in size and weight. I went into this second grow knowing what she needed now and the results were night and day. Keep in mind, this is all clones from the same momma. I had actually made a comment early in this thread about this seeming like a "popcorn bud" strain because my first grow was so poor. I would definitely reconsider that comment after my second run with it. She can be a picky girl, but she has the potential to give back very nicely. I got like 9 zips of all top cola bud from 5 plants in a 3x4 ish area under 400W cob led light. Not the most grand numbers, but I didn't count any bottom bush weight or do any topping on 3 of the 5 plants. I basically took 8" rooted clones and tossed em under 12/12 lighting. I dont personally think I'd run this in a SOG as leggy and lankey as she can get. I get about 3x stretch out of mine from the time they go 12/12 to finish. My opinion with the glue is out of 0-10 being best, I'd give it a 7 on yield alone. Overall it is a 9 to me which is "keeper worthy" with a momma.


Crippykeeper said:
By cat piss smell do you mean ammonia like smell? I'm not getting that. It's hard to describe I'm gonna roll another one up to get a better grasp on her smell and flavor profile all in the name of science.
One thing I did notice she's took longer to dry than other strains I've grown. Here's a pick of dry bud View attachment 3865731View attachment 3865736
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No, I wouldn't say ammonia, but more of a pungent sour bitter smell I associate with cat piss. Mix that with the strong fuel smell makes for one stinky nugget. Your buds look good and frosty too.
 
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Crippykeeper

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HydroRed said:
My first run wasn't very good and was kinda a spur of the moment thing but mistakes were made on my part by not supplying enough N in veg. She stalled out by like week 6 and went yellow on me and yield was almost embarrasing. My second run was pretty good all around,certainly the increase in size and weight. I went into this second grow knowing what she needed now and the results were night and day. Keep in mind, this is all clones from the same momma. I had actually made a comment early in this thread about this seeming like a "popcorn bud" strain because my first grow was so poor. I would definitely reconsider that comment after my second run with it. She can be a picky girl, but she has the potential to give back very nicely. I got like 9 zips of all top cola bud from 5 plants in a 3x4 ish area under 400W cob led light. Not the most grand numbers, but I didn't count any bottom bush weight or do any topping on 3 of the 5 plants. I basically took 8" rooted clones and tossed em under 12/12 lighting. I dont personally think I'd run this in a SOG as leggy and lankey as she can get. I get about 3x stretch out of mine from the time they go 12/12 to finish. My opinion with the glue is out of 0-10 being best, I'd give it a 7 on yield alone. Overall it is a 9 to me which is "keeper worthy" with a momma.



No, I wouldn't say ammonia, but more of a pungent sour bitter smell I associate with cat piss. Mix that with the strong fuel smell makes for one stinky nugget. Your buds look good and frosty too.
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Okay it does have and odd pungent smell that I couldn't recognized

Thank you
 
Coloradoclear

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HydroRed said:
I can't get these GG clones to root for the life of me? I pulled 7 and NONE of them were rooted @ 9 days. Cut 3 more to err on the side of caution & also pulled 2 clones from a kosher kush, and here it is day 15 since initial cuts and I have no roots on the GG#4's. The Kosher Kush clones I cut have only been in there for a total of 6 days and I have roots exploding out of the bottom?

Are these GG#4 that hard to clone? WTF
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I just cloned some GG and am noticing it is slowest to root compared to my Vanilla Kush (1 week) and my purple headband (11 days). I am using the 5 gallon diy aero cloner (W/heater) with a little bit of clonex.
 
HydroRed

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Coloradoclear said:
I just cloned some GG and am noticing it is slowest to root compared to my Vanilla Kush (1 week) and my purple headband (11 days). I am using the 5 gallon diy aero cloner (W/heater) with a little bit of clonex.
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I've always had good results with the Rapid Rooter plugs, but the glue just didn't want to root for me in them. As soon as I defaulted back to my original cloning methods (DIY bubble cloner) they root pretty good. I still wouldn't venture to say that they are "fast" for me, but they root now. My last run with it, I believe I hit the 2 week mark to get good roots for transplant under the flower lights. Many swear by how easily she throws roots....I haven't been able to knock down my times with it yet but I'm still figuring her out.
 
PerroVerde

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Coloradoclear said:
18 days, two others rooted in 14 days, using 5 gallon bucket, diy, aerocloner. Got ten sprayer nosles in PVC pipe with aquarium heater and fountain pump.
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I was going to chime in about cloning and water temps till I saw your aquarium heater added. This time of year it's easy to stall out some clones with cooler water temps in your bubble and areo cloners... :)
 
HydroRed

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Just wanted to document my comparison of rooting times between the GG and other strains.
The top 3 in the picture are Chocolate Skunk and the bottom 3 are the GG#4. You can see that there are a few days worth of growth difference between them. ALL clones were cut from their mommas minutes apart from each other exactly 10 days ago. I'm right on par for my "normal" 14 day root time with the GG#4. I could transplant the Chocolate Skunk right now if I wanted to....probably could have yesterday. I have to say again that I cant get under the 14 day mark for transplant with the Glue. You can practically set your watch to it and I cant get it to root any faster. I'm happy to have her though.

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Odin*

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@HydroRed unless there is a searious issue with your cut, I believe that you will eventually shorten the time to root for her. The healthier she gets, the faster she'll root. GG4 is one of my fastest to root, so quick that I've been afraid to throw her in an aero for fear that they'll grow out of control.

Pretty much everything I have (GG4, "Mystery", M1-10, Gelato, GSC Thin Mint, OG Hybrid, OGHxGG4, GG4xMystery, DGOG, Sour Power OG, Purple Kush, Sour Sunset, Tre Stardawg 2.0, PKxMystery, etc.) is very fast to root (days). The only strains I have that are slower (a day, or two at most), and only slightly less vigorous, are the OG's and HPK.

None of the above that were acquired clones rooted, nor grew, with any vigor until "nursed back to health.
 
HydroRed

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Odin* said:
@HydroRed unless there is a searious issue with your cut, I believe that you will eventually shorten the time to root for her. The healthier she gets, the faster she'll root. GG4 is one of my fastest to root, so quick that I've been afraid to throw her in an aero for fear that they'll grow out of control.

Pretty much everything I have (GG4, "Mystery", M1-10, Gelato, GSC Thin Mint, OG Hybrid, OGHxGG4, GG4xMystery, DGOG, Sour Power OG, Purple Kush, Sour Sunset, Tre Stardawg 2.0, PKxMystery, etc.) is very fast to root (days). The only strains I have that are slower (a day, or two at most), and only slightly less vigorous, are the OG's and HPK.

None of the above that were acquired clones rooted, nor grew, with any vigor until "nursed back to health.
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I don't want to come across like I'm complaining, just I've been told by more than one that it was a real fast rooter for them like you mention. I can live with 14 day turnarounds on it though.
Now that I actually have some true side by side comparison its a bit more obvious I guess that she just doesn't move as fast for me as most strains do. I would think I'd be past the "getting" healthy part with her since I'm on my 2 gen momma and shes really lush and healthy compared to how viney and leggy she used to be when I got her. After the last year, Im glad this bitch even roots for me lmao
 
Odin*

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@HydroRed I spent 2 years (maybe a little longer) nursing a strain back to health, did not bloom it through all that time. I only put forth the effort that I did because I had already run the strain from the very same mother (much older at the time I received the cuts). This was HPK. Also, my GSC (Thin) was so shit that I eliminated it (or so I thought, long story). Over the course of last year she became as vigorous as any other in my stable, 4x her initial yield per plant as well.
 
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